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Posted by Paul3 on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 12:17 AM

Eight (of 50) NH Class L-1's of WWI-vintage got footboards for heavy switcher and hump service in 1920.  That only lasted about 10 years or less until more modern 0-8-0's arrived, but they did have them.

Burlington Steam,
You couldn't stand on the footboards of these coupling up to a cut of cars, at least not on the NH.  Whistling  They had their Safety Rule that specifically banned the practice of riding the footboards on the end of the loco towards the direction of motion.  It also banned using them when trailing if pulling cars.  Basically, one could only ride the footboards when the loco was moving away from you if you fell off and you wouldn't get run over by any following cars.

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Posted by Redore on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:19 PM

DMIR 2-10-2's had the typical DMIR pilot, two footboards with a small pilot under the coupler.

 

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/santafe/dmir506-buell.jpg

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Posted by RDG Casey on Monday, August 3, 2015 4:52 PM

Lehigh Valley R-1 also just footboards.

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Posted by the old train man on Monday, August 3, 2015 4:41 PM

Thanks for all the info.

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Posted by carl425 on Monday, August 3, 2015 3:40 PM

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Posted by 7j43k on Monday, August 3, 2015 3:36 PM

Burlington Steam

I for one would'nt want to be standing on a footboard of one of those monsters when coupling to a string of cars!!

 

 

I think it would actually be slightly safer than a "regular" switcher.  At least, if you're talking about being tossed forward off the footboard.  Since the 2-10-2 weighs a lot more, it will decellerate slower than a lighter switcher during coupling to a particular string of cars. So you'll experience LESS "removal force" than with, say, an 0-6-0.

And ANY of that equipment can squish you pretty easily.  I'd be inspire to hold on real tight.  Or jump off.

 

 

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Posted by 7j43k on Monday, August 3, 2015 3:30 PM

the old train man

I cant seem to find any pictures of a 2-10-2 that does not have a cow catcher. Did some lines run these locos in later years without the cowcatchers?

 

 

GN Q-1 2114 was one such.  But it was unusual for the GN.

 

 

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Posted by Burlington Steam on Monday, August 3, 2015 3:19 PM

I for one would'nt want to be standing on a footboard of one of those monsters when coupling to a string of cars!!

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Posted by ACY Tom on Monday, August 3, 2015 1:00 PM

Depends on the railroad.  Pennsylvania Railroad's N2s Heavy USRA 2-10-2's were built with typical USRA "cowcatcher" pilots.  They were radically rbuilt to N2sa's in the 1920's, and most photos show them with footboards after the rebuilding.  As far as I know, the PRR's N1s 2-10-2 engines had footboards throughout their careers.  B&O's S-1/S-1a 2-10-2's were built with standard B&O pilots; but by the 1950's, many of them had been replaced with footboards.  Out West, roads like U.P. and Santa Fe seemed to prefer to keep the road pilots.

2-10-2's were often used in slow and heavy service as helpers, hump engines, etc.  In those jobs, footboards were often preferred over road pilots.

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Posted by the old train man on Monday, August 3, 2015 12:44 PM

I cant seem to find any pictures of a 2-10-2 that does not have a cow catcher. Did some lines run these locos in later years without the cowcatchers?

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