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Super detailed ore cars, can't remember the manufacturer

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, October 4, 2015 12:15 PM

Just an update, haven't been able to get them yet but will keep looking! Did buy however some Tangent 3 dome tank cars, got sold out fast, many roads first day.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Sunday, October 4, 2015 10:19 AM

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Model Power - yes, them, it's true - made some fantastic models of the DM&IR U-29 ore cars in HO scale a few years ago. Unfortunately, they've shut down since. I believe someone bought their brand, but no idea if they're resurrect the Metal Train U-29 ore jennies.

In the interim here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/Model-Power-Chicago-North-Western/dp/B011P5OQJO

 

Model Rectifier Corp (MRC) bought Model Power.  But they don't show any ore cars on their web site.

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Posted by dmitzel on Friday, October 2, 2015 8:33 PM

Model Power - yes, them, it's true - made some fantastic models of the DM&IR U-29 ore cars in HO scale a few years ago. Unfortunately, they've shut down since. I believe someone bought their brand, but no idea if they're resurrect the Metal Train U-29 ore jennies.

In the interim here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/Model-Power-Chicago-North-Western/dp/B011P5OQJO

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, August 14, 2015 10:06 AM

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Athearn has imported both a "ribbed" and what they call "offset" 24 foot ore car (ex MDC).  These have been made both with and without extended sides for taconite service.

Walthers also imports Minnesota and Michigan iron ore and taconite cars.  The Walthers cars are more detailed than the Athearn and look very nice.

I have not seen the MTH HO scale ore cars in person.  MTH's first production run did not include DM&IR or even D&IR or DM&N.

 

The Athearn cars are the MDC cars, Athearn took over Model Die Casting / Roundhouse a decade or so back.

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, August 14, 2015 10:05 AM

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Just to be annoying, the MDC cars are based on "Michigan" ore cars as used in the "U.P.", the upper peninsula of Michigan - specifically, Milwaukee Road cars I believe. The Walthers ore cars are based on "Minnesota" cars used on the Vermillion, Mesabi, and Cuyuna Ranges. They're similar, but the Michigan cars are higher and narrower, the Minnesota cars are lower and wider.

 

 

 

 

I know that, but truth be told, in a 40 car train of mixed MDC and Walthers I can't tell the difference.  The Walther cars just derail more.  I guess I'm more in the good enough school of modeling.

 

 
I'm with you, when I first went into HO the MDC cars were all that was available. I still use them, but re-lettered them for the Upper Michigan railroads like CNW or Milwaukee.
 
I found the Walthers ore car trucks to be a problem, and ended up getting Proto trucks (I think they're called something like "50 ton plankless"?) and replacing the stock Walthers truck. I have to add one or two red Champ paper-washers to raise the car up a little. I don't know how prototypical they are for these cars, but now the cars roll incredibly well.
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Posted by TwinZephyr on Friday, August 14, 2015 8:11 AM

The ore cars should have five foot wheelbase trucks.  Walthers early run models came with 5.5 foot Bettendorf trucks which resulted in very limited wheel-to-frame clearance.  Walthers sells five foot ore car trucks either with or without wheels.  Replacement wheels with shallower flanges might also solve the problem.

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Posted by mlehman on Friday, August 14, 2015 12:59 AM

Redore
The Walther cars just derail more.

Might check the clearance around the wheels and trucks for interference with the underframe. IIRC, there was some issue with the early runs of these where they used prototype diameter wheels, or maybe a generic truck instead of the shorter wheelbase ones needed, but these didn't quite clear the as-modeled underframe.

Maybe someone else remembers more than that and can confirm, as well as the specific solution?

On the 1:1, there wasn't much clearance and things turned out to be even tighter on these models.

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Posted by Redore on Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:14 PM

wjstix

Just to be annoying, the MDC cars are based on "Michigan" ore cars as used in the "U.P.", the upper peninsula of Michigan - specifically, Milwaukee Road cars I believe. The Walthers ore cars are based on "Minnesota" cars used on the Vermillion, Mesabi, and Cuyuna Ranges. They're similar, but the Michigan cars are higher and narrower, the Minnesota cars are lower and wider.

 

 

I know that, but truth be told, in a 40 car train of mixed MDC and Walthers I can't tell the difference.  The Walther cars just derail more.  I guess I'm more in the good enough school of modeling.

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Posted by TwinZephyr on Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:40 PM

Athearn has imported both a "ribbed" and what they call "offset" 24 foot ore car (ex MDC).  These have been made both with and without extended sides for taconite service.

Walthers also imports Minnesota and Michigan iron ore and taconite cars.  The Walthers cars are more detailed than the Athearn and look very nice.

I have not seen the MTH HO scale ore cars in person.  MTH's first production run did not include DM&IR or even D&IR or DM&N.

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:25 PM

Just to be annoying, the MDC cars are based on "Michigan" ore cars as used in the "U.P.", the upper peninsula of Michigan - specifically, Milwaukee Road cars I believe. The Walthers ore cars are based on "Minnesota" cars used on the Vermillion, Mesabi, and Cuyuna Ranges. They're similar, but the Michigan cars are higher and narrower, the Minnesota cars are lower and wider.

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Posted by rrebell on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:48 AM

Redore

They're nice cars, but at $33+ a pop it would take a lot of coin for a 40 car train or two.  Only Missabe has the high air hoses, the BN taconite car paint is not right, BN taconite cars had roller bearing trucks, BN and GN painted the trucks the same color as the car, at least they got the high sides for BN the right height.

 

For my money, I think I'll keep my MDC cars.  They look just fine in a long train and operate very well.  I live on Minnesota's Iron Range and have seen these cars for real for 55 years.

 

I know your point but have always liked the cars. Everything I have almost is super detailed so go rid of my MDC cars a few years ago. I will be able to get them for around $15 which is more than my average of around $12 for Intermountain and Tichy based cars, less for Proto's at around $10.

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Posted by Redore on Monday, August 10, 2015 2:41 PM

They're nice cars, but at $33+ a pop it would take a lot of coin for a 40 car train or two.  Only Missabe has the high air hoses, the BN taconite car paint is not right, BN taconite cars had roller bearing trucks, BN and GN painted the trucks the same color as the car, at least they got the high sides for BN the right height.

 

For my money, I think I'll keep my MDC cars.  They look just fine in a long train and operate very well.  I live on Minnesota's Iron Range and have seen these cars for real for 55 years.

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:08 AM

maxman
 
rrebell

There are some super detailed ore cars I want to get of the 22' size that someone has just put out, can't remember the manufacturer.

 

 

 

 

Are you possibly thinking of MTH?

http://mthtrains.com/prod-search/ore%20car?f[0]=field_product_line%3A6395

 

 

 

Looks like them, now the second question, have any of you seen them in person?

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Posted by maxman on Sunday, August 9, 2015 9:27 AM

rrebell

There are some super detailed ore cars I want to get of the 22' size that someone has just put out, can't remember the manufacturer.

 

 

Are you possibly thinking of MTH?

http://mthtrains.com/prod-search/ore%20car?f[0]=field_product_line%3A6395

 

 

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Posted by ndbprr on Sunday, August 9, 2015 5:24 AM
The only newer cars of which I am aware are the Stewart now Bowser PRR cars but they are about three years old.
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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:20 AM

No, these are RTR ones by a newer manufacture. I do have a bunch of the Tichy and there are nice!

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Posted by mlehman on Saturday, August 8, 2015 7:57 PM

A better front-lit pic, although focus is a bit iffy.

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Posted by mlehman on Saturday, August 8, 2015 4:14 PM

Found a somewhat better pic of the Westerfield PSC ore cars. Sorry still rather dark.

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Posted by mlehman on Saturday, August 8, 2015 12:35 PM

Old school steel/wood composite ones are by Tichy in styrene.

Old school PSC steel ones by Westerfield in resin.

Pic of 2 Tichys and 1 Westerfield, all have been narrowgauged.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Saturday, August 8, 2015 11:16 AM

Do an “ore car” search in the MR Search, there are two new reviews.
 
 
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Super detailed ore cars, can't remember the manufacturer
Posted by rrebell on Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:45 AM

There are some super detailed ore cars I want to get of the 22' size that someone has just put out, can't remember the manufacturer.

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