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Union Pacific Theater Cars

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Monday, July 7, 2014 12:37 PM

Those sure turned out nicer than my attempt at creating a Pennsy theater car.  Nice job, And I will have to order that end and sides from that site...I am planning to do a creation of the Wheeling's car.

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Posted by MRH044 on Monday, July 7, 2014 12:30 PM

southern154
Where did you get the ends? I am looking to do NS' Buena Vista and Conrail's theater car too.
 

The theater ends are produced by Train Station Products. I modified the ends with bits of styrene and brass as can be seen in one of the pictures above. The kit from TSP includes the plastic theater end, the glass, and a piece of plastic that can be used as a roll up door, although I decided to build my own instead.

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Posted by southern154 on Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:40 PM
Where did you get the ends? I am looking to do NS' Buena Vista and Conrail's theater car too.
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Posted by upexcursionfan on Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:34 PM

Neither car was designed for mechanical track or right-of-way inspection when converted into the current configuration.  The term inspection is used loosely.  The only "inspection" is done by VIP's or shippers enjoying the view out the back of the train.  One or the other is quite frequently used on excursion runs or business specials.

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Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, September 15, 2013 6:47 PM

tatans

Are these cars for track inspection or actually stuck on the end of real trains?  just what is their purpose?

From what I can tell, these are usually on the back of excursion trains or employee specials.I don't believe they have any inspection equipment aboard.

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Posted by tatans on Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:30 PM

Are these cars for track inspection or actually stuck on the end of real trains?  just what is their purpose?

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Posted by upexcursionfan on Friday, September 13, 2013 7:59 PM

Really nice cars!

I also am modeling UP's Heritage Fleet, focusing first on the cars most used on public excursion runs.  16 cars have been completed so far, which have all been highly modified Walthers cars. I chose to tint the windows so you can't see the inside of the car.  Nice to see what they look like with people in them.

Will eventually get to both these cars you have modeled here (have a core already for the Fox River), but am starting to scratch build the water cars Jim Adams and Joe Jordan.

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Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:05 AM

And finally, the ends.

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Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:04 AM

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Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:01 AM

As far as the process of how to build the cars:

I started with two Walthers cars that would be the base for the new car. I detailed the underbody by adding Train Station Products details following prototype pictures.

Then I built the interior.

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Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:53 AM

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Posted by Hergy on Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:58 PM

Tinted windows would improve the realism immensely. Very nice models and I'm sure these didn't cost $500.

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Posted by BRVRR on Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:57 AM

I knew about the theater cars as I have seen them in several videos featuring UP 844 and 3985. I even looked into building one or the other as a part of our UP Excursion Consist to run with our Challenger, but I couldn't figure our where to start.

Thanks for the pictures and the idea. I would be interested in learning the source for the car sides as well as a tutorial on how your cars were built.

Great modeling! Truly outstanding models. Thanks for sharing.

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Posted by garr on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:39 PM

Boy, very nice models.

Could you share the supplier of the sides?

Thanks.

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Posted by river_eagle on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:20 PM
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Posted by MRH044 on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:36 PM

Thanks! These cars are HO scale.

Today, these cars do run with the steam excursions as well as may other specials. Here is a bit of history from UP's website:

http://www.up.com/cs/groups/public/documents/up_pdf_nativedocs/pdf_fox_river.pdf

http://www.up.com/cs/groups/public/documents/up_pdf_nativedocs/pdf_idaho.pdf

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Posted by UPinCT on Monday, August 19, 2013 6:57 PM

Great Job.  Just love them.  I do like the Idaho slightly better.

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Monday, August 19, 2013 12:49 PM

awesome cars, are these N or HO. 

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Posted by Motley on Monday, August 19, 2013 11:32 AM

Wow! That is really cool. And I didn't even know about the theatre cars. Do these run with the 844?

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Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:12 PM

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Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:10 PM

UPP 203 Idaho

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Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:08 PM

UPP 420 Fox River

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Union Pacific Theater Cars
Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:01 PM

Union Pacific has two theater inspection cars in its current heritage fleet of passenger cars. The 'Fox River' and 'Idaho' are produced in brass but no one produces the cars within my budget. After talking with an eBay member by the username of mrw87 after purchasing some decals, he told me he had a friend who was making car sides for the theater cars. I ordered one set for each car and here is the result.

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I took two Walthers sleeper cars to use for the framework. I tried to match the prototype underbody detail using Train Station Products parts. The roofs we detailed using plastic strips and brass pieces. The interior was kitbashed to match the drawings Union Pacific has on its website. The window ends were made using a Train Stations Products end, MV lenses, Details West headlights, and a scratch built end of train device.

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