Who Made This - Manufactured or Kit Bashed?

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DSchmitt

It's not the FrontRange car

Now that a link was posted to the kit information, that absolutely IS the Front Range kit.  It's even the very same road number and matches the lettering arrangement.  Whoever built the kit installed the doors backwards and modified the safety appliances, which is easy to do using the kit parts.  A tack board was mounted on the plug door. 

Look at the image of RI 27443 on the top of this page http://hoseeker.org/frontrange/FrontRangeCatalog1988pg05.jpg .

 

[dknelson]

First, I wonder if it is a kitbash.  The plug door looks original but the sliding door looks more added on.

Second, the shallowness to some of the detail (or some would say, the lack of the typical out of scale exaggeration of the detail) reminds me of LBF of Oregon and some of their offerings.  LBF was part of a related group of model manufacturers who used same or similar tooling and shared notions of such details, with the common involvement of a guy named Fred Becker.   A bit of history is here: 

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/165139.aspx

My hunch is a kitbash using LBF/Becker derived tooling.  The layout builder clearly has the skills for such a kitbash.  I also liked the low horizon on his backdrop.

Dave Nelson

[j. c.]

maxman

 

 

j. c.

found a immage of the roundhouse kit on the bay

 

 

Thanks, but that car is 50' and too modern.

Edit:  Went back and took another look.  Maybe the car is 50'; but it is too modern.

 

 

sorry went by door's and cast on ladders , with my lousy internet access i diden't view the video. went back and couldent find any 40 ft with that configuration. at least in the major players.

[maxman]

DSchmitt

It's not the FrontRange car

RI2744 by Donald Schmitt, on Flickr

 

Ok, then it is a???.  The Front Range car looked mighty close.  But if you have another idea.....,

[DSchmitt]

It's not the FrontRange car

RI2744 by Donald Schmitt, on Flickr

[maxman]

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I suspect that car was assembled from a Front Range kit. From the view at 26:34 https://youtu.be/J4fJB13AY5I?t=1594 it appears to me to have separate grabs and steps that closely resemble Front Range parts. The plug and sliding doors may also be installed backwards from their intended positions, unless there was a specific prototype that used this arrangement.

I think you might be right.  Found the following diagram on the HOSeeker site:

Looks like doors have been swapped.

 

Thanks!

Edit:  Oh, poo!  To see the picture you have to:

Go to:

http://hoseeker.org/

Click where it says Literature on the left side.  When all the different manufacturers pop up, click on Front Range.  You'll get another picture with manufacturers, including Front Range.  Click there.

Open the upper menu box where it says Front Range Information.  There are several 40' boxcar choices.  Select the 4th one down.  I think it is this car with the doors swapped.

[maxman]

j. c.

found a immage of the roundhouse kit on the bay

Thanks, but that car is 50' and too modern.

Edit:  Went back and took another look.  Maybe the car is 50'; but it is too modern.

[j. c.]

found a immage of the roundhouse kit on the bay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Roundhouse-HO-scale-1932-50-Combination-Door-Box-Seaboard-RR/202356725479?hash=item2f1d6696e7:g:QZoAAOSwHPlWeG9A 

[wp8thsub]

I suspect that car was assembled from a Front Range kit. From the view at 26:34 https://youtu.be/J4fJB13AY5I?t=1594 it appears to me to have separate grabs and steps that closely resemble Front Range parts.  The plug and sliding doors may also be installed backwards from their intended positions, unless there was a specific prototype that used this arrangement.

[j. c.]

roundhouse had one but don't know if it was offered in  RI paint, here is a proto one in santa fe www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf049434d12.jpg 

[G Paine]

The Rock Island is one that I have seen before. There were prototype cars that were produced with a sliding and plug door. Maybe modeled by Athearn???

[maxman]

Thanks, Tom.  Can't count.  Made the change to 12.  No, didn't ask.  I don't have the password or whatever to access that site.

[tstage]

It's actually the 12th car behind the ABBA set and two behind the Burlington gondola.  It's an unusual box car - that's for sure.

Did you try posting your query directly on the YouTube site?

Tom

[maxman]

In the following video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4fJB13AY5I&t=128s, there is a 40' boxcar with a plug door and a sliding door.  It has no roofwalk, and has cast on ladders and grabs.  It is the RI car about 12 cars behind the trailing loco.

Would anyone know if this car was manufactured by one of the usual suspects, or do you think it is a kit bash of an otherwise common car?

Thanks

Maxman