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Modeling a yard (no not that kind)
Posted by NittanyLion on Thursday, May 7, 2015 10:49 PM

Long story short, my 2'x16' section switching layout has been packed up for long term storage (pending a move in the next few months and I'm reasonably sure it won't go back together correctly anyhow).

While I love hulking industrial megaliths and low rise commercial buildings in an urban setting, I've decided to build a module, for general tinkering purposes, and want to go for a more bucolic setting.  To this end, I have decided to drift towards the "rural grade crossing house cluster" that I'm familiar with from my youth and early adulthood in the deer infested leafy parts of Pennsylvania.  

This brings me to the question at hand for the early phase of my planning phase: there HAS TO BE some sort of article(s) about yards of the grassy kind, not the metal and wood kind, and possibly even home-houses not round-houses or engine-houses.  Yet...these terms confound the search.  Does anyone know of anything in the Archives that can help me?

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Posted by chutton01 on Thursday, May 7, 2015 11:07 PM

This won't help you one tiny bit, but RMC did an article several years ago where the author described in detail several model residental back yards he had along his mainline, one yard being very neat with walks and fencing, one yeard with a big garden, one yard being messy and unkempt, and so on, and the various methods he used to detail the yards.

For you, might just be easier to decide what you want to see in the yards you wish to model (check for any backyard photos in your or your relatives albums - it is your youth after all you want to model), then head to Walther.com to start and work backwards - there is a tremendous among of garden, trees, flowers, lawn material etc from Woodland Scenics and JTT to start...not to mention the bucketloads of residental yard details available from Busch, Faller, Noch, et. al. (or, quite frankly, the stuff you can make on your own - some stripwood and you can reproduce picnic tables, decks, trellis, etc).

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, May 8, 2015 6:22 AM

If I was going to model a yard I would look out my window and start with Woodland Scenics "summer grass",a shade tree and maybe a wooden flower box by the porch...

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, May 8, 2015 6:44 AM

One mistake that a yard moddler might make is to make the yards flat with grass across all of the lots, and then adding the houses.

Each house sits on its own lot. Each home owner has his (or her) own ideas about gardens, landscaping, lawn arrangements. Many communities forbid fences in the front of the yard, so fences only begin near the front edges of the house. In older neighborhoods, you will find no such restricions.

Tall trees will tower over even a two story house.

Most Family Activity will be in the back yards which can be fenced in, usually with a fence that allows visual privacy. A BBQ and or a pool may be appropriate.

Keep each lot unique and it will be more interesting.

Some suburban lots do back up against the railroad and will have vine covered fences to block sights and sounds. A dog or a cat may be normal, but you may run into problems with the authorities if you try to keep a LION in your back yard.

 

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Friday, May 8, 2015 6:57 AM

I swear I remember MRR Did an article on backyards several years ago. 

(My Model Railroad, My Rules) 

These are the opinions of an under 35 , from the east end of, and modeling, the same section of the Wheeling and Lake Erie railway.  As well as a freelanced road (Austinville and Dynamite City railroad).  

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, May 8, 2015 7:40 AM

BroadwayLion
Many communities forbid fences in the front of the yard, so fences only begin near the front edges of the house. In older neighborhoods, you will find no such restricions.

Another thing to remember boats need to be kept in the drive way or backyard..According to our city laws a boat in the front yard is a "eye sore" and must be kept covered in the drive way or  its to be stored in the  backyard--even if there's no alley access to your backyard..

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Posted by the old train man on Friday, May 8, 2015 10:21 AM

If your into detail you might try having someone cutting the front yard with a lawnmower, use green ground foam for the cut grass and then use static raised grass for the uncut portion. I have a gravel driveway in one of my yards made with fine ballast and in the middle grass growing. May God bless.

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Posted by derf on Friday, May 8, 2015 11:05 AM

I can't remember if it was MR or MRH where the modeler showed a grass area in the town square and had a man mowing it.

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Posted by carl425 on Friday, May 8, 2015 11:56 AM

The November 2005 issue of MR (page 46-51) has a scenery article by Low Sassi that includes an insert on "fantastic front yards".

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Posted by chutton01 on Friday, May 8, 2015 1:50 PM

Thinking again about the RMC article about backyards I mentioned (and a concept which Brother Elias obliquitely touched upon), what the author did was come up with back stories for each of the (5, IIRC) property owners, such as income level, laziness, gardening skills, handyman skills and so on, and designed the yards keeping those profiles in mind - hence the lazy household had unkempt grass material, some junk in the back yard, and bare spots (dirt ground cover) in the lawn. The garden-friendly household had flowerbeds around the house, nice paved path, a trellis and so on.
One thing - in general, the more young kids (3-->12) around, the more bare spots in the lawn* and the more discarded toys strewn about.
* From outdoor play - I have no idea if this still applies to many young kids nowadays.
But as I said before - get some images and plans, make some designs; there is more than enough scenery items available that you should readily be able to replicate the designs without any difficulty.

"To this end, I have decided to drift towards the "rural grade crossing house cluster" that I'm familiar with from my youth and early adulthood in the deer infested leafy parts of Pennsylvania."
Was that the 1960s? 70s? 80s? When?
The answer will determine the ratio of metal toys to plastic toys, the general count of plastic garbage cans vs metal (and whether there is a plastic garden shed in back), the size of backyard decks (these seemed to grow in average size to humogous dimensions by the 1980s) and the corresponding decrease in plain concrete patios, the presence of backyard vegtable gardens (which IIRC reached a peak in the late 1970s - my dad was definitely big into gardening, and he did pretty well, except the huge amount of tomatoes and cucumbers in late summer that he struggled to foist upon everyone around (Corn, OTOH which I would have liked more of, well the squirrels were more nimble in snagging those ears).
If you go really far back (1950s?), maybe you'll need a backyard incinerator.

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Posted by NittanyLion on Saturday, May 9, 2015 11:15 AM

I remember that RMC too and specifically remember that I didn't buy it.  Probably should have.

I'd intended to go contemporary, as the part of Pennsylvania I know best has a vaguely timeless quality.  Lots of houses still have antennas on them, even though they've had cable for 20 years.  Kids never wore out bare spots in the yard, probably because there was more area to spread out in (or maybe our grass was made of tougher stuff), although the dirt circle where the dog was tied up was very common.  And you still have your burn barrel (no one was fancy enough for an "incinerator") although now that's where the paper strips that come out of the shredder go.  

So many of the scenery articles and books are devoted to the wilds (as they should be, most of the Earth is that way), that it seems the groomed and kept parts are overlooked.  Although maybe I'm overthinking it and making the groomed parts is much easier than it seems.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, May 9, 2015 11:31 AM

NittanyLion
So many of the scenery articles and books are devoted to the wilds (as they should be, most of the Earth is that way), that it seems the groomed and kept parts are overlooked. Although maybe I'm overthinking it and making the groomed parts is much easier than it seems.

As a point of thought..I always thought most layouts is to well groom(perfect perhaps?) to be realistic..I've seen some photos where the country side looks like a well manicured lawn instead of having a "wild" look. Even our streets are to clean-no wheel marks,oil trails,man hole covers etc.

Perhaps more wild grass,weeds,trash etc would make our scenes more realistic?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, May 9, 2015 11:44 AM

There are a lot of details available for yards.  Besides the lawnmowers, you can find backyard grills, picnic benches, bicyles, oil and gas tanks and bulkhead doors, all of which greatly enhance the look of a yard as a model.

Also look for hedges and rows of flowers.  Think about the placement of ornametal shrubs when you plan driveways and sidewalks.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Saturday, May 9, 2015 12:36 PM

I've been slowly working on a residential area on my HO layout:

Going for a late 1950s Southern California look, so not exactly the leafy Pennsylvania you're looking for.  But I hope it can give you some ideas for modeling a residential neighborhood.

 

Here's an under construction look:

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Posted by leighant on Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:40 PM

Contrasting front yards.  Junky left, would-be yard of the month right, nondescript far right.

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Posted by leighant on Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:44 PM

A quick bibliography of articles and plans re residential houses.

 

    "1955 House, The" what buyers want, typical floor plan.

 

article _Business Week_ Jan.22, 1955 p.25

 

    abandoned house cast in plaster Model Railroader Apr04 p.62

 

    abandoned house, scratchbuild  Model Railroader  Mar2010 p.61

 

    Bungalow, Blackshear neighborhood, Austin

 

_Austin: Its Architects & Architecture (1836-1986)_ p.27

 

    Bungalow, brick, "type" house, _Mod RRer_ Jan87 p.109

 

    Bungalow, stone or "cast-a-stone",  picture World Book, 1958 p.B-1064 

 

    Bungalow, HO by Timberline, review & pix _Mod RRer_ Jul97 p.36

 

    Bungalow restoration,So.Cal _Old House Journal_ AugSep84 p.133

 

    Bungalow style brick house with crosswise 2nd floor balconies

 

            corner Walnut & Santa Fe, Marion KS, [Jan.25, 1998]

 

            kla pix Jan98 Kansas trip,roll 2, neg# 12; roll 3, neg#3 )

 

    Bungalow style houses Identifying American Architecture (Blumenson) p.4

 

    Bungalow style houses   Houses by Mail: A Guide to Houses by Sears, Roebuck and Company,(Stevenson)

 

1 story: p.45,46,47,51,60,71,72,91,92,96,203,304

 

1 1/2 story: p.15,61,88,92,113,124,246

 

    "Bungalow: the unsung hero of American architecture", _Texas_

 

_Historian_ vol.XLI Sept80 p.7 [C C Publ Lib TX room]

 

    Bungalow details: pilasters, knee braces, trim, N scale construction article for depot

 

         N Scale NovDec02 p.20

 

bungalow homes in bg as train Scout  departing Oakland, 1938 Warbonnet1stQ 05 p.8

 

bungalows bg in Oakland, train Golden Gate  at Adeline Street Warbonnet1stQ 05 p.21

 

 

 

 

 

    Cabin, miners. Review of Structure Co. O-scale kit w

 

color pix, _RMC_ Sep80 p.66

 

    Cape Cod colonial, "typical" plan, _Mod RRer_ Jan87 p.111

 

    Cape Code style  _Houses by Mail: A Guide to Houses by Sears, Roebuck and Company_,(Stevenson) p.14, 150

 

    City house. Stone & brick 2/3 story from Chicago West Side.

 

reduced depth model._Model Railroader_ Nov69 p.40

 

    Colonial gambrel roof "type" _Mod RRer_ Jan87 p.107

 

    Colonial style   _Houses by Mail: A Guide to Houses by Sears, Roebuck and Company_,(Stevenson) p.54,168,178

 

     Colonial Houses- 4 Kitbashes from Atlas Colonial Home (HO) by Vic Roseman          Model Railroader Mar04 p.96

 

    Company houses at coal mine _N Scale_ MayJun2000 p.59

 

    Company house in PA. logging town, _RMC_ Dec78 p.79

 

    Company houses, mass-produced, _RMC_ Nov82 p.84

 

    Company houses for Allegheny Midland Coal Fork extension

 

         _ModRRer_ Oct98 p.83

 

    Company houses kitbashed from Rix kits for HO Raton Div.

 

         town of Morley. _ModRRer_ March99 p.98

 

    Company presidents house in logging town _RMC_ Aug80 p.75

 

    Concrete house,cubistic, Fort Worth 1930s

 

_Cowtown Moderne: Art Deco Architecture of Fort Worth_ p.102

 

    Cottage home, N scratchbuild, plans, const. _RMC_ Jan80 p.88

 

    Empire/Italianate style blend , "Diane's house", 2-story 1874,

 

plans & elevations, _NMRA Bull_ Sept76 p.42

 

    Dutch Colonial style  _Houses by Mail: A Guide to Houses by Sears, Roebuck and Company_,(Stevenson) p.12

 

    Early Texas houses, Montgomery TX,

 

color photos by kla, Nov83 Conroe trip

 

plans & elevations:1840s home restored as City Hall and meeting place,

 

From restoration proposal report,in vertical file, Local History Room, Montgomery County Library, Conroe, TX

 

    Early Texas houses _San Augustine: the Cradle of Texas_ (San Augustine County Development Association brochure) (unpaginated)

 

    Early Texas 1-story house, downtown San Antonio, delapidated

 

kla color pix, Oct1995 San Antonio trip

 

    Early Texas 2-story house, Henderson, similar to CC Centenniel

 

House, _Texas, a Picture Memory_ (Crescent 1990) p.20

 

    East Texas rustic farmhouse replica at San Antonio Botanical Gardens, pictured on postcard and garden brochure

 

    East Texas millworkers dwelling, _RMC_ Dec71 p.35

 

    Eastern shingle cottage, "typical" plan, _Mod RRer_ Jan87 p.112

 

    Economy home "Sunshine Manor", _Newest Home Plans_ American Plan Service, 1945 p.48

 

    English colonial style, _Newest Home Plans_ American Plan Service, 1945 p.17,20,25

 

    English style  _Houses by Mail: A Guide to Houses by Sears, Roebuck and Company_,(Stevenson)

 

1 story:     p.11,156,157,159

 

1 1/2 story: p.82

 

2 story:     p.155

 

    Farmhouse classic by Corriston,

 

_RMC_ part 1, Dec72 p.34, part 2.Jan73 p.42

 

    Farmhouse Revell bashed to L-shape, _RMC_ Jul77 p.62

 

    Flat-roofed modern style  _Houses by Mail: A Guide to Houses by Sears, Roebuck and Company_,(Stevenson) p.342

 

    Foursquare house, (prototype for Bachmann kit)

 

_Houses by Mail: A Guide to Houses by Sears, Roebuck and Company_,(Stevenson) p.264

 

    Frank Loyd Wright- "Baker House" 1909, plan & elevation.

 

_NMRA Bull_ Jun76 p.28

 

    Galveston residential street of 1888 showing shallow setback of

 

houses _The Galveston that Was_ p.159

 

    Glass house, Dunwoody house 1951, seemingly all glass and supported by pipes, _A Guide to San Antonio Architecture_ (1986) p.120

 

    "Grabbe House, The" by Corriston. 2 story frame, construction

 

article w plans, _RMC_ Feb83 p.59

 

    Grandma Byrdee's house, scale drawing _NMRA Bull_ Mar76 p.58

 

    Greek revival vernacular row houses _The Galveston that Was_ p.52

 

    Greek revival Menard house, 1838, Galveston, postcard

 

    Greek revival 2-story house on Bonham Street, San Antonio,

 

subdivided into apartments, then fire damaged.

 

kla color pix, Oct1995 San Antonio trip

 

    Greek Revival 2-story on McCullough converted to art/antique

 

gallery, kla color pix, Oct1995 San Antonio trip

 

    Greek revival, _Texas, a Picture Memory_ (Crescent 1990) p.50

 

    Greek revival? 2-story frame, Houston TX, Forest Park & Capitol

 

off Harrisburg Apr2001 kla color pix

 

    House of the Seasons, Jefferson,

 

_Texas, a Picture Memory_ (Crescent 1990) p.20

 

    Houston Avenue C house, drawing, orange notebook

 

    Italian Renaissance, "typical" plan, _Mod RRer_ Jan87 p. 111

 

    Kitbash x 4 from Atlas Colonial Home (HO) by Vic Roseman

 

            Model Railroader Mar04 p.96

 

    LBJ boyhood home, modest Victorian, Johnson City. ca.1913

 

pix _Texas, a Picture Memory_ (Crescent 1990) p.51

 

HO model. _Mod RRer_ Apr94 p.99

 

    Log cabins, _RMC_ Jan93 p.70

 

    Mansard roof "2nd Empire" houses,

 

_Old House Journal_ AugSep84 p.131, 152-154.155

 

    Mary Baston's house, Hutchinson KS

 

kla pix Jan98 Kansas trip,roll 1, neg# 19,20,21,22,23,24

 

    Mexican courtyard, patio, arcade of home

 

_World Book_, 1958 p.__M-4991 

 

____    Moderne style, _Newest Home Plans_ American Plan Service,1945

 

p.18,24,35

 

    Queen Anne house by Hist.Scale Min. night color pix, _NMRA Bull_ Sept83 p.1

 

    Railroad supt's 7-room "cottage",Corriston, _RMC_ Feb76 P.40

 

    "Rainbow Row", 2 pair of 2-story Southern townhouse type

 

2000 block Sealy Ave. _Galveston Architecture Guidebook_,(1996)  p.55

 

    Ranch style homes, _Newest Home Plans_ American Plan Service,1945

 

(unpaginated section)

 

    Ranch or Plantation home, George Ranch (?), near Richmond

 

kla b&w pix, 83 Mem Day trip

 

    Ranch style house, possible conversion from frame office for coal yard. pix,plans _Model Railroader_ Oct69 p.53

 

    Rhonda Evans house, Porter Kingwood, side views Apr2001

 

kla color pix

 

    Sam Houston steamboat house, Huntsville, TX

 

_Eyes of Texas Travel Guide, Dallas/East Texas edition_ p.163

 

    San Francisco 1882 frame house, plans

 

NMRA Bull, Mar76 p.58

 

    Sears Roebuck catalogue home

 

part 2, _RMC_ Jan85 p.95

 

    Second Empire style, elements of, _Old House Journal_ AugSep84 p.155

 

    Shack on a hill, 2-room _Mod RRer_ Jan92 p.124

 

    Small 1920s residence in styrene, proto pix _NMRA Bull_ Nov82 p.20

 

    conclusion w model pix _NMRA Bull_ Jan83 p.20

 

    Southern Colonial style  _Houses by Mail: A Guide to Houses by Sears, Roebuck and Company_,(Stevenson) p.13, 184,285

 

    Spanish Mission-style building, almost looks like a house.

 

blt 1924. Diocese of Galveston chancery office, 1411 Sealy Ave.

 

_Galveston Architecture Guidebook_,(1996)   p.107

 

__    Spanish colonial home, Arequipa, Peru, grill windows,stone carving

 

_World Book_, 1958 p.__L-4299 

 

__    Spanish Revival style 1945 homes.  _Newest Home Plans_

 

American Plan Service,1945 p.8, 13, 22, 26,28

 

    Spanish style  _Houses by Mail: A Guide to Houses by Sears, Roebuck and Company_,(Stevenson) p.42, 214,286

 

    Spanish style house: "Mo-Ranch", Kern County,TX home of Conoco

 

        exec Dan Moran _Conoco, the First 100 Years_ p.145

 

    Spanish Colonial style homes,

 

_Spanish Colonial Architecture in the U.S._(reprint of 1937)

 

Plate 102, home of Chas.W.Oliver, arch. Houston

 

Plate 103, San Antonio  Plate 104. "Hacienda de la Tordilla"

 

Plate 108. Homes in Pueblo style, New Mexico

 

Plate 130. Pasadena, CA

 

    Spanish Colonial Revival homes built 1920s

 

_A Guide to San Antonio Architecture_ (1986) p.107,108,109,.114,115,122

 

    (Spanish tile roofing material, Plastruct PS-129)

 

    Streamline-moderne concrete house, just off Ocean Drive,

 

Corpus Christi, kla photo, July 4, 1996

 

    Streamline Modern concrete house, Austin, 1938

 

_Austin: Its Architects & Architecture (1836-1986)_ p.43

 

    Streamline Moderne house, Atherton,Cal 1940, 2 story medium size

 

_A Guide to Architecture in San Francisco and__ Northern California_ (Gebhardt) p.153+

 

    Styles of house, guide and "typical" plans, _Mod RRer_ Jan87 p.107

 

    Tarpaper shack _Mod RRer_ May92 p.104

 

    Tract house, "typical" plan, _Mod RRer_ Jan87 p.110

 

    Turn-of-century house, Swampscott, Mass. plans, scratchbld.

 

_Model RRer_ Jan80 p.121

 

    Victorian house details: "Sawmill Symphony-- the Fretsaw Period"

 

_Mod RRer_ Nov73 p.76

 

    Victorian home of Neal & Pat Ellwell, Walnut & Jefferson St.,

 

 
    Victorian townhouse kitbashed to arrangement more typical of northeast, for Cumberland Valley layout from IHC San Francisco house

 

 _N Scale_ NovDec94 p.22

 

 

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, May 10, 2015 5:37 PM

Just spent about five minutes with Google Maps/Earth, pulled rapid descent to helicopter viewing altitude over several communities west of Philadelphia.  You can actually see quite a bit of detail - one house had one of those circular above-ground pools with puddles (from recent rain?) on the covering tarp.

Amazing differences in the same neighborhood.  An obvious vegetable garden next to a car collector (several in the back yard, plus a detached garage and sheds.)  Nice flower beds vs well worn fence-to-fence lawn.  Quite a few mature trees.

Don't ask where.  I just pulled a 'zoom and boom' to get there from Southern Nevada.

(Now I'll have to try Central Japan...)

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Posted by steemtrayn on Monday, May 11, 2015 6:50 PM

Don't forget to include the overflowing septic tank.

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