zstripe At this point, according to Your post above.....You may have better results/closer to desired color by switching to Blue as Your base color and tinting with the Green. For I believe the color looks to be a Blue Grn....not a Grn Blue. I'm willing to bet....If I had that car infront of Me...I would be able to come up with an almost, if not perfect match. I have used Humbrol many times before, but never tried to match any color, by mixing them. I have done so on many other brands though. I have had great results with Tamiya Acrylic's.....but I use an air-brush though! Using a brush with Tamiya, can be a challenge, for large area's, thinned or not. Minimum of two strokes with a brush, anymore, and the next stroke, will take the paint off, You just painted. I would start with a Blue color similar to Sky Blue/Powder Blue and a few drops of the Grn You have been using and see what happens. Good Luck! Frank
At this point, according to Your post above.....You may have better results/closer to desired color by switching to Blue as Your base color and tinting with the Green. For I believe the color looks to be a Blue Grn....not a Grn Blue.
I'm willing to bet....If I had that car infront of Me...I would be able to come up with an almost, if not perfect match. I have used Humbrol many times before, but never tried to match any color, by mixing them. I have done so on many other brands though. I have had great results with Tamiya Acrylic's.....but I use an air-brush though! Using a brush with Tamiya, can be a challenge, for large area's, thinned or not. Minimum of two strokes with a brush, anymore, and the next stroke, will take the paint off, You just painted.
I would start with a Blue color similar to Sky Blue/Powder Blue and a few drops of the Grn You have been using and see what happens.
Good Luck!
Frank
That's actually what my next step was going to be. After I lightened the green to the point of the first sample (October 20), I transferred about half to the empty bottle that I had left when I used all my white and left the rest in the original Emerald Green bottle. (I figured that I might want to have some extra just in case of a problem.) When I get a chance, I will order another bottle of the Humbrol 47 (a close color to the suggested Sky Blue) and I also need to get another bottle of paint anyway
FRRYKid Here's what I have to this point. I put just about the entire bottle of the blue in and I'm still lost. The only thing I do know is that what I have is too dark. Any additional ideas would be welcomed.
Here's what I have to this point. I put just about the entire bottle of the blue in and I'm still lost. The only thing I do know is that what I have is too dark. Any additional ideas would be welcomed.
I'm not sure if you're aware of it, but Weaver no longer owns Scalecoat, and has sold the entire line to Minuteman Scale Models.
They don't currently show colour samples for Scalecoat II, but if you see the proper colour in the Scalecoat I samples, simply look up the same colour name in the Scalecoat II list, and use that name and number when ordering - most of the Scalecoat colours are available in both lines and are identical in appearance regardless of which chemical makeup is used.
If you don't see the colour you want, give them a call - I found them to be very helpful...mind you, I bought $250.00 worth of paint.
Wayne
I have used the SCII before. I have a bottle of the NP Dark Green that I use for one of the railroads on my freelanced layout. I also have found the lacquer thinner to clean brushes.
Unfortunately, I tried to use the site to find paint to match a boxcar that I bought that was painted using a Scalecoat color and couldn't find it in their online shop. As a result, I don't see the Scalecoat as an option.
FRRYKid As I understand the Tru-Color line, it is airbrush only and as a result is too thin to brush paint. I have used airbrush only paints before (Badger) and over large areas it was a pain to brush paint.
As I understand the Tru-Color line, it is airbrush only and as a result is too thin to brush paint. I have used airbrush only paints before (Badger) and over large areas it was a pain to brush paint.
First off, I see that colour as a green....bluish-green perhaps and almost a turquoise, but definitely not a blue. I see nothing in Humbrol's colour charts that looks like a suitable starting point, either, but I don't use a lot of Humbrol, so don't have much experience with it.I'd suggest that you try looking at railroad colours, specifically either Glacier Green, which I believe was a Great Northern colour, and perhaps NYC Jade Green or Penn Central Green - both of the latter are close to what you're trying to mix.
Here's a link to Tru-Color paint.
Click on "Color Charts" under the "Quick Links" .....
PDF 1 has NYC Jade Green and Penn Central Green, while PDF 6 has GN Glacier Green, and PDF 11 has a Brushable Flat Light Green, which may be of use.
In my case, I don't have capability for installing a paint booth and trying to airbrush outside in a northern climate such as in Montana is dicey for a good chunk of the year. I have found that brushing gives me more control over the color especially when I use a small brush. The results usually turn out when well for me. I have gotten compliments on the qualiiity of my painting at points.
I probably should have mentioned...that I also don't care much for brush painting of Tamiya paint. All paint work with it that I do is with an air-brush. Except maybe for touch-up or very small items. Then it does have to be thinned to brush paint and then, a minimun of only two strokes, otherwise you'll wind up taking the paint off. Most times, I can do touch up work with the thinned paint I air brush with. A lot of times, I get the Tamiya paint in the Mini bottles, mainly for the bottle itself. For the Paasche lids and air brush apparatus fits right on the 1/2 ounce bottle. I don't care much for brush painting large areas anyway....maybe when I was ten.
Good Luck, on the color mix!
PS. I mixed these colors with Tamiya paint, they are replica's of the real fallen flag, truck lines:
FRRYKid:
I had the same poor results with brush painting the Tamiya paints until I thinned them down a bit. However, I still much prefer Humbrol enamels for brushing. I haven't tried their acrylics yet.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
After Polly Scale was discontinued, I tried the Tamiya paint and found I didn't like it in the least. The result when I brush painted the Tamiya was that the coverage was rough and uneven (especially black and white). That's why I switched over to the Humbrol paints. I like the coverage that the Humbrol provides.
From comparing the charts it looks like the Humbrol Sea Blue looks to be the closest to the Tamiya Sky Blue. (I was thinking that the Sea Blue was the right color but I wasn't sure.) I will get that paint ordered and go from there.
FRRYkid,
Take a look at this Tamiya color chart for Acryllic gloss and look at X-14 Sky Blue and X-28 Park Green those are the two colors I used. See if Humbrol has a blue close to it. The colors in the chart are pretty close to original, especially the sky blue:
https://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/ln/72/X-chart-10ml.pdf
I have been using Tamiya paints for quite a few yrs. now and have found many of their colors to be almost perfect matches to alot of old Floquil colors...some I have matched by experiment.
Take Care!
Edit: One example I would like to share is a Athearn 1500 Cow & Calf that I redid last month. I got them both in the mid 70's as two cow's. One needing a short nose to replace the cab. Found a short nose painted BN Grn, stripped the paint and found Model Master Insignia Blue to be a perfect match for the blue. I mixed Tamiya Lemon Yellow and a few drops of Tamiya Brown to make the Floquil color for ATSF Yellow. Painted the stripe at top, hand rails at both ends and the long walkway stripe on the bottom with it. If those are not great matches...I need another pair of glasses! LOL.
zstripe I believe You are on the right track with the Blue. Something more of a Sky Blue. I don't know if Humbrol makes one....I know thay make a German Light Blue, but it is darker.
I believe You are on the right track with the Blue. Something more of a Sky Blue.
I don't know if Humbrol makes one....I know thay make a German Light Blue, but it is darker.
From checking my color chart, it looks like Humbrol has Pastel Blue, Aircraft Blue and Middle Blue in the Enamel flats and Sea Blue in the Enamel Glosses as well as an Aircraft Blue in the Acrylic Flat. All of those look like they fit the definition of "Sky Blue" at least to me. So any further assistance to narrow it down would be welcomed.
On a couple semi-truck tractor engines that I built have a visible Detroit diesel engine in them and they had a unique color for a lot of their engines...not really available in a mixed color. So I experimented with Tamiya Acryllic gloss...Park Green as a base and added Sky Blue, in a ratio of about 3 to 1, Grn, Blu, and come up with a color that is extremely close to what I remember, for I had a few of the engines. Come to think of it...if it was a flat color...it would look close to what You are looking for. So Like I said, give some Blue a shot and see what happens.
Finally got the emerald paint that was suggested and got the white in the paint. This is what I have at this time:
I almost think I need to put a little bit of blue in the mix to get it right but I am unsure if that is the right color or if I need something else. As usual, any additonal help anyone can provide would be most welcomed.
The scheme on that car is a recent (for my era mid-70s to early 80s) repaint (1969) and from what I understand the walkway would have been removed before that repaint. The bottom sill is a case that the original model from the manufacturer wasn't correct for the prototype. (I have both photographic and expert modeler evidence on this point.) The styrene is me filling the sill in to make it solid across.
There is one piece that looks like a reflective on the picture that will be added after the paint.
Put plenty of neutral likgt on your subject. Photograph it. Then in a photo program use the color select tool against the color in the photo. That will tell you what the color is in several differnt codes. Find the Pantone color if you can, lots of vendors can match a pantone color. Maybe some printer's ink will do just fine.
You removed the WALKWAY? Well then the colors will not be a match anyway, since the colors on the car will have faded and weathered while the color under the walkway will not have done so.
What about the bottom sill? That seems chipped. Depending on the era you are modeling that should be covered with the red-white reflectives anyway.
ROAR
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zstripe Anyway...Take a look at Humbrol enamel gloss #AA0028 Emerald...looks like it could be lightened to match. Here is a color chart pdf if You don't have one: https://www.humbrol.com/media/wysiwyg/Humbrol/PDFs/New_Humbrol_Wall_Chart.pdf Good Luck! Frank
Anyway...Take a look at Humbrol enamel gloss #AA0028 Emerald...looks like it could be lightened to match.
Here is a color chart pdf if You don't have one:
https://www.humbrol.com/media/wysiwyg/Humbrol/PDFs/New_Humbrol_Wall_Chart.pdf
I will put the emerald on my order list. I didn't have that new chart. I actually had an old one, but I downloaded that one for the update.
FRRYKid,
Surprised no one answered Yet.....maybe they don't use Humbrol. Well I did, back in the 70's for ship models and I think it's pretty good paint and still have some.
Also: Their enamel metallic #AA0549 Green Mist, looks like a perfect match, but it's metallic.
Got another one for my forum friends. Does anyone have any good ideas on what the proper color would be to match (at least closely) this car?
As one can tell I needed to make the sill straight across. Additionally, I will need to plug the holes where the roofwalk is as the car in the era I model didn't have a roofwalk.
If at all possible, I would like something in the Humbrol line. I can certainly mix the exact color as I already have the white and the black in the Humbrol.
As usual, any help the forums can provide would be welcomed.