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Bachmann new item 2014 announced
Posted by vsmith on Friday, July 18, 2014 1:41 PM

http://www.bachmannindustriesinc.com/pdf/NMRA_2014.pdf

For myself there is two things of interest, Jack and Squat. Being in large scale I was hoping for more than just one reissue, oh well. For HO and N I'll let you guys hash out how good the pickings are.

BTW ...Notice which scale has been completely stiffed this year?

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Posted by mlehman on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:07 PM

No updated 70-tonner?Sad

No factory HOn3 70-tonner?SadWink

I see PETA has finally arranged for windows in stockcars. Now that's a humane idea. Looks like fun until you're about 13 yoConfused

The HO Pullmans look like they could be interesting once the pricing is adjusted. Anybody have any of those yet?

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Posted by vsmith on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:20 PM

OMG those stock cars are ACTION cars, the horses heads pop in and out like the old Lionel stuff from the 50's!  I didnt notice that, thats a bit cheesy even to me.

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Posted by Doughless on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:35 PM

I'm HO scale...modern era.

I don't like it when I read people complain about prices....here we go.....but......

A single stall resin engine house with a MSRP of......$159. 

Golly, I'm thinking that's a misprint.

There comes a point where settling for painting and detailing and old shoe box makes a lot of sense.

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Posted by vsmith on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:44 PM

Doughless

I'm HO scale...modern era.

I don't like it when I read people complain about prices....here we go.....but......

A single stall resin engine house with a MSRP of......$159. 

Golly, I'm thinking that's a misprint.

There comes a point where settling for painting and decaling and old shoe box makes a lot of sense.

 

Look at the MSRP on the 4-4-0 Americans, $300??? really? Even at a street price of $150 thats going to be a hard pill to swallow. Its getting silly these prices, I can remember when you could get that for under $70. its all the elctronics being added in, costs the MFR a few cents so they can jack up the price.

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Posted by GP-9_Man11786 on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:58 PM

I was really expecting to se an N Scale K4 pacific in there since I just sent my old Minitrix off to be repowered. That's usualy how it works. But the Berkshire model has me drooling. 

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Posted by Geared Steam on Friday, July 18, 2014 3:35 PM

I'm glad to see the 2 truck Climax re-released, the 2-8-2 sound value steamer,  the 4-4-0 with sound surprised me, although it's not in my era.

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Posted by ALEX WARSHAL on Friday, July 18, 2014 5:11 PM
I like the HO steam locos, but $109 for a switch tower and $99 for a water tower.... gosh!

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Posted by snjroy on Friday, July 18, 2014 5:31 PM

Yes, the HO steamers are interesting choices. I wonder how different the Climax will be from the one produced in the past. I also wonder if we can fix the old ones with parts from this new model.

 

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Posted by Geared Steam on Friday, July 18, 2014 9:55 PM

snjroy

Yes, the HO steamers are interesting choices. I wonder how different the Climax will be from the one produced in the past. I also wonder if we can fix the old ones with parts from this new model.

 

Simon

 

yes you can , and have been able to for awhile

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Posted by gmcrail on Friday, July 18, 2014 11:48 PM

It'll be interesting to see what the street prices are in a year or so....

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Posted by rogertra on Saturday, July 19, 2014 12:32 AM

Bachmann flex track $8.00 for a 36" length and it's code 100 into the bargain.?????

For $8.00 I'd expect scale rail, spike head details, tie plates, ties not all at 90 degrees to the centre line just like the prototype and ties that look like weather wood, not your usual shiney plastic brown.

And nobody yet gives us all those details.  :(

Not even the top of the line flex tracl manufacturers.  

 

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:37 AM

NP SD45's with a suggested price of 250... I can pretty much assure myself I can get them for less. just like them IM F units that are coming up.

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Posted by azrail on Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:57 AM

The resin buildings are from Bachmann UK and are actually OO scale

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Posted by alexstan on Saturday, July 19, 2014 2:54 AM

Pretty overpriced in my opinion. Although the Berk in N scale and the HO mikados sound interesting and tempting.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, July 19, 2014 3:03 AM

rogertra
Bachmann flex track $8.00 for a 36" length and it's code 100 into the bargain.?????

Try not to laugh to hard but,according to Atlas C100 outsells C83 .

Did you notice the first restock from Atlas was C100?

 

Either way I'll stick with my Micro Engineering flex track and Peco switches.

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Posted by steemtrayn on Saturday, July 19, 2014 4:49 AM

Oooboy... Another USRA Mikado! Yippieeee!!!

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:46 AM

steemtrayn

Oooboy... Another USRA Mikado! Yippieeee!!!

 

Looks like the one Athearn made in their Genesis line several years back or the older made done AHM/Rivarossi.

I checked Athearn webb page and the only thing I found was the tender.

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:37 AM

pathetic thread.  Really.

Don't we have better things to do than whine and complain like school children?

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Posted by sandusky on Saturday, July 19, 2014 9:26 AM
Nope....
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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Saturday, July 19, 2014 9:56 AM

No new SD40's? oh well, there's still a lot of cool stuff.

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Posted by Geared Steam on Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:33 AM

sandusky
Nope....
 

Laugh

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Posted by kbkchooch on Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:44 AM

CTValleyRR

pathetic thread.  Really.

Don't we have better things to do than whine and complain like school children?

 

Nope, not unless I feel a burning desire to go cut the grass, which I don't.

But seriously, the prices Bachmann  for any of these products is rediculous.  There is no way I'd buy anything from Bachman anywhere near MSRP.  Its not that good!  Look at the GP40 with an MSRP of $204.00.  I'd rather buy an Atlas. Yes, the MSRP is higher (street price is lower on both) But the Atlas is made better, and parts can be ordered readily. Too many folks send their engines off to Bachmann only to get something else in return! That's bovine excrement!  Oh and look carefully at the Bachmann ad in MR featuring the GP40. The wheels are on the truck, the truck is on the track, but the side frame of the truck is crooked! Is that worth $209.00??? 

I'm done with Bachmann,,,they have gottten too big for there briches!

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Posted by vsmith on Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:55 AM

CTValleyRR

pathetic thread.  Really.

Don't we have better things to do than whine and complain like school children?

 

Then why are you bothering to post a replyCrying, seriously are you intentionally attempting to stir the pot to get it locked or something. If you dont like it, no one is forcing you to read or participate. Move on.

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Posted by vsmith on Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:58 AM

azrail

The resin buildings are from Bachmann UK and are actually OO scale

 

I'm very surprised they are offering resin. Resin casts are very expensive compared to styrene injection because the molds usually have a much shorter casting life and as such they have much shorter production runs. Styrene molds can be used for years to make large volume runs which helps keeps their prices down. I wonder if they are trying to sell leftover stock for stuff the Brits wouldn't buy.

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Posted by mlehman on Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:56 PM

rogertra

Bachmann flex track $8.00 for a 36" length and it's code 100 into the bargain.?????

For $8.00 I'd expect scale rail, spike head details, tie plates, ties not all at 90 degrees to the centre line just like the prototype and ties that look like weather wood, not your usual shiney plastic brown.

And nobody yet gives us all those details.  :(

Not even the top of the line flex tracl manufacturers.  

 

 

Weathered ME is good enough for me and meets most of your requirements. Now if they'd just get that darn HOn3 flex track mold fixed...

 

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I wonder if they are trying to sell leftover stock for stuff the Brits wouldn't buy.

Well, it's not leftover stock here, yet. Yes, pricey, but it's the kind of high quality stuff the Europeans get because they're probably a bit less obsessed with absolute cheapest. I can get a high quality Liliput RTR narrowgauge diesel for about $150. The pendulum on costs swings back and forth.

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, July 19, 2014 2:42 PM

rogertra

Bachmann flex track $8.00 for a 36" length and it's code 100 into the bargain.?????

For $8.00 I'd expect scale rail, spike head details, tie plates, ties not all at 90 degrees to the centre line just like the prototype and ties that look like weather wood, not your usual shiney plastic brown.

And nobody yet gives us all those details.  :(

Not even the top of the line flex tracl manufacturers.  

 

 

 Wow, that's even more than the MRSP for Atlas Code 83. Nearly DOUBLE the price per piece from Modeltrainstuff. Either Bachmann is nuts or they are now going to play the Walters game with MSRP, and you'll be able to pick that track up anywhere for $3.50 a stick at street prices. Then you'll have the shops who price everything at full MSRP who will then compain that no one is in to trains any more, the stuff doesn't sell.

 Even Peco track is cheaper than that.

 

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Posted by Geared Steam on Saturday, July 19, 2014 2:56 PM

kbkchooch

  But seriously, the prices Bachmann  for any of these products is rediculous.  

No one pays retail list, unless your not savvy enough to perform a web search on the product you want. 

kbkchooch

 Too many folks send their engines off to Bachmann only to get something else in return! That's bovine excrement!  

In cases where the product was discontinued, and you cannot/will not order parts and repair it yourself, then yes, they replace it with something of equal or higher value. My suggestion is to learn to repair them yourself, it's not that hard, with help from the forum(s) and by the way, Bachmann has an excellent spare parts website located HERE.   Lets face it, everything will need to be repaired eventually.

I'm not really concerned if you purchase Atlas or Bachmann, I just wanted to clear up the half truths in your post.
 
 

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Posted by markie97 on Saturday, July 19, 2014 3:25 PM

I do not understand coming out with another light mikado and NKP berk. I would think there are so many "new" engines that have not yet been produced, like a decent camelback. Or what about an older non USRA mikado or pacific. That being said, I assume they know their market.

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Posted by kbkchooch on Saturday, July 19, 2014 4:14 PM

Geared Steam

 . My suggestion is to learn to repair them yourself,

I do repair my own, and I'd much prefer to breath new life into an old cast metal or brass pice, than a Bachmann piece.

 Bachmann has an excellent spare parts website located HERE.    

I've talked to the folks a Bachmann before, rude, condecending and abrupt........took an act of Congress to get the needed parts for a new 2-8-0 a month after a full paint and detail job. There was no way I was gonna send my custom detailed loco into THEM!  If it ever blows another motor (And tsunami) I'm going with something from A-Line. 

Lets face it, everything will need to be repaired eventually.

Well thats kind of a half truth there isn't it? WinkAfter all, I've got several old Athearn & Mantua engines that I have had since my youth that are still running with nothing more done than cleaning, lubrication and paint work. I'll bet I'm not the only one here either. Oh, and in some cases, I can even get new parts for some!Smile, Wink & Grin 

 
 
 

 

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