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dio sol substitute/ floquil thinner

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Posted by GARY PERSONS on Saturday, July 28, 2018 11:12 AM

How can you tell the differance between old and new Floquil? When I got back inot model railroading a couple of years ago and found out that Floquil had been dicsontinued, I started buying it off of eBay. I have no idea how old this paint is? Is ther something on the label that will tell me how old it is and when did the make the transistion?

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:33 PM

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Way off topic, and apologies to the O.P., but Frank, I love your Ford, always makes me think of my late father.  Me & my Dad, circa 1953, and the S.P. mainline is just the other side of the background hill.  

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Thanks Peter........the Ford in the photo, looks like a 51, mine is a 49. Back then Ford kept the same body style for 3yr. periods, just changed trim and details around. 52 to 54 looks like My 54 in the photo: My Dad had a 47,50 and 53, then went to Buick in 57.

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Posted by Mark R. on Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:42 PM

Depends on how old the Floquil is. Early Floquil was a lacquer based paint (you could almost glue plastic with it, it was so hot) and later Floquil was enamel. I've always thinned both versions with regular hardware store brand lacquer thinners.

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Posted by HO-Velo on Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:29 PM

Way off topic, and apologies to the O.P., but Frank, I love your Ford, always makes me think of my late father.  Me & my Dad, circa 1953, and the S.P. mainline is just the other side of the background hill.  

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, July 24, 2018 3:44 PM

Use the thinner that was made for the Floquil remaining paints by Tester's. I use it.....along with General Purpose Automotive lacquer thinner.......that is used for painting in 65/75 degree low humidity temps. If Your having problems with fast evaporation, you need to use a reducer/thinner for your temp area. The link for the Tester's thinner:

https://www.hobbylinc.com/testors-airbrush-thinner-1:2-pint-hobby-and-model-enamel-paint-8824

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Posted by drgwcs on Monday, July 23, 2018 6:39 AM

Yea but the federal railway administration (wife) prefers the SUV in the present green. (maybe I could apply Pullman decalsHmm)

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Posted by Uncle_Bob on Sunday, July 22, 2018 10:21 PM

Try automotive lacquer thinner.  I use PPG when I have to spray lacquers, but other brands are available at automotive paint stores.  (You can also get really fine sandpaper and high-quality body putty there, too.)

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Posted by drgwcs on Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:14 PM

To be honest that is way more than I need......Big Smile I'll try the Testors universal thinner- At one time Testors made a laquer thinner- wonder how that would work. I'll check our Hobby Lobby for the universal thinner. I am about an hour and a half from a regular hobby shop here in Southern VA. Wonder how much I could paint with five gallons of floquil- picturing the SUV in Grande Gold...........Whistling

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, July 22, 2018 2:49 PM

I see it in a 5 gal can.  OP can make a lot of diosol with that.  Big Smile

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Posted by maxman on Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:06 PM

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Toluene may be hard to source outside of chemical company

Sherwin-Williams shows it on their website, so I would presume it is readily available.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, July 22, 2018 12:26 PM

Toluene may be hard to source outside of chemical company or a University Organic Chemistry professor. 

You can count on Howard or Wayne on good advice about painting. 

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Posted by 7j43k on Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:38 AM

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7j43k

You can recreate the Dio Sol:

 

By volume

38% toluene

41% xylene

21% Naptha 100 (from Sherwin Williams)

 

Ed

 

Ed, what quantities can those be purchased in?

 

 

I've not made the stuff.  I'm only reporting what was said on the Steam Freight Car List.

I have bought xylene, though, in gallon cans.  I imagine that's how all the above can be bought.

 

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Posted by BRVRR on Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:16 AM

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I use Testors Universal Thinner. It comes in metal pint size containers for less than $10.00 at HobbyTown USA

I use the Testors Universal Thinner too. I get it at a LHS.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:46 PM

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I've used ordinary lacquer thinner with Floquil paints for almost 40 years.

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Yes, but make sure it is not the "fast evaporating" type of lacquer thinner. I think "ordinary" is the key word here.

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I had a disaster when I thinned some paints with the fast evaporating type of lacquer thinner.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:20 PM

I've used ordinary lacquer thinner with Floquil paints for almost 40 years.  Even the most recent bastardised version of lacquer thinner works well, despite now being  useless as a solvent-type cement for styrene.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, July 21, 2018 10:49 PM

I use Testors Universal Thinner. It comes in metal pint size containers for less than $10.00 at HobbyTown USA.

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Posted by Southgate on Saturday, July 21, 2018 8:57 PM

[quote user="7j43k"]

You can recreate the Dio Sol:

 

By volume

38% toluene

41% xylene

21% Naptha 100 (from Sherwin Williams)

 

Ed

 

[/quote

Ed, what quantities can those be purchased in?

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Posted by drgwcs on Saturday, July 21, 2018 8:41 PM

Thanks for the ideas. I wondered if the Scalecoat might work that sounds like the best solution. Jim

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Posted by Howard Zane on Saturday, July 21, 2018 3:11 PM

I've been using both Scalecoat 1 & 2 thinner with Floquil....no problems at all and no gumming up airbrush.

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:49 PM

You can recreate the Dio Sol:

 

By volume

38% toluene

41% xylene

21% Naptha 100 (from Sherwin Williams)

 

Ed

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dio sol substitute/ floquil thinner
Posted by drgwcs on Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:18 PM

Went to an estate sale today and got a big box of Testors paints for a buck. In it were several Floquil bottles. They are at that stage where they are still usable but need to be thinned. My stash of Dio Sol is long gone since they went out. Any ideas on thinners that I could use?

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