QUOTE: The problem is that I will start one project, see another and say, "Oh, this won't take but a minute." So out comes more tools on and on and...
QUOTE: How about you? Do you have a plan for each of your work sessions?
QUOTE: Do you ...multi-task?
QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy QUOTE: Do you ...multi-task? I quit using buzz words like that when I retired. Reminded me too much of work. [(-D] Regards Ed Dang Nip it!.[:(!] I have been so good staying away from Buzz words. I too swore off them and political correctness when I retired. Well, guess I better call my support group. [;)][:D][:D] Rex "Blue Creek & Warrior Railways" http://www.railimages.com/gallery/rexheacock Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:00 AM Be it model railroading, working on antique cars or what ever,,, I always put my tools away and organize my work area at the end of the day. I've done this since I was a kid. It was drummed into me by my Father, Uncle and older Cousin. This definitely makes working on any project, long term or not, much more enjoyable!!!!! Reply Edit BRAKIE Member sinceOctober 2001 From: OH 17,574 posts Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:36 AM Never planned to much of anything in my life..[:D] I am a man that fully believes in simplicity.I work on one project at a time till its finished then move on to the next.. What tools I don't need on the project is place back in my tool box till needed again.[:D] Larry Conductor. Summerset Ry. "Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!" Reply n2mopac Member sinceFebruary 2001 From: El Dorado Springs, MO 1,519 posts Posted by n2mopac on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:16 AM I do not "plan" my work sessions except when I have a particular major project that needs specific planning. The one thing I do, however, is work to keep the layout area and workbench clean and organized. This helps me avoid incidents like you describe. Ron Owner and superintendant of the N scale Texas Colorado & Western Railway, a protolanced representaion of the BNSF from Fort Worth, TX through Wichita Falls TX and into Colorado. Check out the TC&WRy on at https://www.facebook.com/TCWRy Check out my MRR How-To YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/c/RonsTrainsNThings Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:32 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999 The way I see it is if I start planning everything, I'm takin it to seriously[:D]. I try to at least walk into the train room once a day, stand in the center of the room, look around and say "what was I doing the last time I was in here?" And if I remember, then I get to work. If not I usually come on here and kill some time until I do remember. And yes, I usually have 100 things half done. Dave I'm with Dave. In fact I thought this morning that I need to have a clening and organizing night. AND THEN, start back on my layout. Reply Edit cwclark Member sinceJanuary 2004 From: Crosby, Texas 3,660 posts Posted by cwclark on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:12 AM The secret is to be organized...after i'm done with a project, i return all my stuff back to it's proper place,clean uyp the mess, and vacuum the carpet....I have two sheets of plywood that i keep speciality tools on and a bunch of shelves for paints, spray bottles, styrene plastic, ect...and they always go back there after i've completed a job...it keeps the accidents to a dull roar and i can usually find what I'm looking for without the all out search party thing going down by trying to keep organized..Chuck[:D] Reply jwmurrayjr Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: US 517 posts Posted by jwmurrayjr on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:54 AM I use Microsoft Project. Just like at the office. We have about a dozen meetings before the session begins but are careful not to include anyone that will be involved in the real work.[:p] Once the work session begins and the skilled MRR workers start looking for something to do several of us manager-types make sure that the workers understand that we don't have time to "hold their hands" or answer questions about details. [:(!] We continue to have status meetings. Since we don't talk to the workers we have to make intuitive guesses on how the progress is going. But since we had a lot of meeting before the session started we can assume that the work is going according to our plan.[^] Usually at the end of the session the actual work done by the MRR guys doesn't really resemble the plan that we made, but that's because the workers usually couldn't find us to ask questions about things that they always think should have been in our original Statement of Work (SOW). [:(!] But everyone knows that the SOW is very hard to define accurately since we can be bothered with the workers in the pre-session meetings. They should know what to do anyway...without all that "hand holding."[:(] Anyway, once the work session is over I look at what the workers have accomplished. If the results are not very good I make sure that all the manager types know that we need to get some new workers. [^] If, as is sometimes the case, the workers have done some really neat things then I make sure that everyone knows that I was able, with a great deal of effort and self-sacrifice[8D], to make the workers follow the plan and in some cases actually do much of the work myself...or at least stay on the workers backs until they got it right.[:D] Sometimes we hear that the workers and old-time MRR guys think that we're taking too much credit for their efforts but it's pretty obvious that a bunch of guys that don't know how to use Microsoft Project couldn't have very good ideas about what needs to be done on a MRR layout. [V] For some reason they think that they can rely on their "years of experience" (That means that they are pretty old![:p]) and their knowledge of real railroading (They're always carping bout "realistic operation".) So, yes, I do plan our layout work sessions...but they aren't as much fun as the real projects that we run at the office (Or at least start.) . [:(] We planners can't seem to intimidate the MRR volunteers like we could if they were real employees. And they are a lot more likely to laugh and make fun of our plans.[:(!] Sometimes they just ignore the plan and do what they want to do. But that's good! That's when I get to take credit for the good stuff![:p][:)] Jim Murray The San Juan Southern RR Reply rexhea Member sinceJuly 2004 From: Southeast U.S.A. 851 posts Posted by rexhea on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:18 PM That's Good, Jim! Gads, that brings back horrible memories.[(-D][(-D] All right fellow MR's. Judging by this picture, do you really think I need to call a work stopage for general cleanup and re-organization. It might help with my Workman's Compensation insurance. This area is the assembly, paint shop, carpenter shop, maintenance, parts room, office, .............. REX [;)][:D] Rex "Blue Creek & Warrior Railways" http://www.railimages.com/gallery/rexheacock Reply jwmurrayjr Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: US 517 posts Posted by jwmurrayjr on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:35 PM FIRE![:0][:0] Rex, You've got a lot of great space there but it could use tidying up a bit. [:)] I could send you a plan.[}:)] Jim Murray The San Juan Southern RR Reply egmurphy Member sinceJanuary 2003 From: Mexico 2,629 posts Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:57 PM Geeez, Jim, put a warning symbol on your post or something. The flashbacks.... I can't take it..... Did we work at the same place??? [:D] I don't know what's so funny Rex, looks like a typical two car garage to me. Heck, you can actually see the floor, at least in a few places! I am jealous of the space though. Regards Ed The Rail Images Page of Ed Murphy "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay home." - James Michener Reply CBQ_Guy Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: North Central Illinois 1,458 posts Posted by CBQ_Guy on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:17 PM Yeah, the "plan" is stay focused on the job I started. If you notice something else that REALLY needs to be taken care of, unless it's an emergency, just write yourself a note. "Paul [Kossart] - The CB&Q Guy" [In Illinois] ~ Modeling the CB&Q and its fictional 'Illiniwek River-Subdivision-Branch Line' in the 1960's. ~ Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:22 PM OK. Who gave Rex a picture of my garage? Reply Edit rexhea Member sinceJuly 2004 From: Southeast U.S.A. 851 posts Posted by rexhea on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:38 PM Ok! Ok! I get the idea. Now you have the CEO on my back to have a major cleanup and re-organization. My hourly employees are threatening a walk-out. All I can hear is, "A clean work place is a safe work place." Yadda! Yadda! Yadda! (sorry Sienfield) I hereby declare: ITEM 1. I will start the cleanup tomorrow afternoon and have it done by Sunday evening. Well, I guess I could go ahead and finish painting the floor with Epoxy paint. I did half of it ...uh, last October[:I]. What the hey! I had to get started on the layout didn't I? ITEM 2. In the future, I will use self-discipline and put up my tools when finished with a job, clean up the area and try harder not to complete the big picture in one session. [:(] [:D][:D] REX Rex "Blue Creek & Warrior Railways" http://www.railimages.com/gallery/rexheacock Reply AggroJones Member sinceJuly 2002 From: California 3,722 posts Posted by AggroJones on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:52 PM Yes. I kinda have the work planned out what I'm supposed to accompli***hat day. A list. Most of the time I don't do every thing on the list. So it carries over to the next day. "Being misunderstood is the fate of all true geniuses" EXPERIMENTATION TO BRING INNOVATION http://community.webshots.com/album/288541251nntnEK?start=588 Reply DonaldAgne Member sinceJune 2003 From: Sagamihara, Japan 108 posts Posted by DonaldAgne on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:07 AM Since my layout is semi-portable (used to be completely portable, but as I get older and more decrepit, it's getting harder to move around the apartment[:(]) and I built it in the living on the weekends when the wife was out and about, my work sessions definitely had to be planned. I'd have to have the day's projects done, clean up my mess, and have the layout hanging back on the wall before she came home to make supper. Everything was fine until one day I poured Woodland Scenics' Instant Water (or something like that) in the pond and it didn't set up in time. Actually, it didn't set up for a couple days! Talk about hate and discontent[}:)] Don Agne Reply JPowell Member sinceJanuary 2002 From: Fairmount (Syracuse) NY 1,226 posts Posted by JPowell on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 2:07 PM I get a "to do" list going, and when I have the free time....usually weekends, I'll go into my basement and see what I can accomplish on the list. If nothing, then I look around and see if I need to add to the "to do" list. After I'm done w/ the days project(s), I'll tidy up, not usually put everything away, but organize and do some sweeping so the cat doesn't get into anything that might have accidentally spilled onto the floor, or any dust, pieces/parts, or whatever might happen to be down there. //signed// John Powell President / CEO CNY Transportation Corp (fictional) http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s303/nuts4sports34/ Hunter - When we met in January of 2000, you were just a 6 week old pup who walked his way into this heart of mine as the only runt in the litter who would come over to me. And today, I sit here and tell you I am sorry we had to put you down. It was the best thing for you and also the right thing to do. May you now rest in peace and comfort. Love, Dad. 8 June 2010 I love you and miss you Mom. Say hi to everyone up there for me. Rest in peace and comfort. Love, John. 29 March 2017 Reply darth9x9 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: US 665 posts Posted by darth9x9 on Thursday, September 30, 2004 8:43 PM I have plan the work sessions in order to get things done. If I don't, it just turns into a fat-chewing session and everyone sits around and gossips. Bill Carl (modeling Chessie and predecessors from 1973-1983) Member of Four County Society of Model Engineers NCE DCC Master Visit the FCSME at www.FCSME.org Modular railroading at its best! If it has an X in it, it sucks! And yes, I just had my modeler's license renewed last week! 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QUOTE: Do you ...multi-task? I quit using buzz words like that when I retired. Reminded me too much of work. [(-D] Regards Ed
Do you ...multi-task?
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
Owner and superintendant of the N scale Texas Colorado & Western Railway, a protolanced representaion of the BNSF from Fort Worth, TX through Wichita Falls TX and into Colorado.
Check out the TC&WRy on at https://www.facebook.com/TCWRy
Check out my MRR How-To YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/c/RonsTrainsNThings
QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999 The way I see it is if I start planning everything, I'm takin it to seriously[:D]. I try to at least walk into the train room once a day, stand in the center of the room, look around and say "what was I doing the last time I was in here?" And if I remember, then I get to work. If not I usually come on here and kill some time until I do remember. And yes, I usually have 100 things half done. Dave
Jim Murray The San Juan Southern RR
"Being misunderstood is the fate of all true geniuses"
EXPERIMENTATION TO BRING INNOVATION
http://community.webshots.com/album/288541251nntnEK?start=588
Don Agne
//signed// John Powell President / CEO CNY Transportation Corp (fictional)
http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s303/nuts4sports34/
Hunter - When we met in January of 2000, you were just a 6 week old pup who walked his way into this heart of mine as the only runt in the litter who would come over to me. And today, I sit here and tell you I am sorry we had to put you down. It was the best thing for you and also the right thing to do. May you now rest in peace and comfort. Love, Dad. 8 June 2010
I love you and miss you Mom. Say hi to everyone up there for me. Rest in peace and comfort. Love, John. 29 March 2017
Bill Carl (modeling Chessie and predecessors from 1973-1983) Member of Four County Society of Model Engineers NCE DCC Master Visit the FCSME at www.FCSME.org Modular railroading at its best! If it has an X in it, it sucks! And yes, I just had my modeler's license renewed last week!