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Ray Breyer
Modeling the NKP's Peoria Division, circa 1943
Modeling BNSF and Milwaukee Road in SW Wisconsin
QUOTE: Originally posted by jrbernier The GP10 was a Illinois Central rebuild program for old GP9's. EMD never marketed a GP10 model. The Walthers GP9m is a good example of a GP9 that has a 'chopped nose' added. It runs decent and would be a good start on your own railroad's rebuild program. BN had a similar program for old ex-GN GP7's named CRP-1. Conrail also has several programs as well as C&NW - and I am sure there were many others in the 70's. Most of programs were rebuild/upgrades to get another 15 years of service out of the engine. Jim Bernier
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainwreck100 Does anyone make a good EMD GP-10? I need one in a low nose, if they aren't all that way. I am trying to model the AT&L railroad in western Oklahoma[:)], and that is what they use, along with a low nose GP-9 and low nose GP-7. Either one of these would work also, I just need three locos that look about the same. I'll have to paint them all, but I've been looking for a project that I could do that on. I would like one as high quality as an Atlas or a P2K, but don't think they have ever made these[:(]. Thanks for any input. [C):-)]Greg
QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy For an engine that had several hundred made, and was used on over 80 different railroads, you'd think that SOMEBODY would come out with one in something other than mediocre brass. But nope, they haven't. Modelers get relatively oddball engines that virtually no one has ever seen, like Erie Builds and C-Liners, but a GP-10? ... We've got 3841 different F units on the market, but not the single most common shortline diesel in American history. That's a whole lotta smart...
QUOTE: Originally posted by Texas Zepher QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy For an engine that had several hundred made, and was used on over 80 different railroads, you'd think that SOMEBODY would come out with one in something other than mediocre brass. But nope, they haven't. Modelers get relatively oddball engines that virtually no one has ever seen, like Erie Builds and C-Liners, but a GP-10? ... We've got 3841 different F units on the market, but not the single most common shortline diesel in American history. That's a whole lotta smart... Huh? A GP10 is an oddball designation that is used for non-factory rebuilds of older F, GP7, or GP9s. I think you would be hard pressed to find 20 roads that had them, including all the second hand uses on short lines. The most common American diesel would be a GP9 with a total of 3436 units built. Source "The second diesel spotters Guide" by Pinkepank.
QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy Sorry, but you have NO idea what you're talking about. The GP10 program, while started by the Illinois Central, was a rebuilding program specifically for GP7/9/18 units, not F's. While it is an "oddball" and "non-factory" engine designation, it's nowhere near uncommon.
Good Luck, Morpar
QUOTE: Originally posted by Texas Zepher Ok I'll buy that, but do you have any idea why aren't they listed in any of my Diesel Spotters Guides?