Hello everyone. I just recently aquired a N&W Y6b 2-8-8-2 and twelve coal hoppers as well as a caboose. I've wanted the loco and cars for a long time but because I'm not a rich man and bills come first I had to save up for it... Anyways, it will be a long time before I buy another train that means as much to me as this one does. I never knew that I could be so in love with a train which as best I can gather is from the late 1950s and which fits in with my transitional layout perfectly. Any other coal hauling fans out there?.
marksrailroad ..... I just recently accuired a N&W y6b 2-8-8-2 and twelve coal hoppers as well as a caboose. ...... Any other coal hauling fans out there?.
..... I just recently accuired a N&W y6b 2-8-8-2 and twelve coal hoppers as well as a caboose. ...... Any other coal hauling fans out there?.
Eastern mountain, heavy steam locomotive coal drags ..... railroading doesn't get any cooler than that!
I think the Y6b is the most beautiful beast.
Enjoy your prized railroading possesion!
Does Coke count? If so, I am one- Wheeling and Lake Erie modeler.
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These are the opinions of an under 35 , from the east end of, and modeling, the same section of the Wheeling and Lake Erie railway. As well as a freelanced road (Austinville and Dynamite City railroad).
if your a N&W fan get yourself a copy of O. Winston Link's steam steel and stars. lot of Y6 photos .
Yup.
But just being ever so slightly different, my coal haulin' train is a re-creation of coal trains along the Columbia River in recent years.
There's a set of BN Bethgons hauled by SD70MAC's.
And a set of BNSF and BN and assorted Bethgons hauled by SD70ACe's and ES44AC's.
But it's still coal
However.
If I was to do coal in the east "back in the day", I think I might do the Virginian. So much neat motive power: 2-10-10-2's, Alleghenys, jack-shaft electrics.........
Ed
I have several coal trains that can make up more than one.
BNSF- 18 Bethgon coalporters, and 3 hoppers.
Conrail- 17 3 bay hoppers.
Union Pacific- 16 Bethgon coalporters.
Amtrak America, 1971-Present.
Long coal drag. AHM plastic Berkshire on point.
David Starr www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com
I could use my Athearn Genesis SD75M's to pull some coal hoppers lettered for Santa Fe.
Or use some ATHG BNSF SD70ACe's/ES44DC's to pull some Bethgon Coalporters.
Not sure if coalporters ever ran on the Surfline though.
My freelanced RR, the Grey Mountain & Dalton RR, hauls anthracite from colliery to (almost) tide water (up the Hudson River from NY Harbor) in the year of 1910. Camelback Consolidations pulling wooden hopper gondolas with helper assistance.
Jim
Well, I have 11 coal hoppers lettered for the STRATTON & GILLETTE. So I guess the railroad must be serving some coal mines somewhere. None of the mines will be on the layout, but coal could pass through or be delivered.
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-Kevin
Living the dream.
It's hard to live in Atlanta, and not be a coal-hauling fan; we have the Scherer Coal Train going through from Wyoming's Powder River Basin to the plant in Juliet, Georgia. The trains are either BNSF, or Norfolk Southern; this brings alot of variety to railfanning, and they usually run every eight hours in either direction as well.
Do I like coal hauling on my rails?
marksrailroad Any other coal hauling fans out there?.
Sure, I haul it by the trainload for a power plant (like you, though, only a dozen cars at a time). I use "live" loads, so the 12 hoppers and a caboose weigh 100oz., and two or sometimes three steam locomotives are needed to move it up the many grades...
I also have six modelled coal dealerships on the layout, so there are lots of hoppers in mixed freights, too...
...and since my railroads rely almost 100% on steam power, there's a lot of locomotive coal coming in, too...like this load being shoved up the coaling tower grade to the dumphouse...
Wayne
David!
I counted 28 coal hoppers in that train. Impressive!
I have managed to accumulate more than 30 Canadian Pacific 34' 2 bay hoppers over the past few years. I haven't gotten around to tuning them up yet with Kadees and proper weight, but I do look forward to the day when I can run all of them together. That will likely happen on the new club layout after it is built as I have put my own layout construction on hold because of back problems. It's all I can do to get the groceries out of the car these days, let alone handling sheets of plywood.
Cheers!!
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
How about western coal haulers. D&RGW unit coal trains FTW
Rio Grande. The Action Road - Focus 1977-1983
One of my favorite coal hauling pictures as the PRR used these N1s locomotives to haul iron ore from the ports to the steel mills and coal north to be loaded on the lakers.
Rick Jesionowski
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Big fan here! Was a coal mining engineer myself for the last decade in Wyoming, and I model the D&RGW in the transition era, so lots of drop bottom gondolas. Got a few of them with some steam, hopefully this video link shows up:
https://youtu.be/AjHltxEXOAU
Love to see the N&W and all those little hoppers too!
How about the most powerful steam locomotive of them all, a C&O H8 2-6-6-6 Alleghenney pulling a longstring of coal hoppers.
caldreamerHow about the most powerful steam locomotive of them all
I guess that depends on how we define "most powerful". The Y6b, because of it's ability to route high pressure steam to the large front cylinders could start the heaviest train.
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My small 14x16 layout is modeled after the Western Maryland Ry in coal country. I have 2 medium sized coal lines located on-line and I can only get away with 10-12 car trains of Stewart 2 bay hoppers and a lot of 2-8-0's and Russian Decapods. My beautiful Potomacs have been permanently parked due to length.
Coal is always such an interesting thing to model. The cars are pretty cool and it allows for a lot of creativity with mine structures and all.
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works
Here five South Penn 'F' units are taking coal through ( always under construction ) Neelyton to Pittsburg. The coal cars have a lot weight in the bottom and then filled with coal. I can't run really long trains so I have short trains with a lot of weight. It takes 4-5 engines to move these up some of the grades.
Love me some coal drags! I model southern VA in the early 1980s and model N&W with some stray hoppers from other reporting companies (e.g., B&O, C&O, NPP, etc).
Doctorwayne: Can you pls stop posting pictures (totally joking!). You make me so jealous that I can't come close to meeting your work.
caldreamer How about the most powerful steam locomotive of them all, a C&O H8 2-6-6-6 Alleghenney pulling a longstring of coal hoppers.
Perhaps. However, there is a lot of doubt about the figure quoted on that one test. Instead, the Pennsy's Q2 and S2 were substantially more powerful if you use drawbar horsepower as your metric. Also, the NP Yellowstone variants could produce more tractive effort than the Y series Mallets unless the booster was used in the Y6b...which is almost always was in order to lift a train.
I model the IC and Centralia, IL in 1955. Both the IC and CB&Q had large operations in Centralia in that era to service the coal mines to the South. The IC mainline goes through Centralia which lets me model a lot of general merchandise and passenger traffic, the Southern and the Missouri and Illinois also went through town and in the downtown area all four lines ran parallel to each other (the M&I on IC tracks).
So coal makes up a huge part of the traffic through town. There was even a coal mine in town but it closed before the era I model.
Jeff White
Alma, IL
I define most powerful by the standards that were used then. Gene Huddleston's book, "C&O Power", reports tests of the C&O with a dynamometer car indicating momentary readings of 7,498 hp (5.6 MW) with readings between 6,700 to 6,900 hp (5.0 to 5.1 MW) at about 45 mph (72 km/h). The state of calibration of the dynamometer car is not known. The calculated starting tractive effort was only 110,200 lbf (490.2 kN), but no one has published a higher dynamometer horsepower for any steam locomotive.
THAT is why I say that the 2-6-6-6 Alleghenney's were the most poweful steam locmotives ever built.
I didn't know there were any other types of trains! Just kidding. Coal was the life blood of the Pittsburg & Shawmut. We also had the Alleghany Valley/Pennsy/PC/Conrail/Redbank/Mountain Laurel RR low grade that came up the Redbank Creek, Sandy Lick and ran to Driftwood, PA. All coal, all day.
Robert H. Shilling II
Hello all,
So glad to see so many fans of "The Rock That Burns".
My first train, when I was a child, was the Chattanooga Choochoo set from Tyco. My parents got it for me for Christmas.
They also bought the crane set and the coal unloading set with a single operating hopper car.
More than 40-years later, that set is long gone but I have amassed more than 30 of those hoppers.
They have been upgraded to body mounted Kadee couplers and trucks. Six of them have the cover option.
My entire pike is based on these cars loading and unloading coal and rock dust- -that's what the covered hoppers carry to a separate unloading platform.
The era is the late 1970's to the early 1980's in Western Colorado.
Because it is a 4'x8' table top pike the motive power is limited to 4-axle diesels, mostly GP40's with a few GP30's and RS's in the mix.
Hope this helps.
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marksrailroadI just recently aquired a N&W Y6b 2-8-8-2 and twelve coal hoppers as well as a caboose.
Mark you need more coal cars! I have a PCM Y-6b and it has pulled 89 coal cars! Nothing better if you ask me than a Y-6b!
I now manily drag B&O coal, might be time to fire up the Might N&W Y-6b.
Cuda Ken
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