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Franklin Mint HO Hudson -how do you remove boiler?

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Posted by Billwiz on Monday, December 13, 2021 7:31 PM

thomas81z
my franklin mint is just the old rivarossi with the mint stamped on it so i should be easy to opent up like a rivarossi

Not all of them were Rivs - there were a few other manufacturer's involved over the years.

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Posted by thomas81z on Sunday, December 12, 2021 7:34 PM

Billwiz

Just took a look at my Franklin Mint NY Central.  If I recall, I removed the pilot and trailing wheels, and there were screws that held it all together.  As I said before, I had to replace a gear, so I removed the gear plate as well.  

I did put the decoder in the tender.

 

 

my franklin mint is just the old rivarossi with the mint stamped on it

so i should be easy to opent up like a rivarossi

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Posted by gdelmoro on Sunday, December 12, 2021 6:45 AM

Billwiz

Just took a look at my Franklin Mint NY Central.  If I recall, I removed the pilot and trailing wheels, and there were screws that held it all together.  As I said before, I had to replace a gear, so I removed the gear plate as well.  

I did put the decoder in the tender.

 

 

great, ill give it a go.  Thank you. 

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Posted by Billwiz on Saturday, December 11, 2021 5:06 PM

Just took a look at my Franklin Mint NY Central.  If I recall, I removed the pilot and trailing wheels, and there were screws that held it all together.  As I said before, I had to replace a gear, so I removed the gear plate as well.  

I did put the decoder in the tender.

 

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Posted by Billwiz on Saturday, December 11, 2021 4:58 PM

I was given 2 of the Franklin Mint locos. One had a broken gear so I replaced it and the motor, then converted to DCC. This was a couple of years ago so give me some time to look it over 

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Posted by gdelmoro on Saturday, December 11, 2021 8:50 AM

Redvdub1, did you ever get an answer?  I have one of these I want to convert to DCC but can't figure out how to remove the locomotive boiler (shell).

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Posted by don7 on Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:32 PM

On many brass models the screw holding the pilot is a King Pin, which also holds the boiler in place.

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Posted by zstripe on Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:08 PM

It looks like you can,remove, the pilot truck,with one,screw and the trailing truck,, maybe once you do that,there may more to remove,that can't be seen, with them on,,,just a guess... Without having it in my fat hands,I can't tell..

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Posted by maxman on Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:56 PM

I think there might be a bottom view photo in the following link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Franklin-Mint-Precision-Models-HO-4-6-4-Hudson-J3-Steam-Engine-Tender-5405-/190820087977?nma=true&si=n7VklCbzJXHPJFcaKbDaXVSqCMI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557.

Is this what you have?  If so maybe someone could take a look at that and come up with a suggestion.  Possibly you have to remove the pilot and trailing truck and there are screws underneath?

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Posted by zstripe on Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:33 PM

Precision Models and Miniatures,, made that Model, for the Franklin MINT..It may have been a one time only deal..

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Posted by don7 on Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:14 PM

I tried the search and read some of the postings.

The Franklin Mint locomotive is most likely a Mantua(Tyco). Check with someone who has the Hudson model for instructions.

Or check the hoseeker site for Tyco.

http://hoseeker.net/mantuainstructions/mantua464hudsonpdinstrpg6.jpg

However, the shell of Tyco steamers were usually secured by a screw through the smokestack.

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Posted by Redvdub1 on Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:55 PM

Thanks..I did try that "Search the Community" function and got a lot of posts...as you had said.  I had seen them all before using Google search and they are essentially commentaries on how bad these engines were.  Nothing on how to tune them up.  But thanks for the response. 

I don't t think these engines were made by Mantua, Rivarorossi, or Bachman.  There is a "Precision Models" stamped underneath the Franklin MInt logo. 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:52 PM

Redvdub1
Does anyone know how to disassemble the engine (i.e. remove boiler from frame)?

It's easy!  Just let the water in the boiler get below the crown plate. You will have the whole thing all over the place in just a few minutes.

ROAR (from the OTHER side of the roundhouse)

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:25 PM

Here's another suggestion, which I just tried, and came up with over 70 posts, on the right side of the forum page, look for a search box that says: "Search the community".  Type Franklin Mint Locomotive, and see what you get.  This will give you any posts that have been done in this forum on Franklin Mint locos (along with a few others)  The "search this site" box at the top of the page doesn't work as good as the "Search the community" option.  I did it, and came up with over 70 posts, in years past, about Franklin Mint locomotives.  Maybe you can find some info in an older discussion from previous posts.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:59 PM

Just a suggestion, you might want to do some research as to who made this model for Franklin Mint. That might be the key to getting info on how its assembled, what models they may have made for other suppliers  that are similar, etc.  Chances are, it was made by a manufacturer that we all are familiar with.    I always thought they were for display, and weren't made to run,  so I was surprised to see you have one that is actually supposed to operate.  I guess you'll have to search the entire engine, look for something that may slip off, exposing screw heads, maybe the cab, or under the cab, or a cover that comes off the bottom. Like model diesel locos, on some brands, the fuel tank "slips" off, exposing screws.

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Franklin Mint HO Hudson -how do you remove boiler?
Posted by Redvdub1 on Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:33 PM

Our club (the Olde Newburgh Model RR) received a Franklin Mint  HO Hudson as a gift.  It "moves" but it "hippity hops" down the track.  I can't find any internet posting from anyone who ever "worked" these engines.  Does anyone know how to disassemble the engine (i.e. remove boiler from frame)?   The stack seems to be glued on and  no screw head is visible in the stack...unless they epoxied it to cover it.  Also..I see no obvious rear end screw attaching frame to boiler.  If I could get this baby apart I think I could get rid of the hippity hop and from a distance of 8 feet or more it's not too bad of a "looker".  Thanks for any help. 

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