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It's NOT Prototype (but I still like the way it looks)

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Posted by PlayingwithlittleTrains on Sunday, December 6, 2015 4:47 PM

WOW!

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Posted by Bernd on Thursday, December 3, 2015 12:36 PM

mlehman
 Figured the Heilmann would open the door to this incresingly popular form of model railroading that is solidly freelance, with only a minor nod toward any prototype most of us imagine.

 
Well it sure has my interest in a more modern freelance model. My idea of a modern Heilman engine would be along the lines of the ACE3000 but with an electric drive such as modern diesels have.
 

Not Steam Punk. It's Diesel Punk. Wink

The Strasburg RR even held a Steam Punk event last fall:

http://www.strasburgrailroad.com/train-schedule/events/steampunk-unlimited/

Not that you HAVE to have a suitable costume, but it certainly seems to help folks get into the spirit. I can imagine a Steam Punk FREEMO meet, for instance, but probably not Steam Punk RPM.Wink 

I like the custumes of the women a bit more. But you're right Steam Punk RPM wouldn't work, but if the world had gone more mechanical than electronics than it would have been a possibility. Now FREEMO that's all Steam Punk would be fasinating peice of work.

Then there's this fellow who you might say likes his freelancing in large scale -- and with plenty of meat:

http://geekologie.com/2013/04/id-slap-my-meat-on-that-steampunk-train.php

Ran across that post a while back also.

Then there's the fellow who asked about Steam Punk shinkansen and got some interesting replies, including abiut the Heilmann:

http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38482.0

I surfed that sight for a while untill I discovered I was getting into another hobby. One is enough for now.

So if you're having trouble imagining something free-lance, that should be food for thought...

Uh, make mine BBQ.[laugh]

One BBQed slice of pizza made on my Steam Punk grill coming up.Dinner

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Posted by mlehman on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:12 PM

Bernd
Steam Punk? Mmmmm close.Cool Bernd

Figured the Heilmann would open the door to this incresingly popular form of model railroading that is solidly freelance, with only a minor nod toward any prototype most of us imagine.

Here's a rather starnge diesel example:

http://tracks.lionel.com/temporary-transformation-a-steampunk-locomotive/

Several more discussions that show the affection steam punk afficianados hold for RRs and the simply weird miscellaneaous steamers of the past:

https://realsteampunk.wordpress.com/

The Strasburg RR even held a Steam Punk event last fall:

http://www.strasburgrailroad.com/train-schedule/events/steampunk-unlimited/

Not that you HAVE to have a suitable costume, but it certainly seems to help folks get into the spirit. I can imagine a Steam Punk FREEMO meet, for instance, but probably not Steam Punk RPM.Wink

But that sort of thing seems right in line with what some may find to their taste, however weird it might seem to some.

Then there's this fellow who you might say likes his freelancing in large scale -- and with plenty of meat:

http://geekologie.com/2013/04/id-slap-my-meat-on-that-steampunk-train.php

Then there's the fellow who asked about Steam Punk shinkansen and got some interesting replies, including abiut the Heilmann:

http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38482.0

So if you're having trouble imagining something free-lance, that should be food for thought...Pizza

Uh, make mine BBQ.Laugh

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Posted by Bernd on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 3:08 PM

Steam Punk? Mmmmm close.Cool

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Posted by Bernd on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 3:06 PM

hon30critter
Bernd:

A Heilmann locomotive would be a really neat project! Go for it!!

Dave

That project is going to have to wait a while because it's number 105,391 on the list of model projects to do.

That's one problem I have with freelancing. To many ideas and not enough time.Crying

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 8:52 PM

Bernd
Here's one that's been on my mind since I found a refrence to it on the net. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heilmann_locomotive http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/heilmann/heilmann2.htm I'd like to modernize this one in a model someday.

Holy Steam Punk, Batman! You've found the Ur-loco!

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 8:25 PM

Bernd:

A Heilmann locomotive would be a really neat project! Go for it!!

Dave

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Posted by Bernd on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 8:11 PM

Here's one that's been on my mind since I found a refrence to it on the net.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heilmann_locomotive

http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/heilmann/heilmann2.htm

I'd like to modernize this one in a model someday.

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Posted by trainnut1250 on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 12:55 PM

Bernd

Hi Guy,

Hey that some nice work. I'm sort of doing the same thing with rolling stock and motive power.

Bernd

 

 

Bernd,

Thanks for the kind words.  I like the locos you posted to the thread, especially the boxcabs! Great sense of whimsy in the first set of electrics - love the double PA. BTW: I also count the crocodile among my favorite locos..

There is a lot of imaginative work in this thread.  Great examples of what could have been or just pure trains for the sake of trains!

 

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 10:04 AM

Bernd,

The WPF thread is typically kicked off by one of our New Zealand correspendents, JaBear, late Thursday night or early Friday morning (NZ is, I think, on the otherside of the world date line passing through the mid-Pacific.) Sometimes someone else may start it. In any case, folks are welcome to post and discuss throughout the week, although it typically trails off after Sunday evening US time.

I'm certain all of us regulars would welcome seeing your creative work in whatever scale or subject you're modeling in currently.

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Posted by Bernd on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 7:33 AM

Thanks Dave. I know the thread you're talking about. Just didn't put two and two together. Off to post some pictures.

(Edited: Looks like I have to wait till Friday.)

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, November 30, 2015 10:16 PM

Hi Bernd:

I'll beat Mike to it.

WPF stands for 'Weekend Picture Fun' which is simply a thread that is started every Friday where members can show either what they have been working on recently or any other pictures that would be of interest to fellow modellers, whether it be layout shots, rolling stock or whatever.

Here is a link to the last WPF:

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/252235.aspx

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Posted by Bernd on Monday, November 30, 2015 9:48 PM

Hi Guy,

Hey that some nice work. I'm sort of doing the same thing with rolling stock and motive power.

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Posted by Bernd on Monday, November 30, 2015 9:47 PM

mlehman

Bernd,

Saw some Crocs IIRC, but no picsSad

That TT logging layout sounds exciting, too.WowYeah Stop in at the WPF thread and show us more anytime, even if just a quick shop table top shot of work in progress.

 
Hi Mike,
 
Could you send a link. Still a bit new as to what WPF is.
 
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Posted by trainnut1250 on Monday, November 30, 2015 9:22 PM

 

Mike,

 

Cool thread although I am a bit late to it. My layout is a proto – freelanced or proto-lanced theme.  Most of my rolling stock is modeling specific pieces of prototype equipment, the freelance part is that they didn’t all run on the same line. However there are some pieces that I built or modified just because I liked the look.  Here are three examples:

 

 

This Swiss crocodile is from my old layout - note the American trolley style overhead and the American reefer cars in the background.

 

 

 

This is my take on a water car using a narrow gauge tank casting from RGM sitting on a scratch built car.

 

 

 

This is a Sierra 2-8-0 body and tender on a Spectrum 4-6-0 chassis.  Runs great but didn’t exist anywhere in the real world.

 

That’s enough from me,

 

Guy

 

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Posted by mlehman on Monday, November 30, 2015 11:28 AM

Bernd,

Saw some Crocs IIRC, but no picsSad

That TT logging layout sounds exciting, too.WowYeah Stop in at the WPF thread and show us more anytime, even if just a quick shop table top shot of work in progress.

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Posted by Bernd on Monday, November 30, 2015 8:21 AM

mlehman

Wayne, Bear, Marlon, Bernd, and Steve,

Thanks, too, for your contributions! Neat stuff.

So I'm looking forward to whatever you end up doing with your electricsBig Smile

 
You're welcome. My favorite European electric is the "Crocidile" from Switerland. I'd love to have a model of that someday.
 
The electrics are on hold for now as I'm working on a TT scale lumber module. Yes, TT scale, the orphan child of model railroading. Great scale size in rollingstock for detailing and fit's in a space less then HO.
 
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Posted by mlehman on Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:50 PM

Wayne, Bear, Marlon, Bernd, and Steve,

Thanks, too, for your contributions! Neat stuff.

I think those and pretty much all we've seen here also shows much of the idea that free-lance modeling is less worthwhile or legit because it's just an excuse to do things the lazy way doesn't have much traction in practice. Your projects all took considerable thought and creativity, as well as lots of effort to accomplish. Your 1:1 subjects may exist mostly in your imagination, but the results are certainly concretely compelling.

Bernd,

I'll second Sheldon's motion, would like to see more. I spent almost 4 years in Europe, so I like heavy electrics. Here's a common sight of the early 70s on the Deutsches Bahn in Germany.

But little electrics are also cool, like this one on the Gotthard Tunnel line in Switzerland.

So I'm looking forward to whatever you end up doing with your electricsBig Smile

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Posted by mandealco on Sunday, November 29, 2015 5:32 PM

Hi
There is a Morristown & Erie, and there nearly was an Alco C-636P, but a demo C-636P in front of the M&E engine house is pure fiction.  But not in my N-Scle world.


Cheers
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Posted by Bernd on Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:20 AM

Here's a quartet of HOn30 boxcabs for my eventual limestone quarry.

And a close up of one nearing completion.

Totally scratchbuilt using Kato N scale drives.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:06 AM

Bernd

One type of engine I don't see posted of much are "Juice Jacks" or electric locomotives. I like the big boxcabs used by the Great Northern. So Kingstone Locomotive Works came up with their own design.

Atheran Alco PA B unit, plus added front and rear porches.

Two Atheran Alco PA A units back to back.

And just for the fun of it a "what would it look like". An Athearn chopnose SD9 with a pantograph.

And there are more designs on the drawing board and in the shops.

Bernd

 

Bernd,

I love your  electrics, post some photos when they are done - great stuff.

I have considered doing the reverse idea - making a GG1 a diesel!

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Posted by Bernd on Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:59 AM

One type of engine I don't see posted of much are "Juice Jacks" or electric locomotives. I like the big boxcabs used by the Great Northern. So Kingstone Locomotive Works came up with their own design.

Atheran Alco PA B unit, plus added front and rear porches.

Two Atheran Alco PA A units back to back.

And just for the fun of it a "what would it look like". An Athearn chopnose SD9 with a pantograph.

And there are more designs on the drawing board and in the shops.

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Posted by mcddhawk4 on Saturday, November 28, 2015 5:30 PM

Big Smile photo martinhawkins-2_1.jpg

 

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Posted by Medina1128 on Saturday, November 28, 2015 6:03 AM

I bought an undecorated "Geep". It went from this..

..to this...

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, November 28, 2015 3:13 AM

doctorwayne
Oddly enough, it is the prototype, and there are modellers of it on at least four continents.

And an island nation! Wink 
Yet to be decaled GERN Industries tank car...
...and a GERN Industries covered hopper.
There is some really nice work here.Thumbs Up
Cheers, the Bear.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, November 28, 2015 12:44 AM

I appreciate your kind words, Charles.

The Northern has gone to a friend, and the safety cab diesels were sold long ago.  I still have the C-425 (CN modellers don't seem to want it Stick out tongue )
As for GERN, it's the largest shipper on my layout, and not going anywhere.

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Posted by CSX_road_slug on Friday, November 27, 2015 10:53 PM

Southgate
I already liked these paint jobs. But I just finally noticed that the backdrop on the top picture is painted. Admittedly, I was looking at the locomotive, but for it to take that long to notice that it wasn't 3-D trees is a compliment to your scenicking skills! Dan

Thank you for the kind words Dan!  Credit for that approach goes to the late Bob Ross and his PBS  show on how to paint "happy trees": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Wo1ubuzAE

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Posted by Trainman440 on Friday, November 27, 2015 4:20 PM

Wow, DocterWayne, I really like those kitbashes, and I love how that 4-8-4 urned out! 

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Posted by Southgate on Friday, November 27, 2015 2:35 AM

CSX_road_slug
 
mlehman
Anyone else with an inspirational freelance project that is what it is -- and you like it?

 

Paint scheme for my fantasy pike - a hybrid of EJ&E and CN's 1970-80 side stripes:

 

 

A first-generation unit in an earlier scheme :

 

Caboose:

 

I already liked these paint jobs. But I just finally noticed that the backdrop on the top picture is painted. Admittedly, I was looking at the locomotive, but for it to take that long to notice that it wasn't 3-D trees is a compliment to your scenicking skills! Dan

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