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Posted by elite194 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:56 AM

Check out this history I found on the E60CF...both Bachmann and GK made it and they are compared side by side with very interesting notes:

E60CF

 

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Posted by ndbprr on Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:17 AM
I don't think Bachman made an E60 CF. That was American GK and it used an Athearn blue box diesel mechanism and was a far better drive
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Posted by elite194 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:34 AM

I saw that in another forum and downloaded that data sheet (the Critter).  With the single traction tire axle this truck would be awesome at that.  This part is still listed in the current Bachmann catalog, but it's sold out.  At $10 each it has too many possibilities to pass up.  I sent a request to the parts department to find out if it would be coming back or discontinued, hopefully I'll hear tomorrow.  I went ahead and completely overhauled the motor even though it was brand new, the grease was caked and hard.  It runs very well and crosses snap turnouts without missing a beat.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, April 13, 2014 3:56 AM

g&gfan

 

 
tomikawaTT

You could build a 'critter' carbody around it and use it as a mini-switcher.

Somebody has done that quite recently in 1:1 scale.  I didn't keep the photo when I found it, and now I can't recall where I saw it (or even what I was searching for when I stumbled across it.)

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with 0-6-0T steam locos)

 

 

 

 

Chuck;

I think you're thinking of this: 

http://members.shaw.ca/tractivepower/index.html

 

Steve

Yup, that's the guilty party.  Looks like something a modeler would assemble from scrap box parts.

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Posted by g&gfan on Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:16 PM

tomikawaTT

You could build a 'critter' carbody around it and use it as a mini-switcher.

Somebody has done that quite recently in 1:1 scale.  I didn't keep the photo when I found it, and now I can't recall where I saw it (or even what I was searching for when I stumbled across it.)

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with 0-6-0T steam locos)

 

 

Chuck;

I think you're thinking of this: 

http://members.shaw.ca/tractivepower/index.html

 

Steve

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Posted by elite194 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:37 PM

When I first tried it I thought right away a critter would be cool, but then an evil plan formed to take two of these and put them in a Trainmaster Dummy that I have and make a new monster called the H40-66.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:25 PM

You could build a 'critter' carbody around it and use it as a mini-switcher.

Somebody has done that quite recently in 1:1 scale.  I didn't keep the photo when I found it, and now I can't recall where I saw it (or even what I was searching for when I stumbled across it.)

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with 0-6-0T steam locos)

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Posted by elite194 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 4:34 PM

Now I want one, so far hard to find though.  Not a thing on ebay or amazon for E60CF.  I am impressed with the performance of this truck.  Here is a page that has the historical data on all Bachmann Locomotives going way back, but specifically the E60CF

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, April 12, 2014 4:15 PM

 Since it's all spur gears, just leaving out the motor and any intermediate gears from an otherwise identical truck would make a perfectly good non-powered free rolling trailing truck, all ready for electrical pickup.

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Posted by elite194 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 4:01 PM

I think you nailed it, a 1979 Bachmann E60CP or and E60CF.  I found the data sheet for the E60CF and it clearly shows this truck in use.  What's odd is that it shows the rear truck as possible the same thing without electrical gear in it.  Very interesting.... here is a link to the data sheet stored on ISSUU  E60CF Instruction Sheet

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Posted by ndbprr on Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:20 PM
Could be from an E60CP. If so it wold be from an early release.
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Posted by elite194 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:19 PM

The side frames indicate a C30-7, but did Bachmann actually make this model with a pancake motor?

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Posted by G Paine on Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:16 PM

I have a Lima 0-4-0T that has a similar motor

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Posted by cacole on Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:06 PM

Tyco also made a truck with a pancake motor like this one, so it's hard to tell for sure whose this is.

 

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Identify this powered truck
Posted by elite194 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:48 PM

I got this on ebay and the description said it was made by Bachmann, but there isn't any markings that indicate who made it.  I'm not familiar with any Bachmann 6 axle pancake motor locomotives either.  The truck is actually quite nice, with all axles driven, 1 axle with traction tires.  The motor and its housing are an improvement over with the pancake motors that most everyone is familiar with from the 1980's.  Hopefully someone knows more about this and the history of it....

pancake motor with 3 axles

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