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Signal Red Paint Questions

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Posted by FRRYKid on Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:29 PM

Given that I am getting all the help, I figured I might as well post a picture of the unit in question (as well as the matching caboose):

The engine is a Tythearn GP20 (Tyco shell and metal handrails with Athearn drive and custom bent stanchions). The caboose is also a Tythearn as well. (Everything but the trucks, coupler pockets, and can antenna is Tyco. The trucks are Athearn caboose trucks. Couplers pockets are Walthers. I don't remember who made the antenna.) The green is PS MEC Pine Green.

The reason why I painted the engine pink is that pink was my grandmother's favorite color and, before she passed away, she had paid for a good chunk of the railroad. The road number is even a tribute to her. She passed away March 1, 2001. Hence why the road number is 3101. Additionally all the 7 other GP20s I have are numbered in the 3100 series.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, October 14, 2017 3:49 AM

SeeYou190
..I definitely have an excessive paint problem.

You must have more than me, Kevin.  A quick census showed 187 bottles spread over 11 different brands, and it's not yet an "excessive paint problem"WhistlingStick out tongue  
I have two Santa Fe Reds and one CB&Q Chinese Red in Scalecoat, Caboose Red in both Floquil and Polly Scale, Ventian Red in Polly S, Boxcar Red, Special Oxide Red, Light Freight Car Red, and DR&GW Freight Car Red in Pollyscale, and Scarlet and Bright Red in Humbrol, but no Signal Red at all. Surprise

However, I'm completely out of white in Floquil, have very little in Pollyscale, and perhaps only three in Scalecoat....luckily, I have little that needs to be painted pink. Wink

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, October 13, 2017 11:16 PM

ConfusedKeep your paints under control?????? Why?

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Good luck with that!

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I definitely have an excessive paint problem.

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Posted by FRRYKid on Friday, October 13, 2017 10:49 PM

doctorwayne

 don't necessarily restrict yourself to just the red and white.

Given that those were the two colors that I originally used, I wanted to keep it simple. (Additionally, I'm trying to keep the amount of paints that I have under control. I have jars of paint all over the place.)

I think I will go ahead and order the Humbrol paint and mix it from there.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, October 13, 2017 11:16 AM

SeeYou190
...Pink is not hard to match though, get some red and white and experiment...

I agree with Kevin.  You don't need to mix a whole batch of pink to experiment....a brushload of red, and two or three of white on a piece of plastic or metal, mix it up a bit with the brush and see what you get.  If it's not to your liking, add a little more of whatever colour you think might work, and don't necessarily restrict yourself to just the red and white.
I've seen too many instances where modellers look for a specifically-named colour of paint, but neglect to look at just the colour.  Your eyes should be able to tell you what colour is right or wrong or close enough, and if they can't, then it won't really make much difference which one you choose. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, October 13, 2017 7:13 AM

Signal Red is a color with a FS number, so it is a standard color.

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Here is your problem... Polly Scale paints notoriously were a little "pastel" when compared to the actual FS standard, so it is doubtful any other manufacturer is a direct match.

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Pink is not hard to match though, get some red and white and experiment, you should do OK. Close enough is good enough in this case. Just a bit of weathering on the pilot will make it look OK.

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I hope this helps.

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Signal Red Paint Questions
Posted by FRRYKid on Friday, October 13, 2017 1:05 AM

Got yet another one for my forums friends: I have some engines that I have that are a kitbash that used a shell from a drive that had talgo type truck-mounted couplers, so there was plenty of room for the coupler to swing. After the kitbash, the couplers are now body mounted. I have decided that I want to add plows to these engines meaning I need to fill the front and rear holes in. For all but one engine that isn't a problem as they were painted a stock color which I have. (It is an old PS color that I have two bottles of.)

Where I have the issue that one engine is painted a custom pink. (A tribute engine to my late grandmother.) The color was a mix of Polly Scale Signal Red and Reefer White, both of which are discontinued.

I have not found a direct flat crossover to any paint line for the old Signal Red. My question is this: How close is Humbrol 174, which Humbrol calls "Signal Red Satin", to the old Signal Red? As I have to mix the color anyway, it doesn't have to be an exact match but as close as possible would help greatly. (I have worked with both  Humbrol as well as Model Master colors.)

As usual, any help that the forums can provide would be most welcomed.

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