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22 gauge wire used as an ho scale hose

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22 gauge wire used as an ho scale hose
Posted by kh25 on Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:56 PM

If i used a 22 guage wire as a hose to unload tankcars what diameter hose would that be in ho scale

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Posted by richg1998 on Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:13 PM

Bulk or liquid products?

I have seen this style hose in my area for vacuum unloading plastic pellets from rail cars at a factory or into tank truck trailers.

http://www.flexaust.com/product/flexstat-80/

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Posted by maxman on Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:37 PM

kh25

If i used a 22 guage wire as a hose to unload tankcars what diameter hose would that be in ho scale

Thank you 

 

 
I think you are asking what the diameter of 22 gauge wire converts to in HO.  According to this site, http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/wire/wire-gauge-chart.htm , 22 gauge is 0.0253 inches in diameter.  I am assuming that this is without insulation.  And this site, http://www.urbaneagle.com/data/HOconvC.txt , converts that to about 2.18 inches.
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Posted by RR_Mel on Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:47 PM

#20 AGW hookup wire would be equal to 6” in HO scale.  #22 AGW hookup wire would be 5½” in HO scale.  #24 AGW hookup wire would be 4⅞” in HO scale.
 
The dimensions are with insulation.
   
 
 
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Posted by kh25 on Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:53 PM

Thank you

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, July 24, 2017 1:15 PM

I was never familiar with AWG sizes, so always referred to wire (for modelling purposes) in thousandths of an inch.  In HO scale, .011" is a pretty good representation of one inch, and works for wire, sheet and strip styrene, and brass shimstock.
 
You're looking for a hose which looks like a reasonable representation of the prototype, but in some instances, it's wise to remember that pipe sizes are given in its interior dimension, rather than exterior. 
It's my guess that this is why the Proto steam locomotives had excellent piping detail that was, unfortunately, severely undersized...whoever read the blueprints when cutting the dies was likely unaware of that fact.

I have only one Proto steamer, which I re-detailed to match a specific prototype, using specs based on real ones...

By the way, an old standby for creating various types of hose is spaghetti (or spaghettini for thinner ones).  Simply cook it, then place it as you wish it to appear - coiled/draped over other items/ etc.  Once it re-hardens, you can pick it up and paint it a suitable colour, then put it back were it was.  The paint should discourage hungry pests from recognising it as food.

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Posted by HO-Velo on Monday, July 24, 2017 1:47 PM

Solder wire works well representing hoses, being malleable it can be easily shaped and coiled to look quite realistic.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, July 24, 2017 6:34 PM

I've used #22 wire with dirty-white insulation as attack line for the fire equipment of the Tomikawa and Yamamoto fire departments.  Originally communications wire removed during a telephone upgrade in the 1960s, it looks very much like the canvas covered firehose I saw, both in New York and in Japan.  Considering the original source, the wire might be close to a century old.

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Posted by Industries1 on Friday, February 28, 2020 1:30 AM
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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 4:06 PM

Industries1
this is a cool product:

Yes that is. Model Tech studios has some great stuff.

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Posted by Deane Johnson on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 4:27 PM

What Peter (HO-velo) said above.  I've found that solder works much better than wire as you can shape it much as you can shape a prototype hose.  It stays in shape it's molded into (until reshaped).  Takes paint very well.  Available in multiple thicknesses.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 1:14 AM

Deane Johnson
I've found that solder works much better than wire

Absolutely. For modeling any type of hose, solder it the best option I know of.

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Posted by coblesan on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:25 AM

I never thought of using wire to simulate hose.  I used drinking straws for tubing.  Great idea.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:20 AM

For those who use solder for a hose, would you use a pencil or similar to wrap the solder in a coil?

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Posted by Deane Johnson on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 5:31 PM

kasskaboose

For those who use solder for a hose, would you use a pencil or similar to wrap the solder in a coil?

 

I've never done so, but I don't see why that wouldn't work.  If you need a bit bigger coil, perhaps a hose coiled up laying on the ground, you could used an appropriate sized wood dowel.

Solder is different than most any wire in that it's generally soft and bendable, and pretty well stays in shape unless disturbed.  Wire is a lot harder to shape, and much of the time springs back out of the shape it was worked into.

Solder's softness allows it to more easily assume the shape of a rubber hose.

I guess I first stumbled into it when it was supplied as hose material with the Diamond Scale Models diesel refueling facility kit.

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