I am modeling in HO and I am creating a town square that is going to have a Civil War memorial at one end of it. I have an old war memorial that I built from a kit a long time ago. It has a pedastal and a plaque but no statue. I would like to put a statue on top, preferably a Civil War figure. I want the statue to be larger than life and I think an O scale figure would look just about right. I checked Walthers and they have very little in the way of O scale military figures and the few they have aren't right for what I want. I also tried a bing search and got lots of hits on toy civil war soldiers but all too big. Does anyone know where I can find Civil War figures approximately O scale size?
I did a quick search, but it seems that American Civil War figures in that scale are non existent. I did find several in 1/32nd scale, here is a link.
Vernon in Central Indiana
Have you looked at Hawthorne village on Ebay - they do Civil war stuff. I sold a lot of stuff on ebay that included Civil War figures, Cannons, etc. - not sure of the exact scale but larger than HO - you could check it out.
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I did an HO model of the Civil War Memorial in Dayton Ohio. I used a set of figures from Woodland Scenics. I had to reposition arms to depict Pvt Fair at the position of Parade Rest with a rifle, but after it was all reassembled and painted bronze it passes very favorably as a Civil War Monument. He is perched on top of a N scale brick chimney with the brick detail sanded off. Other parts were built of Plastruct plastic. These are not model railroad figures but part of the line of kits for school children and it includes four figures.
Paul
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There are a lot of Civil War Military Minature figures available. The scale of a Military Minature figure is usually referenced by the modeled height of a standing man in milimeters. 25mm scale figure is apoproximately 7 ft tall in HO scale, 28mm figure approximately 7.75ft in HO scale, 30mm figure approximately 8.5 ft tall in HO, 40mm figure approximately 11.25 ft tall in HO.
Do Google search to locate places to buy. Wargamer stores are one source.
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Hi jecorbett
I would sugest you would be better off using a good quality 25mm wargames miniature the figures use on war memorials tend to be life size or not much bigger than life size.
I know the Civil War still is a very big deal as far as America is concerend.
But I would be tempted to get a Napolionic British 1815 sergant and do a war of 1812 memorial
The US and British uniforms of the time where close enough to the same cut that the sugested figure would do nicely as a US soldier on a memorial.
Remember you will need two or three different shades of bronze type colours for good effect if using a war games miniature, and as your only getting one get a really good quality one.
You will see what I mean when you see them some are so-so and some are very good.
Regardless of what you choose to do please remember this is one of the few model railroad structures that deserves a little bit more care and respect, than the average structure because of what it represents.
regards John
Jecorbett,
Finding a single American Civil War figure may be rough for the scale You seek.....if You do it will probably cost You...most are already painted and highly detailed. Wargaming again, getting a single figure is rough...usually sold in kits. One of My older son's is a not of this world Army Wargamer...He buy's them....I put them together and paint, they are between 1/48/1/64 scale, there is no set scale in MM or fractions.
Here is a link You can look through and maybe call (free) for help, they might have or know a source:
http://www.sierratoysoldier.com/
Here is another:
http://www.ectoys.co.uk/w-britains-soldiers/American-Civil-War?gclid=Cj0KEQiA89u1BRDz8enExq7rvN0BEiQAaFCHm_wLbutwfjZ1mCBO1XGEXAhObIgj
And a pic' of some Wargaming figures that I built and painted.
Good Luck, in Your hunt!
Frank
BTW: Here is a link You should find useful in comparing all sizes of Miniature figures. Also on the left, once You scroll down a bit, is another list of many other Mfger's of figures/soldiers:
http://www.warflag.com/shadow/cast/figuresize/figures.htm
John Busby Hi jecorbett I would sugest you would be better off using a good quality 25mm wargames miniature the figures use on war memorials tend to be life size or not much bigger than life size. I know the Civil War still is a very big deal as far as America is concerend. But I would be tempted to get a Napolionic British 1815 sergant and do a war of 1812 memorial The US and British uniforms of the time where close enough to the same cut that the sugested figure would do nicely as a US soldier on a memorial. Remember you will need two or three different shades of bronze type colours for good effect if using a war games miniature, and as your only getting one get a really good quality one. You will see what I mean when you see them some are so-so and some are very good. Regardless of what you choose to do please remember this is one of the few model railroad structures that deserves a little bit more care and respect, than the average structure because of what it represents. regards John
My inspiration is a monument in the town square in Mt. Vernon, Oh. The statue is of a Civil War sentry. It stands on top of a tall pedastal so I can't actually measure it but my eyeball estimate is that it is 8-10 feet tall. I could go with a life sized one as you suggest if I can't find one the size I want.
Also, the statue in Mt. Vernon appears to be either stone or cast concrete. My guess is the latter. It has that weathered concrete look. I am going to try to replicate that. I was able to do that with one of the toy soldiers I had acquired but when I went to mount it, it was obvious it was just too big.
Vernon/IN I did a quick search, but it seems that American Civil War figures in that scale are non existent. I did find several in 1/32nd scale, here is a link.
That was my experience. I got a small set of Civil War soldiers. I don't recall the exact scale but I'm guessint they are 1/32 scale and they are too big. I'm going to recheck Walthers. They didn't have much in the way of O scale military figures but maybe their HO scale has a larger selection.
O scale is exactly twice HO scale in size, which seems big for your purposes (my hometown had a memorial dedicated to "The Confederate Soldiers from Loudoun County," which seemed just a bit bigger than life, but not quite twice life size). You can get unpainted Civil War miniatures in either 15mm (close to HO size) or 25mm for a very reasonable price, and most come in a grey pewter that could be weathered to resemble bronze very easily. A Google search for "American Civil War 25mm miniatures" will give you a good selection of poses (many derived from the old field manuals that specified the positions associated with the various commands), most of which are suitable for a statue (the guy I saw growing up was advancing, not standing at the position of attention).
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Hi zstripe
Those are egsagerated 28mm figures favoured by fantasy / scifi gamers 40K by the looks of those ones.
Historical wargames miniatures are whats required they come in 15mm 25mm 20mm don't remember seeing 28mm historical figures
Proper metal Wargame miniatures are not done in scales as we would recognise them the mm measurement is from the sole of the boots to eye level
The figures you have shown should be 28mm from the sole of the boot to eye level for an Imperial guard regiment Human figure, some Hero figures are sometimes slightly bigger and better equiped as befits there Hero status.
Think I will stick with Necron's easier and quicker to paint still prefer the older metals to the modern plastics.
That way I can spend more time on the primary hobby model railroads.
I found this statue, complete with the pedestal, at a train show.
I model in HO, and he's just about the right size for a larger-than-life statue. I'd imagine he's 1/64 or so.
I added the pigeons myself.
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MisterBeasley I found this statue, complete with the pedestal, at a train show. I model in HO, and he's just about the right size for a larger-than-life statue. I'd imagine he's 1/64 or so. I added the pigeons myself.
If I remember right, 1/64 is S scale and that probably would be closer to what I need than O but I figured since O is more popular than S I'd have a better chance looking for O. Most of what I see is 1/32, way too big for my needs. I have seen some 1/72 on ebay which would probably be a good choice. The only problem is they are all in sets and most of the adds don't show the actual pieces in the set so I'd be guessing whether I get what I want. I mentioned earlier that I want something similar to the sentry pose I've seen in the town square in Mt. Vernon, OH. Somebody was selling an infantry set but I'm afraid they are all going to be in fighting poses which is not what I am looking for. So the choices are taking a chance on one of the mystery sets or keep looking.
I hadn't thought of putting pigeons on my statue but was considering some droppings.
If you are happy with 1/64 - look up "25mm acw" or "28mm acw" in Toys & Games on eBay. You will find oodles of figures there.
The two best bets for you are Perry Miniatures: https://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_32
Or Redoubt Miniatures: http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=ffde61eb8243ee6a271642c091c663e5&ps_session=e7e13264951d4c16da00e4512517219a
There are a lot of American producers - but their sculpting is pretty rubbish to be honest. Whereas the Perry Twins sculpting is in a class of it's own. They sculpted a lot of those awful Games Workshop figures as their day job and produced historical stuff at night while sitting in front of the telly. They have a close association with the Kiwi director who made Lord of the Rings and have produced a brilliant diorama of Agincourt for the Tower of London (and if you think I'm gushing you should see my friends when they meet the two of them...).
Malc
MalcyMalc If you are happy with 1/64 - look up "25mm acw" or "28mm acw" in Toys & Games on eBay. You will find oodles of figures there. The two best bets for you are Perry Miniatures: https://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_32 Or Redoubt Miniatures: http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=ffde61eb8243ee6a271642c091c663e5&ps_session=e7e13264951d4c16da00e4512517219a There are a lot of American producers - but their sculpting is pretty rubbish to be honest. Whereas the Perry Twins sculpting is in a class of it's own. They sculpted a lot of those awful Games Workshop figures as their day job and produced historical stuff at night while sitting in front of the telly. They have a close association with the Kiwi director who made Lord of the Rings and have produced a brilliant diorama of Agincourt for the Tower of London (and if you think I'm gushing you should see my friends when they meet the two of them...). Malc
I put in a bid on a set of Old Glory lead miniatures on ebay so we'll see how that goes. One of the infuriating things I've found looking for what I want on ebay is that about 75% of the sellers don't state the scale of their item. The one I bid on is no exception but there are a lot of Old Glory sets listed and a few of them did list theirs as 25mm so I'm guessing/hoping all of the miniatures in that product line are 25mm. I'm guessing the lead miniatures have fallen out of favor because of lead poisoning scares but I'm not too concerned about it. I still put lead weights in my freight cars although I've seen that at least one manufactures has converted to steel weights which are difficult to break apart as opposed to lead. I'm going to prime and paint it anyway.
Re the lead - you are perfectly correct. This was partly sparked by "the great New York Lead Scare" (a few decades ago now) when NY state decided they wouldn't allow toys to be sold with lead in them in case the little darlings ate them. I think disaster was averted because one of the legislators was a model soldier collector and he managed to get the soldiers reclassified as "collectibles" rather than toys. But a lot of companies had already started moving to other alloys already. Some of them are really hard as a result (which makes conversion and cleaning up the figures before painting an absolute pain - I don't buy those brands as a result).
Search for "Pegaso 54mm ACW", and that should get you what you want, but just a bit bigger.
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Pegaso (Italian for pegasus) sells figure kits for the serious figure painter (not wargamer), and they come in all kinds of scales. 54mm is there smallest I believe, which is just a tad larger than O scale.
The best pedastals I have found for HO statues can be found in Christmas village decorations around the holidays. Cut off the ugly statue they come with and you have a pretty good base.
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SeeYou190Search for "Pegaso 54mm ACW", and that should get you what you want, but just a bit bigger. .
Note this thread over 1 year old.
I am sure that 54 mm is not what OP wanted. 54mm is 1/32 scale More than 2.7 times the size of HO.
I know this thread is old but if you are still looking, I suggest you look at 1:72 scale models. They are slightly taller than HO. Most scale soldiers are made in this popular scale. You can find soldiers from just about every war in history. You can surely find Civil War period. A popular brand is Airfix but there are others also. I hope this helps.
DSchmittNote this thread over 1 year old. I am sure that 54 mm is not what OP wanted.
I know the thread is over a year old, and the OP is probably not interested. I posted my reply for general information to the forum users.
Pegaso makes figures that are highly detailed and suitable to use as statues. They do not look like toys or wargaming figures, and they are sold individually.
Just trying to share ideas.
Another option for the record is thehistorystore.net in Chillicothe, Ohio.
A fantastic store for those interested in miniature military figures.
I am the OP although I had a different screenname a year ago. For whatever reason there was a glitch in my account which did not allow me to post to the forums. The solution the MR folks came up with was to create a new account for me with a new screenname.
I did find some lead Civil War figures and I believe they are 1/72 and just the right size for what I wanted. I was happy with the result and if I ever get around to getting a decent digital camera I will post pictures of it. I had a good camera but it ceased to work and I tried a real cheap replacement and the pictures are just awful. One of these days I will get a good camera and start posting pictures again.
Now that I have the Civil War statue I wanted I am looking for a set of baseball players for a Little League field I built to correct dimensions. I have the WS sets of baseball players but they are kids who aren't in uniform. I found a set of figurines which have two complete teams but they are not to HO scale. Still looking.
Preiser made some in HO scale. I know they had a pitcher and a batter. Both in uniform.
Kramer Products
http://www.kramerproducts.com/
http://www.kramerproducts.com/hobaseballset.htm
Tomix
https://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Tomix-Baseball-Diamond-and-Soccer-Field-p/tmx-255116.htm Scroll down.
DSchmitt Preiser made some in HO scale. I know they had a pitcher and a batter. Both in uniform. Kramer Products http://www.kramerproducts.com/ http://www.kramerproducts.com/hobaseballset.htm Tomix https://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Tomix-Baseball-Diamond-and-Soccer-Field-p/tmx-255116.htm Scroll down.
That's great. It appears to be just one I was looking for although a bit pricey. I see just one flaw. 6 of the fielders appear to be left handed. That would make it tough putting together an infield. I am hoping it is just a case of the picture being reversed. The other possibility is they are European made and they don't realize that a right handed baseball player wears his glove on his left hand. If it turns out they are mostly lefthanded, I suppose a little surgery will be in order.