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Posted by tomikawaTT on Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:33 AM

Hi, Crandell.

Those are telltales.  Remember a thread about them some time ago.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - no roof walks, no telltales)

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Posted by selector on Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:17 AM

What is the term the narrator uses for the items seen at both entrances to the tunnel through which the photographer road on the pilot of the locomotive?   I can't make it out.

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Posted by thebarnet on Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:37 AM

That video is really interesting awesome find the water pans bit is interesting chuck is Right about the speed and the water scoop being rased

In the UK British railways and few of the pre-nationalization Railway companies used trackpans and water scoops when a locomotive was approaching the pans the Guard(Conductor) would often ask passengers to shut the windows in the leading coach after the locomotive because when taken at the water would sometimes force the Plug out of the back of the tender.

British railways early  Diesel electrics locomotives had water scoops to take on water for there steam steam boilers 

Trains with water scoops were forbidden to pass the Royal train so as not to soak it 

(sorry this is bit of a tangent)

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Posted by "JaBear" on Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:29 AM

larak
Some time ago we had a thread about track pans.  Being unable to find that thread I am posting anew

Gidday Karl, is this the one you're thinking of???

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/p/214814/2359867.aspx

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:58 PM

I suspect the photographer was very close to the end of the track pans, and the scoop had already been raised.  When you first saw the loco, it was tossing a fair amount of water to the sides.

It was also traveling at a rather modest speed.  Toward the end of steam the Empire State Express would have had a Hudson with a centipede tender capable of emptying a track pan at 85 MPH - and throwing a lot more water to a lot greater distance.  Niagaras could do the same, as I have reason to remember.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with no track level enough for e track plan)

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Posted by zstripe on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:40 PM

LARAK,

Thanks for sharing,Karl,I also thought,it was interesting,especially the era.. Saw a couple,Camel Backs,pulling passenger cars..

Cheers,

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Track Pans
Posted by larak on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:21 PM

Some time ago we had a thread about track pans.  Being unable to find that thread I am posting anew.

This early Edison video https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EQzXCoQRbas shows track pans in use at 7:00 - end.    I was surprised at the low amount of spray.

I found the video interesting, perhaps because two of my local RRs are in it 1:30 - 3:16

Karl

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