nycmodel I guess railroads just aren't that high up the public's realm of knowledge.
I guess railroads just aren't that high up the public's realm of knowledge.
While perhaps true, trains are certainly VERY high in the public's interest when an accident happens; otherwise, most just take this multi-billion dollar industry for granted.
nycmodel I don't understand what the confusion is. For some reason the various NYC TV stations have often referred to the operator of a train as the "conductor". Seeing that we have at least a 150 year history in this country with the operator of the train being referred to as the "engineer", I just don't get the ignorance. I guess railroads just aren't that high up the public's realm of knowledge.
I don't understand what the confusion is. For some reason the various NYC TV stations have often referred to the operator of a train as the "conductor". Seeing that we have at least a 150 year history in this country with the operator of the train being referred to as the "engineer", I just don't get the ignorance. I guess railroads just aren't that high up the public's realm of knowledge.
Actually train drivers on the NYC subway are called motormen lol
Joe Staten Island West
For shame, hitting a whole 3 MPH! This conductor needs jailed for his/her recklessness. And then trying to prevent an issue by "grabbing the caboose", gee whiz, what were they thinking?!?
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charlie9 Let us do it railroad style and ignore the obvious. Once blame is affixed, the problem will be considered solved. Charlie
Let us do it railroad style and ignore the obvious. Once blame is affixed, the problem will be considered solved.
Charlie
Then the FRA will set new rules to ensure the crew is blame when it happens again.
Larry
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nycmodelSeeing that we have at least a 150 year history in this country with the operator of the train being referred to as the "engineer", I just don't get the ignorance.
Yeah, I don't understand the ignorance, either--or maybe I'm just an old curmudgeon these days... I don't understand the tendency--maybe just laziness--of people shortening things that don't need to be shortened. My pet peeve is "railroad" is now generally shortened to just "rail" when referring to things. "Railroad cars" have become "railcars," even among the Bretheren. We had some derailments and crossing accidents up here in the Hairy Wilds of Minnesota, and news people told us we had some "railcars come off the track" and trouble at "rail crossings"...
When i becaame educated in the Way of the Iron Trail, a "railcar" was a self-powered car, usually a passenger coach like an RDC car, Skunk, Doodlebug, Galloping Goose, or some such. And a week or so ago i heard that old bugaboo, a "crossover"--meaning a crossing.
But the one that really bugs me is the tendency to refer to anything on rails as a "TRAIN." I wouldn't mind if it were just the general public, but a few months ago I looked up Disney's amusement park railroads on YouTube and even the engineer who gives the tour of the railroad facilities refers to steam locomotives and individual cars as "trains!"
Oh, and that nonsense of the engineer steering the train into something and causing the wreck, isn't that far from people who should know better: the railroad publicity departments--even back "in the day!" I have a promotional film from the '50s where the narrator tells us that "the engineer steers the train onto the siding..." I had a coughing fit and had to rewind the DVD to make certain I'd actually heard that gem!
Maybe we're just too touchy...
Deano
Hm... link stated it happened in Bloomington Indiana - home of Indiana University - go big red. Thats my alma mater twice over.
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fieryturbo BRAKIE In all seriousness crew fatigue is no joking matter. It's the Onion. Seriousness is not appropriate.
BRAKIE In all seriousness crew fatigue is no joking matter.
In all seriousness crew fatigue is no joking matter.
Be that as it may I have had boots on the ground and know all to well 5 hours of sleep between weeks of 12 hour days is far from a joking matter.
When your body shouts out for rest and then you mark off for 24 hours of rest but, after spending some time with the wife and kids you may end up with 12 hours of sleep if your lucky.
I like the heading picture. Lionel O, european ho, all poorly photoshopped onto American ho track. Love it.
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BRAKIEIn all seriousness crew fatigue is no joking matter.
Granted.
I will observe that with me, it's usually a matter of insomnia...
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
There are questions that must be asked.. Why was the conductor operating the train? Where was the engineer? How did this wreck happen on straight track?
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been there, done that. Let us hold a fair and impartial hearing, then fire the whole crew.
Found this hilarious article and had to share it.
Conductor Fatigue Blamed In Massive Model Train Crash
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