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Ever wonder if you picked the right era/prototype?

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:31 PM

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Do what makes you happy. This is a hobby. Something to be enjoyed. One of its benefits is you can do it anyway you want. And if that aint good enough, or you want something different, well, torch that puppy and start again! Gotta love this hobby!

This ^   Pick what is your favorite and enjoy it.  I was for a long time trying to model "modern" until graffit and wide cabs became common - at that point I decided "Modern" was wrong for me and I've back dated to caboose era D&RGW and SP.  I like that so much better now and lots of nice rolling stock from Tangent, ExactRail, Genesis, Moloco, Intermountain for that time frame.

(Plus its a good excuse to avoid the wife for another 30 years! Laugh )

PM Railfan

So I have to ask myself, why are you even still married to her if thats how you feel?  I feel kind of sorry for your wife.

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Posted by RRR_BethBr on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:27 PM

I've been planning my someday "permanent" layout for the better part of 2 decades in and out of the hobby. It has changed more times than I can count, except for a couple unifying factors:

  1. Always steam era - I just have no interest in diesels; I never lived with/saw steam at large on the main, so I probably have a romanticized vision of it, but I figure that's my perogative as a modeller.
  2. NE/Mid-Atlantic setting. The rolling hills of the Appalachians into the major eastern seaboard cities have always been the target, which still leaves about a million possible themes to model. Coal country? Big city port/terminal? Crack passenger service? Drag freights? Industrial branch line?

Change as one evolves as a modeler is almost inevitable. I can't imagine I'll ever be enthralled by true to scale industrial switching duties and/or car routing. But by the same token, a roundy-round spaghetti-bowl of track like many of my first layout ideas were would never satisfy me today. I understand the concepts of selective compression, and the elements of a real railroad that I want to include much better.

Of course, not having the space to build said layout has forced this sort of analysis, since I haven't had the option to 'just build it' and see what happens.

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Posted by Martin4 on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:17 AM

In my miniature world nothing gets thrown away by Railroads. Older locos may get a new paint and are maintained in good running condition !

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Posted by JimL on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:35 AM

Over these many years, through HO & O, I've changed many times

Shiny new red CP diesels, East Broad Top RR Mikados, SOO in the Great Lakes, back to NJ with Conrail. Etc. I've sold stuff, then bought different stuff .... many times.

But though it all, while I went head-strong into my new ideas, I always had a liking for 1950's CNJ in New Jersey. That's what I've permanently settled into now. I feel that I'm done "sowing my wild oats" doing all the other things.

So, I'm not questioning/wondering myself now. But, it took me quite a while to get here.

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:41 AM

Started with PRR in the 1950s- cost of Pennsylvania big steamers, plus the lack of connection to it ended that. 

Then went to NS, everyone is doing NS, plus the club I belong to is already doing a layout for my area As a PRR/Conrail theme  

then I tried freelancing.  I've still got my freelanced stuff, and plan to run it on a switching layout, and keep the six axle stuff I have to be runthrough power on-

the Wheeling and Lake Erie.  I settled on modern protolanced era wheeling and Lake Erie because of a few factors.  

1. The section I plan to of is the east end from rook to connelsville PA, a scale distance of fifty miles which can be done in HO scale fairly easy with a little compression.

2.  They run unit trains of Coke (30-40ish cars), mixed freight trains, and through trains for the AVR, SWP, B&P, and interchange with NS and CSX.

3.  The equipment is all "hand me down", so you have SD40-2 units as the sole road power, in varying different paint schemes.  You have the corporate colors, a few units in Rio Grande still, a Wisconsin Central unit, tons of gray primer units,etc.  You even have several high hood locomotives with AAR type B trucks.

4.  It's the old PWV "high line".  The bridges alone will be worth an NMRA certificate for engineering and scratchbuilding.  Go look up "Speers PA trestle", "Mingo Creek Viaduct", and Pigeon Creek viaduct for examples of the scale of the bridge work.  I can also put a 1.5-2.0 percent grade in. 

5.  It's my favorite road to railfan.  The trains are restricted to trackspeed of like 25mph max, so even if I have to compress distance, prototypically running speed will make it seem even longer.  

6.  While there are not too many online business presently, I plan to protolance it, to reintroduce the former industries to a modern wheeling  

You have to go with a railroad that will hold your interest.

 

 

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These are the opinions of an under 35 , from the east end of, and modeling, the same section of the Wheeling and Lake Erie railway.  As well as a freelanced road (Austinville and Dynamite City railroad).  

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Posted by PRR8259 on Monday, October 24, 2016 10:11 PM

I have wondered many times if I had the right protoype railroad and era, and have changed my mind more than a few times.  Even now I have issues sticking to one era with rolling stock.  It is your railroad.  Run what you want.

I love my T&P steam, but there's a Rutland 4-6-2 I would love to own...and I do have a couple Santa Fe diesels. 

John

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Posted by DAVID FORTNEY on Monday, October 24, 2016 10:02 PM

I like the UP,SF, and the SP even though I have never seen them in person living on the east coast. 

I don't model any specific era or location but I like the super steam era and diesels from the late 90's to today. 

I just like running my favorite trains thru the scenery I have built, for me nothing is better. 

 

 

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Posted by Lake on Monday, October 24, 2016 8:37 PM

tomikawaTT
tomikawaTT wrote the following post 2 hours ago: Some people hunt around, play the field and never seem to hook up, with the right prototype/era or the right woman.

Other, luckier, people slide down an ever-narrowing funnel and finally score a clean hit in the center of the bullseye.

Well, I am happy with the era, 1995-1999 there a bouts. Railroad is short line off of the UP, so I can have different name cars and UP assimilated engines. And the area, a kind of semi arid west Texas look. Since 2007.

Oh, and still with the right woman.Wink

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, October 24, 2016 8:32 PM

I always loved the Soo,  and the WC.  My modeling does a free-lance road, the GLC,(Great Lakes Central) models no particular prototype location, but it interchanges with the WC.  That kind of, by modelers license, lets me run a variety of "through trains", as you see on most prototypes, including the BNSF, CN, CP, WSOR, and even Amtrak, along with freelance passenger and commuter trains, and trains powered by the NS, and UP.

My last 3 railroads have always followed this plan.  I started as the freelance road being the Rock Springs, then on my lastest layout, I changed it to the GLC.

Mike.

 

 

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Posted by selector on Monday, October 24, 2016 8:18 PM

Mark R.

Nope - I picked my proto-type back in 1974 (D&H) and have been modelling it ever since. 

Mark.

 

Yeah  Except for a difference in the era, that's my way of modeling as well.  I'm always somewhere between 1937 and 1957.  With all that is available in HO these years, it's a cinch for me; no reason to question myself...yet. Indifferent

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Posted by ACY Tom on Monday, October 24, 2016 8:09 PM

Long ago I decided that Northern and Eastern Ohio in the 1950's would be my focus. That's where I lived when I was a kid, observing the last years of steam and the early days of First Generation diesels in the classic paint schemes. The problem is that the target field is too rich. There were too many railroads (B&O, PRR, AC&Y, NKP, NYC, Erie, and others) and too many types of operation on too many disparate lines ranging from high speed multi track mainlines down to weed-grown branches. Some of the top passenger trains operated in the area, plus some truly unimpressive freight operations, plus everything in between. There's no way I can do justice to it all, and it's hard to come up with a track plan or operating scheme that tells even a small part of the whole story. I've been tempted to expand the era to include the last years of the Interurban era, but there's no way I'll ever be able to do all I want, let alone these other projects. 

Actually, I love all railroads and have model locos from railroads in other regions, such as Union Pacific, Santa Fe, and the Pocahontas Region, plus some favorite shortlines in WV and PA. I also love East Broad Top and ET&WNC, and have done some narrow gauge projects in the past. I could imagine doing more n. g. projects in the future, but I doubt there will be time for more. I don't expect to abandon my principal focus on Northern and Eastern Ohio. If all of this means I'm dissatisfied with my first choice, then so be it. If anybody wants an apology, they'll have a long wait.

Tom

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, October 24, 2016 6:40 PM

jmbjmb
Anyway, do you ever wonder if you've made the right choice or should you tear it down and start over? Is it normal to always be looking over the next hill and around the next turn?

While I modeled several prototypes I've always return to modeling a freelance railroad like my Summerset,CH&V,Huron River,SCR and CD&B.

Currently I have a nice selection of SCL and Family Line locomotives along with two oddball Seaboard System locomotives.I have  NS,CR and CSX as well as IHB,OC,BRC and three C&O locomotives. A Bachmann DCC/Sound Santa Fe Alco S4 awaiting the paint shop to become SCR #12.

A 70 Tonner awiting Decaling for Lake Shore Terminal Ry(LST) a 1960 era switching road that switches the industries along the Maumee River.The main hold up is a Baldwin S12 or Alco RS1 may replace the 70 Tonner.

Larry

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, October 24, 2016 6:38 PM

I've modeled the Milwaukee in the Late Transition Era since I was a teenager, over 50 years ago.

Some years back, I saw and heard a small steamer at my LHS, and had to have it.  Since then, I've added more engines plus steam-era rolling stock.  I've bought vehicles, too, so that pretty soon I will be running a dual-era railroad.  Right now, I have everything on the tracks to make sure my trackwork supports it all.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, October 24, 2016 6:22 PM

Some people hunt around, play the field and never seem to hook up, with the right prototype/era or the right woman.

Other, luckier, people slide down an ever-narrowing funnel and finally score a clean hit in the center of the bullseye.

My spiral went from NYC to N&W to 'generic Japanese' to a very specific time and place, where it dropped anchor 52 years ago and hasn't raised a sail or turned a screw since.  The other spiral zeroed sooner - I've been married (to the Imperial subject who crystallized the 'generic Japanese' phase by giving me my first brass locomotive) for 56 years.

I can understand those who keep hunting, but am happy not to join them.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - since September, 1964)

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Posted by tstage on Monday, October 24, 2016 6:05 PM

jmbjmb
Anyway, do you ever wonder if you've made the right choice or should you tear it down and start over?

No, I've been pretty content with my early/mid 40s NYC layout, although at present it's temporarily in boxes until we buy a new home in the place where I currently live and work.

That said, I have pushed the envelope with a few recent purchases to include the early 50s (H16-44s, RS3s) and 1956 (NYC Aerotrain).   The fictitious small town that I model can easily be updated by just adding a few new[er] automobiles to reflect the mid-50s and easily removed should I decide to take the wayback machine to the "Swing Era" again.

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, October 24, 2016 5:52 PM

 Era? Not really. I've always planned any layout to be set in the mid 50's, about 10 years before I was born but new enough that there is plenty of historical evidence to see how nearly anything looked and how people lived. Plus the best diesels, first generation, with the most variety of builders - and steam too!

 Prototype? Well, I was once caught up in the whole proto-lancing thing and set up a ficticious but somewhat plausible railroad complete with a history. But much of the route was similar or parallel to some Reading branches so eventually I figured, why not just do the Reading. And here I am, for the past 25 years or so. Previous layouts were 'flavor of' or attempts to model short branches. Current design is a basement size 'flavor of' type layout because I just can't make the scenese I would want to have truly fit in the available space.

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, October 24, 2016 5:39 PM

Nope - I picked my proto-type back in 1974 (D&H) and have been modelling it ever since. 

Mark.

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Posted by PM Railfan on Monday, October 24, 2016 5:27 PM

Jim -

"Do you ever wonder if you've made the right choice or should you tear it down and start over?"  All the time!

"Is it normal to always be looking over the next hill and around the next turn?" Ofcourse it is. You wouldnt be a good engineer if you didnt. That applys to Modellers too.

Do what makes you happy. This is a hobby. Something to be enjoyed. One of its benefits is you can do it anyway you want. And if that aint good enough, or you want something different, well, torch that puppy and start again! Gotta love this hobby!

(Plus its a good excuse to avoid the wife for another 30 years! Laugh )

 

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Ever wonder if you picked the right era/prototype?
Posted by jmbjmb on Monday, October 24, 2016 5:00 PM

Over the years I've kind of modeled different things, from an HO Clinchfield inspired coal haul branch with loads/empties connection to an N scale UP/BN generic along the Colorado Front Range, and now to a Southern inspired textile town. 

But even as I've done these, I've always had it playing in the back of my head, maybe D&RG in Colorado.  And then of course there's the Maine two footers inspired by the wonderful C&DR with those On30 models would make that easy.   Or what if I changed just a tiny bit of my current layout and modeled a "what if the Piedmont and Northern had been able to connect the two halves...?"  Well, you get the drift.

Anyway, do you ever wonder if you've made the right choice or should you tear it down and start over?  Is it normal to always be looking over the next hill and around the next turn?

jim

(edited for paragraphing)

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