Quick Question: Herpa MACK CH603 Truck (Tractor)

[chutton01]

I have three of these I purchased several years ago - finally got around to painting and assembled them - except I can't find the blasted Bulldogs for the hood. I'll be honest - I did take apart the kits, and put them in a box several years ago, so perhaps the bulldogs disappeared. I thought they would be in the same plastic pack holding the chromed parts (mirrors, horns, handrails) - but they weren't - There was one odd sprue in each package - a small circle labeled 'J', with an thin extension - but, alas, no bulldog at the end of it.
So, first to put my mind at else - did Herpa skimp out on me with these models (much like Boley and the first release of it's IH flatbed tow truck - 'Oh yeah, we forgot to add the warning light bar', or Atlas and the first release of it's Ford F150 - 'Oh yeah, we forgot to add the side mirrors', or did I simply manage to lose all 3 Bulldogs (which is very possible with me).
Second, were can I find replacement Bulldogs? Plano model has the Mack Grills (with Mack Lettering), but I didn't see (scale) Bulldogs for sale anyway on their site.

[chutton01]

I will now take my one 'Night-time bump'

[ericsp]

I have one Con-Cor (which I believe is made by Herpa) that I bought about a decade ago. There is no bulldog on it. However, since I have had it so long (and moved a couple of times), it may have fallen off.

[jrbarney]

Chutton01,
Someone at the 1/87 Vehicle Club:
http://www.1-87vehicles.org
might have an answer. Have you looked there ?
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

[chutton01]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jrbarney

Chutton01,
Someone at the 1/87 Vehicle Club:
http://www.1-87vehicles.org
might have an answer. Have you looked there ?
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

Actually, that site's what brought this back to my mind recently, after I checked out the rather nice Green Mack CH Tri-Axle Cement Mixer (with Bulldog, of course) from Photo Gallery 226 (I see that they have gotten back to frequent updates - things were a little wobbly after the beginning of the month crash).
I am not a member of the club, nor not really able to join right now (in the future, perhaps - I am a big vehicle modeler), and so I haven't found a forum or such to pose these questions (of which I have had several, since sometimes the photo captions are just teases - like the Fire Chief's limo in gallery 225 from a 'K-mart toy' - strip off the paint, get rid of those ugly roof racks, a little body work, and blamo - some darn good limo models (if scale))
Hmmm, Actually, let me check if they have a yahoo or usenet group...

[Anonymous]

Maybe they're just being prototypically accurate. Around here, on the 1:1 models, the bulldogs disappear a lot.

[Allen Jenkins]

Herpa, offered a CH613, conventional Mack tractor, with about a 185" wheel base, and disk wheels, and need so much to re-release this unit!
Damn a bunch of short wheel base tractors, I would like to think more of the lugury of a good ride!

[chutton01]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Allen Jenkins

Herpa, offered a CH613, conventional Mack tractor, with about a 185" wheel base, and disk wheels, and need so much to re-release this unit!
Damn a bunch of short wheel base tractors, I would like to think more of the lugury of a good ride!

Is this the long wheel base model you are talking about : http://www.1-87vehicles.org/Photo33/mack_ch_&_triples.php. I have 1 of the long wheel base, and two of the short wheel base ones - however, to my untrained eye it looks like the short wheel base (albiet still with duel rear tractor axles, but sans sleeper) is far and away the most common prototype in these parts (NY-NJ tri-state area). Also, I noticed that aluminum (or maybe it's really stainless steel) is the most common surface for the fuel tanks and bumpers, far surpassing the chrome you see on the model (the chrome comes off easy from the model parts using E-Z Liftoff, and then a quick spray of alumimum, touch up the bumper hooks w/rust and the tank bands with black, and bango - 80% of all Mack CHs I've seen around these parts). Note, metallic black for the Hood vents is pretty common too. Sorry Bobchuck, but in my experience, even in the worst areas of New Jersey and New York, almost all the Mack CHs still had their bulldogs.
Hmmm, that picture also seems to confirm my fears that Herpa just shorted me the bulldogs (since the modeler John Scull doesn't have one either), the same way that Atlas did on the pickup and Boley did on the flatbed tow vehicle (grrr) - now I'll probably have to buy a promotex CH, pry off the bulldog, make some resin copies, and chrome them (double grrr). [:(!]

[Allen Jenkins]

I remember, when drivers would drill the eyeballs out of the dog, and install twelve volt lightbulbs, and set fake diamonds in the sockets.
I've had Mack fever, since I was three.
Practically every part on most Mack Trucks, is made in USA. Find any imported part, and you've done something. Made in USA.
The five "Christain Mack brothers," started the biz a hundred years ago. I guess prayer works.
Some people, think the spoke wheels(Dayton), are stronger, however disk wheels rule.
Specifically ten stud hub pilot mounted, lighter, lower cost, a better clamp.
You may see an "R" model with a sag at the back of the cab? Time to replace the plastic valve that controls the airbag.
The CH613, has a sleeper, and could have had it added on, however I liked the non-sleeper version.
Speeking of Mack? What about the F-model, or the H-63, or H-67? They arn't seen much today, because they had a triplex fifteen , or a quadri-plex, twenty speed, both of which had two overdrive gears. They would outrun a Greyhound Super Scenicruser, which had the Series 71V8, or V12, with a four speed.
I'd have to buy a few.

[Anonymous]

Hello guys,
I am a regular participant with the 1/87 Vehicle group. I have had several photos of my vehicles posted in the club galleries.
http://www.1-87vehicles.org/photo_index/index_jbohannon.php

Anyways to get to your question. No I do not believe Herpa has ever provided Bulldogs with the Mack CH613. Alloy Forms makes the Bulldogs we typically use for our Mack models. Walthers #119-3176

If you have any questions involving vehicle modeling, please feel free to join the group's yahoo group: 87scalecars
The group is fill of great, knowledgable people.
-Joe Bohannon

[jrbarney]

Chutton01,
The Alloy Forms Web site URL is:
http://www.jaksind.com
Here's a link for HO scale Mack bulldogs:
http://66.241.223.134/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AF3065&Category_Code=AF1300&Product_Count=28
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

[chutton01]

QUOTE: Originally posted by trrrceo

Hello guys,
I am a regular participant with the 1/87 Vehicle group. I have had several photos of my vehicles posted in the club galleries.
http://www.1-87vehicles.org/photo_index/index_jbohannon.php

Anyways to get to your question. No I do not believe Herpa has ever provided Bulldogs with the Mack CH613. Alloy Forms makes the Bulldogs we typically use for our Mack models. Walthers #119-3176

If you have any questions involving vehicle modeling, please feel free to join the group's yahoo group: 87scalecars
The group is fill of great, knowledgable people.
-Joe Bohannon

Aha, I was searching for the group under 1/87 and such derivates (1:87 1-87 etc.) - no wonder I didn't find it. Cool, I'll have to join that group using one of my yahoo IDs (first question, oddly enough, will be directed to Jack Mangrum, if he's in the yahoo group - where the heck did he get that Lincoln Limo model in gallery 223! [well, yes, K-Mart - but the K-marts around these parts are fading memories - what toy manufacturer? [Kinsmart?] - if they're anywhere near HO scale as they appear in that photo I could use 4 or 5 for a typical light industry zone lineside limo garage).
And to those suggestion use Herpa didn't supply bulldogs, and to use Alloy Forms - well, that's good enough for me - I'll order a pack (6 bulldogs) through my LHS, and I guess that will offically close out this thread - thanks to all...

(Now, when they introduce Mack 'New Vision' Cabs...) [^]

[Anonymous]

Bob,
Thanks for the correct part number for the package of just bulldogs. I knew there was one, but didn't remember the p/n. Well good to know that everyone's got Dog's for their Mack's now.

Chutton,
The Limo is made for the TV series "Monster Garage". I have seen the same toy at Wal-mart. In my opinion the Limo is too big to be remotely close to HO. Sorry but don't know the manufacturer.

As for Mack Visions, there is an HO scale model out there. It is in Resin, and is considered "craftsman"... They build out very nice, and you can see some examples in the galleries. The company that makes them is Masterbilt Models. http://www.masterbiltmodels.com Word of caution, they are a bit pricey...

To get a great idea of what vehicle models/parts are available, check out truckstopmodels.com as a source for your modeling needs.

-Joe Bohannon