B&O1952 I'm still trying to figure how Wallace and Davis (Bing Crosby, Danny Kaye) managed to take the Super Chief from Florida to Vermont!
I'm still trying to figure how Wallace and Davis (Bing Crosby, Danny Kaye) managed to take the Super Chief from Florida to Vermont!
Probably the same way that Cary Grant and Eva Marie Saint were able to take Espee's "San Joaquin Daylight" from South Dakota to New York City at the end of Alfred Hitchcock's NORTH BY NORTHWEST, lol!
Tom
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Wow. Great memories and what a kind thing for Mr. Moore to do. Just like something the real John Reid would've done.
The closest I got to chidhood celebrity was running into Clarbelle the clown from the Howdy Doody Show.
I'd rather it had been the Lone Ranger or Tonto...or Zorro! ;-)
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Capt. Grimek As a reader of the original juvenile novels, a Clayton Moore/Jay Silverheels fan for life, I'm bummed that this version is so bad. By the way, when that unspeakable horrible 1981 version came out, (I've heard but can't confirm) that Clayton Moore was legally forbidden to appear in his mask and outfit ever again. This seemed super-unfair and cruel.
As a reader of the original juvenile novels, a Clayton Moore/Jay Silverheels fan for life, I'm bummed that this version is so bad.
By the way, when that unspeakable horrible 1981 version came out, (I've heard but can't confirm) that Clayton Moore was legally forbidden to appear in his mask and outfit ever again. This seemed super-unfair and cruel.
Yes I remember when that happened. When the final judgment had been made - that the movie company owned the rights to the character, not Clayton Moore - Moore began appearing in specially made wrap-around sunglasses that looked a lot like the Lone Ranger's mask.
Clayton Moore had some connection with my area (Minneapolis - St.Paul) but I don't remember what exactly...had family here or something, he may have even lived here for a while in the 1960's. There was an "old west" themed restaurant out in the country (now it would be in the suburbs) that had a lot of western artifacts on display. He was friends with the owner and loaned him some stuff from his own collection. I remember going there with my Cub Scout troop in the late sixties and seeing his guns, holster, and outfit on display (and remember a drunk guy at the restaurant bar 'hitting' on our troop's "Den Mother".)
BTW when my sister's husband Ed was a kid - this would be maybe 1958? - Clayton Moore made a personal appearance here wearing his full "Lone Ranger" outfit. When he was talking to the kids, he asked Ed about his family, and Ed told him that his Dad had just died recently. When Moore heard this, he took off his gunbelt (filled with real silver bullets), removed the pearl-handle pistols, and gave the holster / gunbelt to Ed.
What I can never understand is why more people don't read reviews of films or have a favorite critic (that they almost always agree with) prior to deciding whether or not to see a movie.
The word was out over 2 years ago, that this movie would be from Tonto's perspective and that he'd be the "smart" one. I was a huge L.R. fan in the 50's and had my own mask and cap pistols and hat.
The original TV series actually used scripts from the even more original radio series, hence the verging on corny morality/morals these days anyway. I DO wish we had a bit more of that but watching the old shows makes me cringe as they are pretty preachy and obvious, but it was a more innocent time.
rottentomatoes.com had HORRIBLE ratings for this L.R. movie and the critics' (both professional and everyday folks) gave a lot of reasons why it was a ...train wreck.
I was very disappointed and was anxious to see this, but I'll wait for streaming and maybe even when it's finally "free". I had the same experience with "Man of Steel" (superman). The trailers for both movies looked GREAT! but...the same lame scripts, eardrum abusing explosions and a script that had an obvious satisfying place to end but went on for another hour anyway.
I sure wish they could do the L.R. and Tonto justice. They deserve to be a continuing legend.
Then there's "Green Lantern"..... :-0
Jim
wjstix Reminded me that there's a scene in the History Channel's "The Men Who Built America" where J.P. Morgan goes to visit Thomas Edison in the 1890's, and Edison has what appears to be a 1940's Lionel diecast steam locomotive (no tender) running on an oval of three-rail O-gauge tubular track. Joshua L. Cowen didn't start making trains til 1900, and I think didn't start making O-gauge trains until about 1915....
Reminded me that there's a scene in the History Channel's "The Men Who Built America" where J.P. Morgan goes to visit Thomas Edison in the 1890's, and Edison has what appears to be a 1940's Lionel diecast steam locomotive (no tender) running on an oval of three-rail O-gauge tubular track. Joshua L. Cowen didn't start making trains til 1900, and I think didn't start making O-gauge trains until about 1915....
And when anyone on that series traveled by train, they rode on everything from the Strasburg Railroad to Colorado narrow gauge, not to mention steaming through the British countryside.
Milepost 266.2 mononguy63 Clayton Moore, yes. Armie Hammer? Not so sure... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfpZsue5vas He was a lot better than Clinton Spillsbury (remember him?) That dude couldn't even ride a horse.
mononguy63 Clayton Moore, yes. Armie Hammer? Not so sure... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfpZsue5vas
Clayton Moore, yes. Armie Hammer? Not so sure...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfpZsue5vas
He was a lot better than Clinton Spillsbury (remember him?) That dude couldn't even ride a horse.
Holy mahone! I had completely forgotten that absolute pile of crap LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J83cMBUTad4
By this standard the Hammer/Depp version starts looking a whole lot better.
Have fun with your trains
NP2626 It's a movie, movies take liberties. Enjoy the movie; or, don't, your call. I thought it was exactly what it was made to be and that was Entertainment. And hey, it had trains in it!
It's a movie, movies take liberties. Enjoy the movie; or, don't, your call.
I thought it was exactly what it was made to be and that was Entertainment.
And hey, it had trains in it!
The wife and I went to see the movie last night and we really enjoyed it. Will watch it again when it comes out on DVD. Very Enteraining !
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cedarwoodron The only show which depicts trains (and minimally at that) in a normal and faithful context is Mad Men,
Maybe. But the show Heck on Wheels seems to do a reasonable job.
I'll a'sk the Spainish ex . The Lone Ranger!!!
farrellaa However, I thoroughly enjoyed it and it is too bad it didn't do better financially, most likely because few movie goers know who the Lone Ranger was. -Bob
-Bob
They had the same problem with the John Carter movie. But to be fair, that wasn't nearly as entertaining as The Lone Ranger.
vsmith
In the interest of fairness.
"Tonto" in Spanish refers to someone whose mental acuity is, at best, questionable and, at worst, non-existent.
Andre
I have been waiting for the movie since first seeing the previews for several reasons: 1- Jonny Depp as Tonto had to be the perfect role/actor; 2-I was a Lone Ranger fan as a kid in the 1950's, both on radio and later on TV (B&W). 3- Haven't see a western in years.
Aside from all the obvious 'flaws' already mentioned, my biggest disappointment was the Lone Ranger character being portrayed as a bumbling halfwit. Any of us that grew up with the 'real?' Lone Ranger knows he was far from that of what Armmie Hammer portrayed. However, I thoroughly enjoyed it and it is too bad it didn't do better financially, most likely because few movie goers know who the Lone Ranger was.
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tatans Now if John Wayne played the LR that would have made it believable, it's a movie folks.
Now if John Wayne played the LR that would have made it believable, it's a movie folks.
That would be like Gretsky curling.
Don't think so.
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cedarwoodronPerhaps the greatest sin of all is that, by seeing this movie, some kids will actually believe that the transcontinental railroad WAS built through Texas! Also, exactly what "electric power" was available for that model train, seeing as Edison did not invent the electric motor until the 1880s(?) and it was not miniaturized in any way. Weren't passenger and executive cars gas-lit in 1869? I saw it, willingly suspended my disbelief, but would gladly trade the experience for seeing Rio Bravo or How the West Was Won on the same large screen again! Cedarwoodron
You're giving audiences, especially young audiences, entirely too much credit regarding their comprehension, understanding, recall, and attention span.
cedarwoodronThat's the other problem with this "interpretation" of the Lone Ranger story. In the TV series, there was a ethos and moral system in place in each episode, as well as a weekly demonstration of how two very different individuals from different cultures were able to work together. Here, the movie distorts everything into a joke or a horrific tragedy at every turn, notwithstanding the abuse of railroad history. Clayton Moore represented the character in public appearances in the same light as the TV show was written. This guy- not so much! Cedarwoodron
And there is the difference, this was not a moral lesson for a 12 year old, it was an adult aimed, slighly dark, slighly off color action/comedy. Last I checked I'm an adult, not sure the grandchildren need to see this movied just yet.
Sheldon
I don't understand everyone's consternation over what was obviously intended to be a tongue 'n cheek movie, made, quite honestly, just for the fun of it (albeit, some very expensive fun).
Ray
Publicity tour by the Santa Fe?
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