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Scratch Built 'Speed Shop' from the 1950's

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Posted by chutton01 on Monday, November 30, 2015 8:33 AM

farrellaa
This is a speed shop though and not a body shop so I don't think they would need additional space for storing customers vehicles, but that is still a good idea.


Yes, I know. I grew up only a block away from such a Speed Shop in Valley Stream, NY; the "Hi-Speed" shop rated a mention on the Hemmings blog - as an  OLD SCHOOL shop, no less! The garage door was in the back, along with a parking lot for customers cars that needed a few days of tinkering.

I often walked past the shop back in the day, and quite frankly as the Hemmings article mentioned nothing in the front window ever seemed to get sold. Dad knew the owner Frank, and I recall Frank at least once coming to our home to help Dad diagnosis and fix an issue with our (then new) 1977 Ford Fairmont (quality was job #3 or #4 for Ford back then).

I still live around the area, and occasionally pass by the shop which is now closed. Frank passed away several years back, and whoever inherited the building has closed it, painted out the Hi-Speed sign & checkered flags, and no longer seems to lease the backyard to landscapers. Otherwise the shop still looks about the same, except the door is no longer open with Frank sitting outside saying hello and asking how my parents were doing. Oh yes, also missing is the roar of engines being tested and cranked at full throttle into the evening (eh, wasn't so bad) ...

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Posted by farrellaa on Monday, November 30, 2015 6:59 AM

chutton01

Bob: Do you plan to add gravel or other paving out behind the shop, where the junkers reside. Also, maybe a gravel addition to the right of the parking lot entrance (extending it some), as body shops as a rule can NEVER have enough space to store vehicles they're working on or holding for a customer (and around these parts in NY, if they actually do have space, they'll lease it to a small-time landscaper or tradesman to park his truck overnight.
Also, a fence or barrier of some type to prevent a distracted customer from backing his vehicle onto the railroad track - by the 1950s it well could be a chain-link fence, but could be wooden - maybe just a low wood post fence, as I am not not certain if the now-common metal W-design guardrail would be used at such a facility during the era you modeled.

 

I have a wood fence to go along the RR tracks but haven't installed it yet. I have some speed shop related decals to put on it first. I will put a little gravel behind the building where there is some 'junk' being stored. This is a speed shop though and not a body shop so I don't think they would need additional space for storing customers vehicles, but that is still a good idea. Thanks for all the suggestions.

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Posted by chutton01 on Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:16 PM

Bob: Do you plan to add gravel or other paving out behind the shop, where the junkers reside. Also, maybe a gravel addition to the right of the parking lot entrance (extending it some), as body shops as a rule can NEVER have enough space to store vehicles they're working on or holding for a customer (and around these parts in NY, if they actually do have space, they'll lease it to a small-time landscaper or tradesman to park his truck overnight.
Also, a fence or barrier of some type to prevent a distracted customer from backing his vehicle onto the railroad track - by the 1950s it well could be a chain-link fence, but could be wooden - maybe just a low wood post fence, as I am not not certain if the now-common metal W-design guardrail would be used at such a facility during the era you modeled.

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Posted by zstripe on Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:48 PM

I'll second that Bob...looks great!!

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:57 PM

The scenery looks good Bob.

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Posted by farrellaa on Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:35 PM

Just got the Speed Shop located and about 90% scenery finished. Still have to mount the building and fix around the edges but took some photos today to show it as it will finally appear on the layout. Still don't have any lights in it though.

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Posted by zstripe on Saturday, October 17, 2015 5:46 PM

Bob,

Glad I could be of some help...

Sounds like My buddy's car...but with a white port hole top...I got pic's of it somewhere....If I ever find them, I'll be sure to post.

BTW: Does the engine in the pic' look familiar??

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How about dis' one??

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Posted by farrellaa on Friday, October 16, 2015 1:22 PM

zstripe

Bob,

Williams Bros. used to make 57 T-Bird model kits, that were clear plastic, that You had to paint and put together, (easy to do) I picked up some 56 Crown Vic's from them when they sold them in three packs, back in the 80's. I have the link for Williams Bros. and they were taken over by Brett Ind. some time ago...I don't know if they are still around, My link show's error when I click on HO autos.

I did find a distributor that has 57 T-Bird kits from Williams Bros. if You are interested, this one is a convertble though.....might be able to bash a top. The Link:

http://factorydirecttrains.com/williamsbrothersmodels53120ho57thunderbirdclear.aspx

Take Care! Big Smile

Frank

BTW: My high school friend had a 57 port hole top that You could take off and store in Your garage and snap on a fake convertible top cover...I'm pretty sure, they are were like that...only drawback was getting caught in the rain too far from the garage...LOL.

 

Frank,

Thanks for the link and info. I just ordered the 57 T-bird and a 56 Crown Vic, I had both of these back in the day. My Bird was bronze with tan porthole top and the Vic was white and light green; both 312 cid V-8's and very fast for the day.

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Posted by zstripe on Friday, October 16, 2015 8:05 AM

Mobilman,

Go to that link I provided and click on previous William Bros. kits which is right above the pic of the bird and You will see a 57 500 Fairlane model, but it is a 2dr sedan....

Heck....here it is:

http://factorydirecttrains.com/williamsbrothersmodels53110ho57fairlane5002doorclea.aspx

Take Care! Big Smile

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Posted by mobilman44 on Friday, October 16, 2015 7:56 AM

As long as the thread has gotten more auto oriented, may I add.....

My second car was a '57 Ford Fairlane 500 ragtop - black with white top, red/white interior, and the gold trim on the side.  It had the T-bird option, a 312 cu in mill with 4 bbl and duals.  This rather rare extra was denoted with an extra chrome piece (elongated V) on the front bumper.

While there are a number of kits out there for '57 fords, I have yet to find a ragtop - or for that matter - one with the T-bird option chrome piece.

 

ENJOY  !

 

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Posted by zstripe on Friday, October 16, 2015 7:42 AM

Bob,

Williams Bros. used to make 57 T-Bird model kits, that were clear plastic, that You had to paint and put together, (easy to do) I picked up some 56 Crown Vic's from them when they sold them in three packs, back in the 80's. I have the link for Williams Bros. and they were taken over by Brett Ind. some time ago...I don't know if they are still around, My link show's error when I click on HO autos.

I did find a distributor that has 57 T-Bird kits from Williams Bros. if You are interested, this one is a convertble though.....might be able to bash a top. The Link:

http://factorydirecttrains.com/williamsbrothersmodels53120ho57thunderbirdclear.aspx

Take Care! Big Smile

Frank

BTW: My high school friend had a 57 port hole top that You could take off and store in Your garage and snap on a fake convertible top cover...I'm pretty sure, they are were like that...only drawback was getting caught in the rain too far from the garage...LOL.

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Posted by LensCapOn on Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:52 PM

farrellaa

 I still need a HO model of the 57 T-bird.

   -Bob

 

Well who doesn't?

 

(Those in N? O Scale?)

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Posted by farrellaa on Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:27 PM

zstripe
Bob, Sounds like You and I, are about the same age. I also graduated from high school in 59, was 17. Memories???

Frank,

Thanks for the photos; nice cars, just like the one's we rode around in back in the 50's. I did a frame-on restoration of my 57 bird sometime in the mid 70's and then drove it from Connecticut to San Francisco; like driving a new car; great memories.

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Posted by HO-Velo on Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:15 AM

farrellaa
I still need a HO model of the 57 T-bird.

Gentlemen, Our age and colloquialisms are showing, lol.  

Bob, When tow truckin' in the 70s had a 57' T-bird call one day, it was quickly apparent that I had the owner's baby on the hook'.  BTW, Praline made a nice 1:87 56' T-Bird with a continental kit, close to a 57' except for the grill bullets.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:40 AM

Bob ... Thanks for sharing photos of your speed shop. Very nice. 

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Posted by zstripe on Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:30 AM

Bob,

Sounds like You and I, are about the same age. I also graduated from high school in 59, was 17. Memories??? Had quite a few classic's that I restored, mostly inframe and painted, myself over the yrs. One of My favorites, was My 49 Ford, that I just sold four yrs. ago, along with My 54 which had a 256 OHV cui. v8 police interceptor engine with 411 rear 3speed overdrive trans...fast car for it's time. The 49 had a 239 V8 flathead/3speed overdrive, I put Edelbrock 3 deuces on it.....I did all My own engine mechanical/painting Myself. Drag strip, circle track stock cars, outlaw circle track, memories and then some.

Take Care! Big Smile

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Posted by farrellaa on Thursday, October 15, 2015 7:15 AM

OT Dean

Hey, Bob, is that a Shelby AC Cobra on the left? Looks to be a later model with a big engine---and even the smaller one that came out with the Ford 260ci V8 didn't come along until '61 or '62... (I remember lusting after them, "Back in the Day.") Nice models, though. Did you put a drop of brake fluid in a metal container, back in the corner? That's the smell that instantly takes me back to my own racing shop days!

Deano

 

Deano,

That is a Cobra and is OK for my layout period of around 1965 ( I actually use 1966 as a cut-off date for any model cars and even 'Built Date' on rolling stock; got to draw the line somewhere?). I am stretching things because I want to make all the steam engines 'acceptable'. I know most steam was gone by the late 50's to early 60's but I have to 'have' some models on my layout.

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Posted by OT Dean on Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:21 AM

Hey, Bob, is that a Shelby AC Cobra on the left? Looks to be a later model with a big engine---and even the smaller one that came out with the Ford 260ci V8 didn't come along until '61 or '62... (I remember lusting after them, "Back in the Day.") Nice models, though. Did you put a drop of brake fluid in a metal container, back in the corner? That's the smell that instantly takes me back to my own racing shop days!

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Posted by farrellaa on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:16 PM

Thanks again for all the kind words, it makes the build even more satisfying. To answer a few of the questions;

Larry: your description of 'dudes with ducktails and leather jackets' fits most of my friends back then. I graduated HS in 1959, so you can see the era I was working on. I still have the old 45's from the 50's, just have to put them into digital for my sound boxes.

Chutton01: Yes, there is a restroom in the back of the store area, just not modelled in detail. I could throw a couple of lockers against the back wall in the garage, they don't need much!

Lens-cap-on: Not sure of your question but it was a 1950 Mercury flathead V8 and I owned it around 1960-1962. Sweet ride, wish I still had her (her name was 'the rat'). I used to paint car names on front fenders for my friends as it was the 'thing' to do back then, as well as pin stripping the hood and trunk. Oh, the memories!

Mel: I was a Stude fanatic myself. Had a 53 Commander 2 Dr hardtop with 324 Olds V8, a 53 Champion 2dr coupe, a 54 Commander 2dr hardtop 232 V8 high performance from factory, and my brother had a 56 Golden Hawk with 354 Packard V8 and stick on the floor (very fast). Later I had a 63 Avanti 289 V8. I have HO models of the Avanti and 53 coupe, just haven't finished them yet.

I have a list of all the cars I have owned to date (I'm 74 now) and it is about 33 so far. I still need a HO model of the 57 T-bird.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:20 PM
Off Topic The pitfalls of colloquialisms.
When Bob mentioned a 1950 Merc , I thought what the.....???Huh?
 I couldn’t see a 1950 Mercedes Benz at all!!!  Confused
Nicely done scene there Bob.Thumbs Up
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Posted by LensCapOn on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:41 PM

zstripe

LensCapOn,

quote:

What was the day the Merc was back in? (1962?)


 Since the OP said "I painted (primed) the 1950 Merc just like the real one I had 'back in the day'."

 

I wanted to know when he had a hot rodder Mercury. Hence the "

 

I for one, don't really understand You question....had a few Merc's in My time.

Some info for You:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/business/03mercury.html

Take Care! Big Smile

Frank

 

 

The OP had said "I painted (primed) the 1950 Merc just like the real one I had 'back in the day'."

 

I wanted to know when he had a hot rodded Mercury.  "What was the day it was back in" may not of been the best wording.

 

And English is myFirst language....

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:09 PM

Very nicely done but,you need  some dudes with ducktails and leather jackets standing by their 'rods.

Some 50 era do-wop music coming from a hidden speaker would really set the mood. SurpriseWink

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Posted by chutton01 on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 3:00 PM

Don't overlook the Preiser Military tool set [18356 (of course currently out of stock]). I have used this kit; it's less carpentry and more machine shop so things like the wrench, hammers, bench vises, hacksaw and a welder's masks (among other things) fit well in a repair shop scene. There are other photoetched kits by small garage manufacturers (not the Detail Associate ones) which you see featured from time to time in Garage Scenes featured on the 1/87 Vehicle club Photo gallery.

Speaking of photo gallerys, do you have a locker room/rest room for the workers in that garage? In Memoriam of the soon-to-be-history nude Playboy Centerfolds, you'll need a few pin-ups in that locker room... 

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:33 PM

Your model and the whole scene are very nice. Scenes like this are my favorite part of the hobby. I too like having scenes on my layout that are autobiographic. I also love the details, I try to make all of my structures have details. This has given me inspiration to build something similar. I already have some spare tires and mag rims, also a chrome engine waiting to be dropped into an old camaro (my layout is 1990s)…. But I think I’m going to build my scene in the garage of a house instead as that is more of my personal experience.

Anyway I really like your garage. It needs a couple of mechanics and customers and maybe some more details then it will be perfect.

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Posted by zstripe on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:08 AM

LensCapOn,

quote:

What was the day the Merc was back in? (1962?)


 

 

I for one, don't really understand Your question....had a few Merc's in My time.

Some info for You:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/business/03mercury.html

Take Care! Big Smile

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Posted by RR_Mel on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:07 AM

 

I grew up in El Paso and our guy was George Brazil, Brazil’s Garage.  His thing was Hudsons, he had a 53 Hornet that was the fastest thing in town.  My thing in 56 was a 53 Studebaker Commander with a huge Olds V8, by George. 
 
It took me a long time to gather the dozen or so vehicles from my past but for me they were on the top of my list of must haves for my layout.  I have a great collection of 40s to mid 50s vehicles (about 90), even my Dad’s 52 Kiaser and 49 Nash “Bathtub”.
 
Great job on the scratch built!!!!  Your own scratch builts are always better than kits no matter what they look like.  Mine don’t come out as nice as yours.
 
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Posted by LensCapOn on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:53 AM

farrellaa

. I painted (primed) the 1950 Merc just like the real one I had 'back in the day'. I love to recreate some of my past in the models I build.

  -Bob

 

What was the day the Merc was back in? (1962?)

 

Nice model. Custom always works better. (kitbash is the best I can do...)

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Posted by farrellaa on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:47 AM

zstripe
The Tools..If You are interested, I picked up some photo etched shop tools from Detail Associates, that are really great!!!

Frank,

Thanks for the info on the tools. They look more like carpentry and plumbing tools though, although the open end wrenches would work. I like the little details myself; I have a roll of TP in the outhouse and sea gulls on the roof of my harbor scene buildings.

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Posted by mobilman44 on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:20 AM

EXCELLENT job!!!   I especially like the Merc and the rod! 

In my past, it was "Willie's Texaco" on Chicago's NW side.  Of course there wasn't a clean spot of asphalt/concrete/tile in the place.   But man, they did some nice work there, and I got a heck of an education.

 

ENJOY  !

 

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