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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, August 13, 2018 10:14 PM

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I have no idea why but I love oversized cars,

Then you would want one of these:

http://mrr.trains.com/news-reviews/staff-reviews/2012/09/bachmann-ho-schnabel-car

I mean, if you are going to shoot for oversized, you may as well go for something that actually existed instead of dreaming up foobie stuff.

Just sayin' 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, August 13, 2018 8:48 PM

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Do you mean the 60 foot flat cars similar to the Trailer Train flats Intermountain made as kits as well as ready to run? I'm not sure that I would recommend them. I have several of the kits, and every one of them has a sag in the middle of the frame.

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I did not know about that problem with this kit. I have never assembled one myself. I have assembled many other Intermountain kits, and they have all been great.

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Thanks for the information.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, August 13, 2018 8:44 PM

I have no idea why but I love oversized cars, guess the KCS super gondolas kitbash stems from that, and the club has regular flats but a heavy duty flat would be something different.

I'd probably paint it in NWP SWP colors, I haven't done the KCS gon yet a guy at the club wants to tinker with it to see if he can get it to run.

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Posted by maxman on Monday, August 13, 2018 8:42 PM

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If you want to get something of yours runnning on the cub layout, I think it makes more sense to build a box-stock 60 foot Intermountain flat car and spend your creative effort on the custom load.

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The Intermountain car will run well, and it is very nicely detailed. You will learn a lot from building it, and it fits in the club era.

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Do you mean the 60 foot flat cars similar to the Trailer Train flats Intermountain made as kits as well as ready to run?  I'm not sure that I would recommend them.  I have several of the kits, and every one of them has a sag in the middle of the frame.  And I was looking at some ready builts at a train show last weekend and every one of them had the same sag.  And I don't know how to get rid of the sag.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, August 13, 2018 8:08 PM

If you want to get something of yours runnning on the cub layout, I think it makes more sense to build a box-stock 60 foot Intermountain flat car and spend your creative effort on the custom load.

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The Intermountain car will run well, and it is very nicely detailed. You will learn a lot from building it, and it fits in the club era.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, August 13, 2018 7:41 PM

Not perse, my club operates in the 70s-80s so I was planning to put the car into interchange service on the club layout.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, August 13, 2018 6:37 PM

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I think the Walthers is better because it's more modern.

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I thought your railroad was set in the transition era. Have you changed this?

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Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, August 13, 2018 5:58 PM

It looks like I'm going to buy either an old Athearn Heavy Duty Flat or buy a undecorated Walthers Depressed flat, I think the Walthers is better because it's more modern.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Saturday, August 11, 2018 8:09 PM

Here's a load!

File down the barbs at the ends and done!

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Posted by maxman on Saturday, August 11, 2018 4:04 PM

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The piece of machinery, tarp, and pallette are all one solid hunk of resin. Chooch makes some amazing stuff, but the factory painting is terrible.

Thanks for the info.  I was hoping that you had found a realistic way to make the tarps yourself.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, August 11, 2018 1:59 PM

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How did you make the tarp?

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The piece of machinery, tarp, and pallette are all one solid hunk of resin. Chooch makes some amazing stuff, but the factory painting is terrible.

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I painted the tarp by starting with a medium gray. Then I drybrushed the high points white, I gave it a wash of Citadel Nuln Oil, and followed that with a thinned coat of Polly-S green.

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The drybrushing white and washcoat with Nuln Oil emphasizes the highpoints and shadows on the tarp. This creates artificial light reflections and brings out the folds and tight points in the tarp casting.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, August 11, 2018 1:18 PM

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Here's the load I was looking at.

 

Howcum you started a second thread, using the photo above?  You might want to see if a Moderator can merge the two, which would keep the replies together, too.

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Posted by maxman on Saturday, August 11, 2018 1:08 PM

 "The load is a repainted Chooch casting. The original color was an awful bright silver."

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Load is very nice.

 

How did you make the tarp?

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, August 11, 2018 12:46 PM

trwroute
Kevin, your flat looks great!

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Thanks Chuck. I appreciate the compliment.

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The load is a repainted Chooch casting. The original color was an awful bright silver.

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, August 11, 2018 9:40 AM

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I think I'm going to cut that if I can find it and stretch it a little to look more like the other load.

 

 

That was my thought, too, when I saw the photo.

As much as it seems like an easy thing to do, I've never found any pre-cast plastic "bits" that could glue up into a nice HO flat car load.  No reason not to try, though. It's good for the little grey thing inside our heads.

 

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Posted by trwroute on Friday, August 10, 2018 10:48 PM

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Kevin, your flat looks great!

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Posted by NWP SWP on Friday, August 10, 2018 10:14 PM

I think I'm going to cut that if I can find it and stretch it a little to look more like the other load.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Friday, August 10, 2018 9:56 PM

Here's the load I was looking at.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, August 10, 2018 9:08 PM

maxman
Yes, but that is without trucks, couplers, and weight.

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I always use Kadee trucks & couplers, and add my own weights, so for my model projects these Central Valley flats are perfect.

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I have eight of them painted for the STRATTON & GILLETTE. They build into a fine model with plenty of space to hide weight if you want it empty or with a small load.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, August 10, 2018 6:49 PM

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Yes, but that is without trucks, couplers, and weight.

Oh, well, yes that's true. I take it for granted since I have many containers full of those materials. If one were to buy them specifically for this car the cost would go up exponentially.

 

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Posted by maxman on Friday, August 10, 2018 4:57 PM

gmpullman
https://www.shop.cvmw.com/NP-Built-Flat-Car-Kit-1003.htm I have found these kits for around $10. builds two cars! What a bargain.

Yes, but that is without trucks, couplers, and weight.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, August 10, 2018 4:25 PM

I have a fondness for flat cars and interesting loads.

 MESTA_forge2 by Edmund, on Flickr

 PRR_Flat_load by Edmund, on Flickr

 

 

One of my favorite depressed-center cars, PRR's Queen Mary:

 PRR_QueenMary by Edmund, on Flickr

Sure wish I could get one in HO. Brass models often sell for $500 and up!

I'm working on a few resin PRR F22 flat cars for a 16" Naval gun load... someday.

http://www.richyodermodels.com/rym_fc_co_f22.htm

 Central Valley makes a pretty neat HD 41' flat car of Northern Pacific design.

https://www.shop.cvmw.com/NP-Built-Flat-Car-Kit-1003.htm

I have found these kits for around $10. builds two cars! What a bargain. 

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Posted by csxns on Friday, August 10, 2018 2:34 PM

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Walthers depressed center four truck heavy duty flat car and building a load for it.

That load looks like its on a flat deck not a depressed deck Walthers makes that heavy duty flat car also.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, August 10, 2018 1:38 PM

Have you finished and painted the first gondola yet?

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I would love to see an update on that in WPF this week. Surely you have a "rattle can" of something around there. Then you can use it to test your theory of thick rattle can paint covering your mistakes and see if you like the results.

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Then do some decal work on it. Don't worry if you have the correct decals, just use semething that you have to learn some skills. After all, it is only a test model.

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I really would love to see the results in WPF... can you do it?

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Heavy duty flat car load
Posted by NWP SWP on Friday, August 10, 2018 12:22 PM

OK so I'm trying to start a interim project till I have the funds to do another KCS super gondola, so I decided to go after a Walthers depressed center four truck heavy duty flat car and building a load for it.

My current plan is to use the heat sink off an rc nitro engine as the base for the load.

I'm going for this sorta load.

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