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Super Trees

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Posted by peahrens on Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:38 AM

Ed, thanks for making and sharing the video; great job!  I've got it in my favorites for when I get to that stage, maybe later this year (or next?).

Paul

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Posted by jacon12 on Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:22 AM

Curved/bent Supertrees have always been a problem for me.  The steam method looks very promising, better than soaking and hanging upside down with attached weights.

Thanks for the tip!

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Posted by freeway3 on Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:13 AM

Thanks for the kind words on my video.  I stumbled accross the steaming idea on Youtube, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1ppKkUJtHI

I didn't go so far as to adopt that modeler's hot glue method of building up the trunk thickness - although I think it's a great idea, just too much time per tree - but I did try the steaming technique, and it works well, and is very quick!

So many great resources out there...

Ed

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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:08 AM

ARTHILL

I have used them straight out of the box. Maybe I am missing something, but they seem to be fine, though they are brittle and do not take much abuse. Mine are only 5 or 6 years old, so I do not know how they will hold up after 20.

 

I use Woodland Scenics premium trees and so far never had a issue even after they been in storage for several years.I never glue these trees in their holes since I like to recycle items from one ISL to the next as much as I can.

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Posted by Doug from Michigan on Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:46 AM

Thanks for the tip on the steam straightening!  Very quick and alot less mess than dipping and drying.

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Posted by cowman on Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:42 PM

Ed,

Very nice video.  Might even get me to give Super Trees a try.

Thank you for sharing,

Richard

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:54 PM

Ed:

Excellent tutorial!

Thanks

Dave

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Posted by floridaflyer on Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:51 PM

Thanks freeway, am about to make some trees and your steam straighting method is just the ticket for

the concern I had about bent trees 

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Posted by markie97 on Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:44 PM

Nice video, Thank you.

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Posted by superbe on Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:31 PM

Ed,

Your video was very instructional.

MR video plus couldn't have done it better

Thanks for showing

Bob

 

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Posted by freeway3 on Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:57 PM

I don't use matte medium either, but as mentioned above, I think it's meant to serve two purposes - to make them a little less fragile, and to help straighten the natural curve.  I don't find them being fragile a problem, but the curve does have to be dealt with.  I do it with steam - very fast, and has lasted about 2 years for me.  I expect that if they haven't lost their shape in that time, it's unlikely they ever will.  You can see my method for building supertrees (very similar to Tony's), including steaming, in my video here:

http://www.basrr.blogspot.com/2013/10/supertrees-start-to-finish.html

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Posted by Mark R. on Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:58 PM

The soaking them in matte medium and hanging to dry is for straightening them. A lot of them have a curl to them and this process permanently straightens them out. It probably does aid as a preservative, but it's not a requirement.

Mark.

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Posted by ARTHILL on Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:32 PM

I have used them straight out of the box. Maybe I am missing something, but they seem to be fine, though they are brittle and do not take much abuse. Mine are only 5 or 6 years old, so I do not know how they will hold up after 20.

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Posted by markie97 on Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:42 AM

I have made Super Trees in the past and really like the results. However, the most time consuming part of the process is soaking them in matt medium and hanging to dry etc. In Tony Koesters article he does not include that step. I thought that it was needed to keep the trees from drying out and becoming crumbly. Any experience with this or comments?

Thank you,

Mark

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