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Glue...styrene to foam

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Posted by mlehman on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:39 AM

mbinsewi
I'd be carefull with the Dow spray 77. I use it when making trees, and I have the "trunks" stuck into a peice of blue or pink foam board, and the glue will distort/attack the foam. I think any type of solvent based adhesive will attack the foam.

Yes, care must be taken with 77. However, if left "open" for a couple of minutes, the solvent largely evaporates, leaving the sticky stuff. I've had no significant problems shooting it on styrene sheet. Don't spray it directly on foam, however, rather apply the "aired out" app of it on the styrene sheet to the foam.

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Posted by G Paine on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:50 AM

I have used the plastic friendly version of Liquid Nails for something like this. It is available in toothpase tube size containers, Liquid Nails for Small Projects. It is white, the brown, original Liquid Nails will melt foam

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Posted by dragonriversteel on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:45 AM

No mention of Hot Glue. Easy,quick set time (versus latex caulking) and affordable. 

Have been using hot glue for decades in HO. From custom made vehicles to compressed BOF's.

I suggest using an Arrow brand hot glue gun. Had mine for ten years,still kicking.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by 2jerryl2 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:33 AM

At my age, 40 tears should be plenty !!

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:08 AM

jerry,

I'm a big fan of this stuff:

You can pick it up at your local home improvement store for <$2.50 a tube.  It comes in a variety of colors and holds VERY well.  I've used it to adhere foam -> foam, cork -> foam, track -> foam, track -> cork, and cork -> cork.

Working time is ~45 min.  8 hours is generally sufficient for curing but I like to let it go 24 hours for the best hold.  If you do need to make a correction for some reason then it can be persuaded to come up with a firm, slow, and steady putty knife.  Great stuff!

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:24 PM

LePages makes a specific adhesive for use with extruded foam, known as Lepages PL 300 Foamboard Adhesive.

You'll need a caulking gun to use it, and need to read the instructions if you want it to work properly. Smile, Wink & Grin

In the photo below, the elevated track just to the left of the leaning standpipe is on blue extruded foam, affixed to the plywood layout-top on the upper level of my layout.  After the adhesive had set for the specified time, I used a Surform to shape the blocks of foam, then painted them with dirt-coloured latex housepaint....

...there'll be ballast, some retaining walls and other details added to complete the scene.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:23 PM

I'd go with Richards advise.  The Gorilla Glue does expand, and if the styrene sheet isn't weighted down, it will lift up, as the glue expands.

I'd be carefull with the Dow spray 77.  I use it when making trees, and I have the "trunks" stuck into a peice of blue or pink foam board, and the glue will distort/attack the foam.

I think any type of solvent based adhesive will attack the foam.

Mike.

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:44 PM

There is a foam and plastic safe gorilla glue.  It's super strong and you'll never get it apart.  For that reason as well as it expands when it dries I don't really like it.  

There is a caulk/adhesive available at Menards,  2 in 1 polyseamseal.  The stuff's nasty it hasn't failed me yet. Easy to work with it comes in a hand squeeze tube.

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:16 PM

Applications like this can vary widely in terms of what's needed., so these are just suggestions. Aleene's Tacky Glue dries flexible, which is needed because of the dissimilar expansion  rates of these materials. Tacky Glue won't affect either, and is non-toxic. It is affected by moisture after setting.

3M Super 77 is solvent based spray contact cement. However, it is very limited in terms of ots effects on plastics. It only needs to be applied to one surface and can be left "open" before final placement of the applied piece to further limit this. This will likely work in manyappliucations similar to yours.

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Posted by jjdamnit on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:46 PM

Hello all,

I second latex caulk.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by 2jerryl2 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:33 PM

I've never had any luck with white glue on styrene altho it would work well on the foam.

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:07 PM

I've not tried it but I don't see why white glue wouldn't work.  It might take a while to dry.

I am more certain caulk would work, but I would apply minute amounts, because a big thick bead is hard to spread out as thin as you might need.

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Posted by cowman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:06 PM

I  would try latex caulk.  I've had good luck using it for several applications.  I can't think of one where I attached styrene, but it won't hurt either surface,  Might want to rough up the surface of the styrene if it is very smooth.

Good luck,

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Glue...styrene to foam
Posted by 2jerryl2 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:57 PM

Want to glue some styrene cobble stone sheets to pink foam board. I would like to use contact cement,but it would attact the foam. Seems the styrene & the foam really need their special kind of glue. Is there anything that would work on both materials that would hold permanently ? thanks

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