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Worried about "How perfect and Straight" your track is? You won't after watching this!

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:10 AM

Kyle

I have seen a photo of the same tracks on railpictures.net before and it really is that bad.  The locomotive was leaning over, kind of like a sailboat on a windy day.

However as long as the train doesn't derail and gets to its destination, the track is still making money.  Hopefully the customers don't expect fast service.Smile, Wink & Grin

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Here's proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYHUTbyPUS0

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Posted by Kyle on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:46 PM

I have seen a photo of the same tracks on railpictures.net before and it really is that bad.  The locomotive was leaning over, kind of like a sailboat on a windy day.

However as long as the train doesn't derail and gets to its destination, the track is still making money.  Hopefully the customers don't expect fast service.Smile, Wink & Grin

The saying "there's a prototype for everything" is almost always true.

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Posted by Fergmiester on Thursday, January 15, 2015 10:21 AM

I guess the point I was making was more in relation with my own layout. I've replaced about 2/3rds of the track and twinned it. I've used straight edges, levels, shims, ballast, you name it to get all the wobbles out. however there are still some and like some stains will never fully disappear! After watching this video I said to myself "loosen up" nothing is perfect! Yest I still have a bit more tweeking to do before I'm satisfied.

As said by B&O1952 "if the train doesn't derail, it's good."

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Wednesday, January 14, 2015 4:26 PM

The MAW doesn't have an exclusive on bad track.  I recall an 8mm movie shown by a clubmember on Okinawa 40 years ago of (I think) a Conrail train getting under way somewhere in the midwest.  It looked like a WWII convoy passing the Ambrose Lightship in a nor'easter.

Needless to say, I model railroads prosperous enough to keep all track lined and leveled - at least, all through and frequently used track.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:46 PM

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cacole
 It's not a case of the telephoto distortion making it look bad, it really is that bad when seen up close.

 

I'm sure it is bad, but the telephoto shot does make it look worse - I've seen this effect more times than I can count in other photo's too.  This is basic optics - all professional photographers are familiar with this effect.

 

 

Jim,I have seen the MAW track up close during a railfan visit..Its as bad as the video shows and in one area the the engine and cars leans to the right..I would not want to be a crew men on the former MAW.

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Posted by B&O1952 on Wednesday, January 14, 2015 11:00 AM

When I was on the RR as a conductor and engineer, there were quite a few places with rough track. Some yards were like riding on the high seas! As far as my HO track work is concerned, my dad and I always went by the philosophy that if the train doesn't derail, it's good.

 

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Posted by rdgk1se3019 on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:28 PM

Looks like Strasburg RR track at the end of their season.

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Posted by yougottawanta on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 12:08 PM

Geez Steve I thought that engine was going to tip over !

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Posted by E-L man tom on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:29 AM

I believe I'm addicted to these railroad videos! I have lately made a habit of just doing a search, I usually type in "railroad switching moves, videos" and it will bring up several great links that will show many, many railroad videos, from switching moves to fast freights to passenger trains to different derailments; you name it. I've seen all of the videos that have been mentioned here.

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:19 AM

I don't know the link to it, but there's another, longer video on Youtube showing a former Illinois Central locomotive pulling the train, and some shots taken down the track from a distance.

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Posted by Steven S on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:07 AM

This video has probably been posted before, but it's worth seeing again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYHUTbyPUS0

 

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Posted by carl425 on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:13 AM

riogrande5761
all professional photographers are familiar with this effect.

Amateurs too!  It's called "foreshortening".

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:26 AM

cacole
 It's not a case of the telephoto distortion making it look bad, it really is that bad when seen up close.

I'm sure it is bad, but the telephoto shot does make it look worse - I've seen this effect more times than I can count in other photo's too.  This is basic optics - all professional photographers are familiar with this effect.

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, January 12, 2015 11:55 PM

The video goes to prove that you can drive a locomotive with your fingers crossed!LaughLaugh

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, January 12, 2015 11:51 PM

I wish I had taken a video of a freight train I watched going through Niagara Falls, Ontario several years ago. The in-town track was wobbly but things weren't too bad as the engine ran through town at low speed. However, as the engine cleared the center of town and began to accelerate the cars that were still on the bad trackage at the top of Clifton Hill really started to rock back and forth. I said to my wife that we were rather stupid to be standing close to the tracks as the swaying got worse. Nothing happened of course, but I have to say that I was more than a little concerned watching the whole thing happen. The offending track has since been removed.

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Posted by dinwitty on Monday, January 12, 2015 11:35 PM
I think theres another shot out there I have seen of this line. I have film shot of the Penn Central, mainline track and the cars are wobbly, a taste of a financially troubled railroad. Prototype has better trucks and springings and equalizers for rough track than the model, so keep your model track smooth, save rough stuff for 0-4-0's and 4 wheel trucks unless you have sprung wheels on your engines.
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Posted by wabash2800 on Monday, January 12, 2015 5:32 PM

In all fairness, the new owners have put some money into the track and are working on it. But it'll probably never get above 10 mph unless there is a big upserge in business with the corresponding revenue to rebuild the track to higher standards.

Yes, this was part of the original Wabash RR mainline btw Toledo and St. Louis, built in the 1850s, that killed the canal boats. But, believe it or not, Wabash passenger trains Nos. 12 and 13 ran on this line btw Fort Wayne and Toledo to connect with St. Louis-Detroit trains at Fort Wayne into the late 1950s. The old Wabash 5th District btw Fort Wayne and Toledo would be fun to model, especially the Defiance area with its old factory buildings and ancient, weight restricted multi-span thru truss bridge over the Maumee River (still there).

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, January 12, 2015 4:28 PM

bogp40
The rolling stock looked awesome wobbling about, however the small steam would stall and derail. Don't try this, please continue to strive for decent track laying. Our locos rely on electrical PU, as well as some quite finicky pieces derailing on otherwise decent track.

I used a jewelers hammer and place dents in a section of flex track on one of my former ISLs  and at  slow restricted scale speed I had no issues.

Looked pretty good as the train bobbed and weaved over this section..

 

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Posted by bogp40 on Monday, January 12, 2015 3:43 PM

The rolling stock doesn't look much better either, The graffiti paint may be holding some of them together.

We had a club member attempt something similar to this, (no where to this extreme), on part of the HOn3 portion of the layout. The rolling stock looked awesome wobbling about, however the small steam would stall and derail.  Don't try this, please continue to strive for decent track laying. Our locos rely on electrical PU, as well as some quite finicky pieces derailing on otherwise decent track.

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Posted by cacole on Monday, January 12, 2015 2:39 PM

There are videos on Youtube of this train, the Maumee and Western (MAW), creeping along at idle speed of the locomotive.  It's not a case of the telephoto distortion making it look bad, it really is that bad when seen up close.

I don't understand why the FRA hasn't revoked their operating permit.

 

 

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Posted by Fergmiester on Monday, January 12, 2015 2:05 PM

No doubt, but none the less the track is deplorable condition and looks very spongy to me. If you were going to model this I think you'ld actually have to use some sponge as ballast. Wonder if its been done before?

 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, January 12, 2015 11:55 AM

It looks alot worse than it is due to the effects of a long telephoto lense compressing the distance and greatly emphasizing the irregularities.  Call it special effects of photography.

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Worried about "How perfect and Straight" your track is? You won't after watching this!
Posted by Fergmiester on Monday, January 12, 2015 11:54 AM

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959

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