Yes, it should be Southern Pacific SP Sorry
Max Gray imported both of those models a long time ago from a land far far away. Japan.
Hah' well this clears that up!
thanks steemtrayn.
Dave
Just be glad you don't have to press "2" for English.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ_ALEdDUB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hqFS1GZL4s
http://s73.photobucket.com/user/steemtrayn/media/MovingcoalontheDCM.mp4.html?sort=3&o=27
gn.2-6-8-0 AP?
AP?
He meant SP. A and S are right next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard.
Andre
The tender looks to be an SP AC9, coal tender.
CZ
Oh' I think she'll do just fine the way she is,though I may attempt a bit of detailing on the tender.
p.s thanks for all your input guys,greatly appreciate it!!
I'm not super-familiar with the Rio Grande 4-6-6-4 nor the SP AC-9, so I can't say definitively. The Westside tender definitely has a larger coal space, but that's not apparent until you take a second or third look. There is no front deck on the tender, which indicates that it was likely intended for an engine with an all-weather cab, similar to the Rio Grande engine. The overall look is about right. Nobody here noticed it until you pointed it out.
The reason for the "wrong" tender may be elusive. It could be a manufacturing error, but those tend to be detail items in most cases. I suspect the original tender was used on some other loco for reasons known only to the earlier owner, or the original tender suffered catastrophic damage, such as a 56" fall to a concrete floor. This COULD be a tender from a different D&RGW loco, such as a 4-8-4 (I'm on shaky ground here), and a previous owner could have inadvertently swapped tenders. But I don't think many D&RGW tenders used Buckeye trucks, so this doesn't seem like a strong possibility.
It looks good, so I'd be happy to have obtained a good-running engine at a good price. You're unlikely to find the original tender, or a better substitute. You may want to swap out the trucks for Commonwealths. If it really bugs you, you could look into building a new tender, or having a pro build one for you. The latter course would run into big bucks.
As things stand, you have a sweet-running engine. If you're still not happy with the deal, I guess you could try to contact the previous owner and see if he'll take it back.
Tom
gn.2-6-8-0 You are correct! Boy I am getting old missing that,those are Buckeye trucks and DRGW used Commonwealth trucks.MG wouldn't have made that mistake lol.
You are correct! Boy I am getting old missing that,those are Buckeye trucks and DRGW used Commonwealth trucks.MG wouldn't have made that mistake lol.
They probably didn't make a mistake. Max Gray also did the SP AC-9. The AC-9 tenders used Buckeyes. Someone probably did a tender swap.
gn.2-6-8-0 hoping someone has one of these engines and can post a picture of the tender. I recently purchased one and the tender just doesnt quit look as it may be the original. below is a picture of my tender. any help would be greatly appreciated. Larry.
hoping someone has one of these engines and can post a picture of the tender.
I recently purchased one and the tender just doesnt quit look as it may be the original. below is a picture of my tender.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Larry.
That looks very much like the tender that Lima supplied with SP AC-9's when they were built in 1939.
Larry:
Here's my Westside L-105 tender--Commonwealth trucks, and no stoker pump and the water hatches are different. The bodies look somewhat similar, but not identical.
I would say, unless the original Max Gray Challenger actually came with this tender, that it has been swapped out over the years. But then, I understand that Max Gray did have some early problems with KTM, such as their importing an Espee AC-8 cab-forward with spoked drivers instead of Baldwin disc (spoke drivers ceased with production of the AC-6 "flat-faced." So the early L-105 might have sneaked through with what looks to me like a C&O tender. It's not so horribly off that anyone but a Rio Grande aficionado would notice the difference, though. Tom
I would say, unless the original Max Gray Challenger actually came with this tender, that it has been swapped out over the years. But then, I understand that Max Gray did have some early problems with KTM, such as their importing an Espee AC-8 cab-forward with spoked drivers instead of Baldwin disc (spoke drivers ceased with production of the AC-6 "flat-faced." So the early L-105 might have sneaked through with what looks to me like a C&O tender. It's not so horribly off that anyone but a Rio Grande aficionado would notice the difference, though.
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
I am not a D&RGW guy, but a quick look online implies the trucks are wrong.
Ed