riogrande5761 "you guys" have a lot more paticience than I do, after months of wrangling and all the advise just bouncing off the brick wall I'm surprised folks aren't seeing the trend and backing off. This kid needs professional help if any real progress is going to be made. Patience is not the solution, that much is crystal clear by now. Steven has been given sound advise over and over and over. Now everyone needs to just stop feeding the dysfunctional side and let him impliment what has been recommened already umpteen times. I understand it is tempting to keep on trying, but most of you know the definition of insanity by now: doing the same thing over and over and over, and expecting a different result. I think we are past the insanity stage now. Resist the schartz!
"you guys" have a lot more paticience than I do, after months of wrangling and all the advise just bouncing off the brick wall I'm surprised folks aren't seeing the trend and backing off. This kid needs professional help if any real progress is going to be made. Patience is not the solution, that much is crystal clear by now.
Steven has been given sound advise over and over and over. Now everyone needs to just stop feeding the dysfunctional side and let him impliment what has been recommened already umpteen times.
I understand it is tempting to keep on trying, but most of you know the definition of insanity by now: doing the same thing over and over and over, and expecting a different result. I think we are past the insanity stage now. Resist the schartz!
UNCLEBUTCH Gee when I said that ; I got scolded
That's why I said it was politically incorrect to say it. But it is clear after this long and this much "trying" that there is no logic or no sense in endlessly continuing to flog a dead horse, as they say.
What is the caring, or loving thing to do? It seems we should take the "tough love" approach now and ask Steven to go and work on the sound advice ideas givien.
If we keep going round and round and round, at this point we are only "enabling" the dysfunction and no longer helping. It's the old paralysis of analysis which has firmly set in.
Best thing is to all back off and stop talking each other to death. This will be a healthy thing is my feeling.
Rio Grande. The Action Road - Focus 1977-1983
It is an interesting viewpoint being expressed here. As a minor, it raises a legitimate question about adult supervision. I wonder if his parents are aware and approve of this use of the Internet by their son. I am not trying to be judgmental, but there are a lot of issues at work here. Just saying.
Rich
Alton Junction
richhotrain It is an interesting viewpoint being expressed here. As a minor, it raises a legitimate question about adult supervision. I wonder if his parents are aware and approve of this use of the Internet by their son. I am not trying to be judgmental, but there are a lot of issues at work here. Just saying. Rich
That precise thought hasn't been lost on me.
On a similar vein, a group of investors is pressuring Apple to create apps that help parents monitor their children's usage of their smart phones. There was a researcher being interviewed on NPR this morning on the way into work who hesitated to call it an "addiciton", at least in the classic drug related definition, but he did make it clear than youngsters are unable to limit their screen time and there were a number of detrimental effects listed.
My wife looks after ADHD kids as old as 14 and is convinced too much time on the computer is creating much of their behavioral dysfunctions and cutting back the time a lot would likely reduce the symptoms. It might even reduce it enough that they could come off their medications.
Getting back to the Apple news item, the researcher did think that tools need to be implimented to help reduce too much screen time on youngsters, at least until they are old enough to limit it on their own. At that last part I had to laugh, because the report seemed to be about young children, but even as they get up to 8, 10, 14, and older, do they really have the discipline to moderate their computer or smart phone time to have a healthy balance in life? I doubt that based on my casual observations over the past 10-15 years. The TV used to be the "electronic baby sitter of choice - then the computer, and now the smart phone - which is the worst because it goes every where so they are on it more than ever. Pretty bad.
In the end, parents are repsonsible for their children until they are out of the nest, and obviously many aren't doing it. I know a familiy with two Phd pychologists parents and 5 kids, at least 3 of them are diagnosed ADHD, and they are so busy working long hours and chasing the dream, and too close to the problems that exist, that they aren't making the logical but hard choices to force those children to have a healthy balance in life. They are simply too tired when they get home to tackle it.
I saw a mother with a 3 year old in a cart in the grocery store - what I saw is getting all two common. The 3 year old was busy with the electronic baby sitter (the smart phone) playing a game while mom shopped. The trend is starting earlier and earlier and I suspect the kid will be an "electronic crack" "addict" for the next 28 - umpteen years. Parents are enablers - and I fear we have met the enemy and the enemy is ourselves.
A family who has two 5 year old fraternal twins which my wife occasionally looks after. The mother works for Microsoft and is a smart person. The twins are reportedly begging her for a video game system (I don't know which and doesn't matter). My wife told her about her experience with her son, also addicted for many years, and advised the mom to "don't do it! and not give in. The mother knows better but lamented that she couldn't see how she could resist. And so it goes. The future doesn't look so bright right now with that pervasive trend now well entrenched. That is the state of humity. It's like something out of one of those futuristic dystopian stories I used to read as a teenager and now we are wittnessing it first hand. Kind of freaky and we seem largly helpless to resist the clutches of electrincs which now "own" us.
My smart phone died when we moved on Nov 22. It didn't get around to replacing it for about 3 weeks. Can anyone imaging going without a smart phone for that long? I did, and I wasn't all that distressed about it, which was a bit reassuring to me that I wasn't helpless addicted. It was kind of refreshing in a way.
riogrande5761What is the caring, or loving thing to do? It seems we should take the "tough love" approach now and ask Steven to go and work on the sound advice ideas givien.
riogrande,
If you read back through the thread you should see that some of us have actually been trying to take that approach with Steven - at least from pg. 2 on. Unfortunately, Steven continues to go off on his rabbit trails, or hear only what he wants to hear.
As I told someone else recently, I'd liken it to being a hopeless romantic: Plenty of imaginary "girlfriends" or "brides" but unable to commit or say "I do" to any of them.
Tom
https://tstage9.wixsite.com/nyc-modeling
Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
tstage riogrande5761 What is the caring, or loving thing to do? It seems we should take the "tough love" approach now and ask Steven to go and work on the sound advice ideas givien. riogrande, If you read back through the thread you should see that some of us have actually been trying to take that approach with Steven - at least from pg. 2 on. Unfortunately, Steven continues to go off on his rabbit trails, or hear only what he wants to hear. As I told someone else recently, I'd liken it to being a hopeless romantic: Plenty of imaginary "girlfriends" or "brides" but unable to commit or say "I do" to any of them. Tom
riogrande5761 What is the caring, or loving thing to do? It seems we should take the "tough love" approach now and ask Steven to go and work on the sound advice ideas givien.
Tom, I did notice fewer people were responding in the more recent parts of the topic which is good.
Now if we can get the rest to realize that continuing to try to "help", at this point, may actually be more of a hinderence to our young friend. As long as one or two are responding with advice, my feeling it will continue to perpetuate the paralysis of analysis. We've seen it before but it's most extreme in this case.
Ultimately people have to be willing to help themself too, and hopefully for Steven the light bulb will illuminate and he will step away and work on some kits and begin the journey of growth in the hobby rather than stagnate endlessly. If that is his destiny, he might find it more satisfying to get a train sim program and have the train hobby in the virtual world. Some do that and enjoy it a lot.
Cheers, Jim
I want to clarify I'm not some millenial born with smartphone in hand, I didn't have video games till I was 10, no Internet till I was 14 and just about a year and a half ago I got a smartphone! I'm not crazy or insane I have a disability which makes me act and think differently! If those of you who are picking on me had to live with the daily struggles Autism brings you'd be crawled up in a ball! Aspergers also brings OCD which is why it might take a while for me to drop an idea!
I don't need your advice or opinions if you don't respect me I am no lesser a person than anyone else around here! That's all I want respect! Sure I may be a square peg trying to fit in a round hole but you guys could make the hole a little bigger to help me fit in! OK thanks I'll post some updates and pictures as my projects successfully get moving! That's all I have to say.
Steve
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!
Not sure what's happened here.
I'm assuming the cab forward Big Boy is in the realm of "what if" for your freelance line.
Many years ago, there used to be a company called Kemtron that made lost wax brass castings in HO. One of the parts they made was a cab forward casting that was designed to fit a Varney 0-4-0 "Docksider." It would probably take some real digging, but if you managed to find one, it could possibly be modified to fit a Big Boy cab.
Just a thought.
Jim (with a nod to Mies Van Der Rohe)
I am an experinced kit basher and I do not think that I would want to tackle this project. As stated in an earlier post there ane so many things that would have to be done to change things around, then the there is the fabrication of the cab and other parts. It would be a nightmare.
Ira
Nobody is being disrespectful, but patience is starting to wear thin.Every thread you start has the same general pattern. Furthermore, many, MANY people have given you good, sound, solid, helpful advice which you continue to ignore.Furthermore, you are NOT the only young person on the autism spectrum that many of us know.Nor, for that matter, are you the only person on that spectrum who posts here, but many don't use it as an excuse to ignore answers they don't like.
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Michael Mornard
Bringing the North Woods to South Dakota!
I am putting the CF BB project on hold pending more experience... I am however trying to get a kit and some clunkers to tinker with may not be the prettiest creations but they will be learning experiences...
Steven,
People who don't have autism or Aspergers can also be OCD. All some of us are trying to do for you is to get you to commit to a project and do it. Stop coming up with new projects. Pick one of the dozen you've been musing over the past few months and do it. Whatever it is...
And we'll look forward to seeing the updates when you can post them, Steven. Till then keep referring to the slogan above.
Excellent Steven. Good luck and keep us posted.
Simon
Steven.
Some of the discussion regarding the research and effects of too much computer time etc. was part of a tangent discussion which could, to one degree or another, affect any of us including NT's and Asbergers, and many in between, and not aimed at you specifically please understand. It's food for all of us to think about, young and old, parent and child, because we are all affected by it. It may be that one can have no history of computer usage in earlier life but still be adversely affected by too much time on electronics starting after age 10, or 15 or 20 or what have you. It's definitely becoming topic of discussion nationwide in the news more and more.
As for your situation. I agree with Tom. Most of us feel there has been more than enough idea's and discussion and we look forward to you trying one or two of those things out and coming back with something to show and take it from there.
I'm just wondering how someone that has been a member for only a year can have almost 1,000 posts...and not have anything to show for it.
Chuck - Modeling in HO scale and anything narrow gauge
3 reasons, 1 limited funds, 2 non supportive family, 3 lack of space...
Talked to Casey at the club, he agreed that a walthers kit would be a good start as long as it's simple so I'll be doing that and work from there...
If You really have Your heart set on a Cab Forward Big Boy........Instead of attempting to do what You want with a high priced working model and maybe end up distroying it without experience........save Your money and buy the plastic 1/87 model of a Big Boy kit and try Your hand at it.....possibly...making it into a Cab Forward.......If not, just build it to get Your feet wet. This particular site is out at the moment...but the kit is still being made:
https://www.hobbylinc.com/revell-germany-big-boy-locomotive-plastic-model-locomotive-kit-1:87-scale-02165
Good Luck........
Frank
NWP SWP 3 reasons, 1 limited funds, 2 non supportive family, 3 lack of space... Talked to Casey at the club, he agreed that a walthers kit would be a good start as long as it's simple so I'll be doing that and work from there...
riogrande5761My smart phone died when we moved on Nov 22. It didn't get around to replacing it for about 3 weeks. Can anyone imaging going without a smart phone for that long?
I lost (or it was stolen) my Iphone 4s on April 30th of last year. I have been using by old LG NV3 (only does text and messaging and has limited photo capability) since then.
BMMECNYC,
I've got an unlocked 6S that's just sitting around if you want another iPhone... Not looking to get a ton for it by any means. Just upgraded the wife to an 8Plus and myself to a new Samsung...
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I stumbled upon this guy on ebay...
I also found a Kemtron casting...