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Looking for colorfull gondola loads from the 40s

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Looking for colorfull gondola loads from the 40s
Posted by Blind Bruce on Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:02 PM

Most of my gondolas are black and I lose sight of them from time to time. I usually intersperse a yellow reefer or billboard boxcar to catch my eye.

Would there have been any brightly colored loads for gondolas pre 1949?

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Posted by ndbprr on Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:06 PM
Don't know when but all the beams for the Golden Gate bridge were shipped from Bethlehem Steel already painted in the orange primer.
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, April 19, 2015 2:48 PM

Scrap metal will be mostly dark or rust, but you can hand-paint pieces any bright color you'd like.  A few shiny, sharp edges can catch the eye, too.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, April 19, 2015 2:57 PM

During the WWII scrap drives a lot of brightly-painted sheet steel would end up as open gondola loads headed for a steel mill - everything from automotive fenders and quarter panels to old roadside signs with the 24-sheet billboard still in place.  Lots of smaller signs, too.

Quite a few loads would be covered with tan (canvas) or blue jean stock tarpaulins.  The ubiquitous baby blue plastic came much later.

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:15 PM

Here is a photo of a 16" Naval Rifle (shortened and plugged) that was brought to my plant in 1959 to be used as a 45,000 psi. pressure vessel. This one is off the USS Colorado BB-45. It was painted a shade of moss green. Nice details of the blocking here, too.

It would make for an interesting load. AMB Laserkit makes a resin 16" gun kit but for this shortened version you could scratch build something.

Even though this mirror blank was loaded onto a flatcar, since it is being loaded by crane it could just as easily have gone into a gondola.

Also, there are lots of bulk chemical containers like the ones Athearn used to offer that can go into gons. They were painted bright colors and the lime ones weathered to white. They had some silver merchandise containers, too.

https://www.google.com/search?q=athearn+container+gondola&biw=1527&bih=875&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=8Q00Ve7BEcPugwT9kYDICw&ved=0CB0QsAQ

Walthers made some nicely detailed coke containers for gons but they were pretty pricey if you were going to fill a gon with the number needed (8-10-12?)

Hope this helps, Ed

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Posted by ACY Tom on Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:35 PM

How about raw sulfur?  It would be yellow.

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Posted by ndbprr on Sunday, April 19, 2015 6:29 PM
The mirror is on a flat for clearance reasons
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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, April 19, 2015 6:53 PM

ndbprr
The mirror is on a flat for clearance reasons
 

Deck height of gondola or flat was the same at 3' 9". Clearance was not an issue, we just thought the flat would be easier to load. Mirror blank was only going from Euclid, Ohio to Toledo, Ohio to the Owens-Illinois plant for grinding. The O-I plant had an overhead hoist that wouldn't have the height to lift the housing out of a gondola.

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Posted by csxns on Sunday, April 19, 2015 6:57 PM

gmpullman
Euclid, Ohio to Toledo, Ohio

Why not just truck it.

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:14 PM

Russell,

The mirror blank was 42,000 lbs and the housing was another 50,000 lbs making it a bit heavier than the 80,000 lb gross vehicle weight allowed on the Ohio Turnpike at the time.

 

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Posted by jjdamnit on Sunday, April 19, 2015 8:00 PM

Hello All,

Post WWII there were lots of reclaimed war material being shipped by rail.

To add color think of light colored canvas tarps covering the various loads of decommissioned weapons.

You could also consider loads of reclaimed aluminium ingots being transported on flat cars or gondolas and coiled steel loads.

Also, the post war housing boom meant almost endless loads of cut timber. Loads of sewer pipes; either gray cement or red terra-cotta, would add color as well.

Even adding white colored tanker cars would add some contrast to your string of black rolling stock.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by cowman on Monday, April 20, 2015 7:02 PM

My first thoughts were of the afore mentioned tarps, either tan or green. The items they are covering can be a variety of shapes, adding interest.  Farm or industrial equipment come in a variety of colors and shapes also.

Have fun,

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Posted by G Paine on Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:44 AM

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Posted by farrellaa on Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:44 PM

csxns
 
gmpullman
Euclid, Ohio to Toledo, Ohio

 

Why not just truck it.

 

 

Because this is a model RAILROAD forum?

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:05 PM

Blind Bruce
....Would there have been any brightly colored loads for gondolas pre 1949?

Wayne

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:36 PM

Those are beautiful loads, Wayne! Nice blocking work.

I just happened to remember a project I started a few years ago and never got around to finishing and, although they might not be real colorful, they make a nice gon load... Auto frames. You don't see them much today—unitized construction?—but in the post War years I remember seeing them pretty frequently.

I'll have to update this post when I find the name of the manufacturer of the frame loads I have.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 12:48 AM

Thanks for your kind words, Ed. Big Smile

The automobile frames are from JJM Railroad Enterprises, 80 frames to a box.  I used Accurail 41' AAR gondolas, so had several frames leftover from each carload.

I built mine with the end racks and floor blocking separate from the loads.  That way, I can run the cars loaded or without the frames, or remove the racks and blocking so that the car can be used for other loads.

These are considered excess height cars on my layout, and when in frame service, have strict routing instructions.

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:58 AM

Are the beam loads in the gon and on the flat car scratchbuilt, or are they re-purposed from something else?

 

 
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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:07 AM

The orange loads are part of an overhead crane, and are spread over a consist of several cars:

All of the crane parts (plus the blocking) are made from styrene: .060" sheet for the larger surfaces and Evergreen strip and structural shapes for the details and blocking.  I've yet to add tie-downs and some other blocking, but these cars would run as a special move, probably with several boxcars supposedly loaded with the smaller components, such as motors and gearcases.

The loads are removeable as units with their blocking.  I hope to built a few more, somewhat different ones, just to add variety.  
While the company producing these parts is based on a real one and is considered  to be an on-layout industry, there's no actual factory modelled.  Instead, I have a small staging area beneath my main south staging yard, consisting of two tracks, each about 6' long.  These two tracks can represent any number of industries, including ones too large to model even partially, and I can add to the companies located here simply by making-up a new one:  empties in and loads out, or loads in and empties out.  It's a great traffic generator which takes up space only beneath other space already in use.
In this photo, it's the two tracks immediately above the two locos in the foreground.

 

The third line, in the rear foreground, is a run-through track used only when the grandkids want to run trains.  Otherwise the layout is operated point-to-point.

Here's a couple of loads made mostly from re-purposed material.  Meant to represent processing machinery for GERN Industries, they're made from panels left-over from a Walthers enclosed autorack.  I scored the back surfaces of all panels at the points where they narrowed, then bent along the lines and cemented them together. Details are from MDC Shays and odds 'n' ends from the parts department.  Blocking is strip styrene with tiedowns made from music wire.  As usual, loads and blocking are removeable as a unit.

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:47 AM

doctorwayne
All of the crane parts (plus the blocking) are made from styrene: .060" sheet for the larger surfaces and Evergreen strip and structural shapes for the details and blocking. I've yet to add tie-downs and some other blocking, but these cars would run as a special move, probably with several boxcars supposedly loaded with the smaller components, such as motors and gearcases.

Thanks for the info.  They are very well done.

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Posted by csxns on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 3:26 PM

farrellaa
Because this is a model RAILROAD forum?

You have a problem?

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