Thanks, I downloaded it to my computer and will try it later.
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BroadwayLion The LION Tries Concrete.... And the actual concrete: And over at Smith-9th Street: and the actual station: ROAR
The LION Tries Concrete....
And the actual concrete:
And over at Smith-9th Street:
and the actual station:
Jacon, try using craft paints, I use both country tan and country gray. I use a dab of each color and just dip brush in both and paint. You get a combo of both colors that way, some times I use a make up sponge and dab on colors giving it a more uneven blotchy look. After it's dry, I give it a spray of flat finish, when that's dry, an A&I wash. Good luck,mh
The color I have in mind is similar to what Walther's has on the box of their street system. I've been mixing some color that I like and I took it outside, laid it on the box and photographed it. The left side of the sample is mixed a little warmer than the right side on purpose.
I was just talking to a friend that is a good modeler and he suggested that since I already have a base color painted on the street that is very much like floquils concrete color, simply get a spray can of light gray and , from a distance give it a light misting.... let it dry and if it isn't grayed enough repeat.
Sounds like a plan to me.
eaglescout Larry, Mentioned that in my first response yesterday.
Larry,
Mentioned that in my first response yesterday.
D'oh!
Sorry,that must have slip my mind..
I 'll call it a senior moment..
Larry
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And nobody mention location,age or if it was recently built(up to 5 years) and all that plays a part in the color of concrete.
Then how about the concrete silos,foundations etc that has been painted?
SCR
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Hello Why not try real concrete. I know this sounds silly but it might work. I have worked with concrete mostly driveways and sidewalks. And when we would clean up the tools there would be a grayish stain left. On the ground,grass,dirt. It would wash a way. I think if you mix some concrete powder with white glue and water as thick as paint it might work.
You might try a mortar mix its finer and no rocks. Non sanded tile grout might work it's really fine and comes in a lot of colors. Just thinking outside the box. Hope this helps Frank
jacon12 richhotrain jacon12 I truly appreciate all the replies and pictures. I guess I wouldn't worry so much about this particular painting job except for where it's located. I mean....., this street is right UP FRONT and about chest high on a man. If it were over in the back in a hard to see area I would probably have already painted it 'close enough' Jarrell Well, then, we obviously can't put your mind at ease. Your only alternative, in that case, is to experiment until you find the right color of concrete to suit your mind's eye. Rich What I'm saying is a person just has to settle on a color that comes close to what they see and remember and go with it.
richhotrain jacon12 I truly appreciate all the replies and pictures. I guess I wouldn't worry so much about this particular painting job except for where it's located. I mean....., this street is right UP FRONT and about chest high on a man. If it were over in the back in a hard to see area I would probably have already painted it 'close enough' Jarrell Well, then, we obviously can't put your mind at ease. Your only alternative, in that case, is to experiment until you find the right color of concrete to suit your mind's eye. Rich
jacon12 I truly appreciate all the replies and pictures. I guess I wouldn't worry so much about this particular painting job except for where it's located. I mean....., this street is right UP FRONT and about chest high on a man. If it were over in the back in a hard to see area I would probably have already painted it 'close enough' Jarrell
I truly appreciate all the replies and pictures. I guess I wouldn't worry so much about this particular painting job except for where it's located. I mean....., this street is right UP FRONT and about chest high on a man. If it were over in the back in a hard to see area I would probably have already painted it 'close enough'
Well, then, we obviously can't put your mind at ease. Your only alternative, in that case, is to experiment until you find the right color of concrete to suit your mind's eye.
Rich
LOL
That's what I'm saying.
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eaglescout Wow! Over 30 comments on the color of concrete. Guess that is about how many "shades of concrete" there are.
Wow! Over 30 comments on the color of concrete. Guess that is about how many "shades of concrete" there are.
wrumbel Last I went over with a large make-up brush with black power. Wayne
Last I went over with a large make-up brush with black power.
Wayne
Hopefully you kept a spare for your next big night out.
Rick Krall
Nice 'crete, Jarrell and Grampy.
Steve S
Hi Jarrell:
I'm just getting back into structures and have tried several colors for concrete.I stared with Rustoleum Camouflage tan as a base. Next I painted in streaks of Acrylic craft paint from Michaels; Craft Smart Suede. Last I went over with a large make-up brush with black power.
Had this same problem a year or so ago, got so upset I just started dabbing different colors on, got the look I was after but had to do a lot so I needed a formula. I started with a concrete color, then AI , then added some brown to the concrete color and dabbed it randomly, did the same with white and black plus concrete (not much black), AI and then random highlights dabbed of white and concrete mix with very little paint on the brush, dry brushing but with dabs. Experiment with some scrap first.
You say "potahto...." So many options, so little time!
I'm addressing the same issue as I try to optimize rock colors for my PA shortline--shades of gray which pose a similar challenge to reproducing concrete (which comes next). You might have a similar image, but here's a picture I took of a fresh concrete foundation to use as a guide for my turntable pit:
I also found this reference for reproducing gray in its many shades with artists acrylics:
http://lindacsmith.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-mix-grays-with-acrylic-paints
I just started to look through it, but my gut feel is that it'll be helpful.
Here's where I am so far in creating my rock:
I recognize this is a bit tangential, as I'm working with rocks and you're working with concrete. But it seems to me there's a lot of overlap, and hopefully this will be helpful.
Thats correct I was walking around here (Lower Manhattan) looking at the sidewalks during lunch today, there was so much color variation that I can safely say only one rule applies vary your colors fromsection to section.
Joe Staten Island West
Of course you can just use any color and say it is dyed concrete. Many people don't see it but many times electrical lines are buried using red concrete so if somebody digs it up they know they have found something bad.
I also remember when I was at Ohio State they placed new walks next to the old brick and died the concrete to match.
Rick J
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I use various colors for concrete. One of my favorites is Testors "Camouflage Gray" from their Model Master military paints. It has a brownish cast.
These styrene abutments were painted Testors Camouflage Gray, and have not been weathered.
The abutments and concrete piers under this steel trestle were painted the same color, but have since been weathered.
The silos at left were painted with something I picked up at Hobby Lobby or Michael's with their selection of spray cans. It was called "Stone Gray" and may have been from Design Master. It's a bit darker than the Testors color but also useful.
Scroll throuigh Lance Mindheim's site for techniques on building roads from stryrene. He uses various spray cans for asphalt and concrete and the results are quite convincing http://www.lancemindheim.com/progress_photos.htm .
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Jarrell, I believe I used recently purchased aged concrete with a wash of alcohol/India ink. DJ.
Grampy, those bottom three photos show the color I'm trying to achieve. To me personally that looks like concrete. Are those painted with the sand/aged concrete mix?
You know, all this reminds me of getting dressed to go to some formal occasion with my wife. I learned long ago to, after getting every thing together, the shirt, tie, pants socks etc. to ask her if it all goes together. Invariably she'll change one of them and say something about 'you must be a little color blind'.
Thanks for the photos and information!
Jarrell, I agree with you that concrete is a hard color to model due to so many variables. I've found that Polyscale's aged concrete color varies from one batch to another. The first bottle I bought was too orange. The next one was better. I've mixed some sand color to aged concrete, and weathering it seems to help, too. DJ.
Real concrete pad or right, styrene painted on left.
Painted styrene.
Hi,
This issue came up about 3 years ago when I was building the cornerstone coaling tower. I've got a number of concrete paints, from Pollyscale, Floquil, Testors, etc., and used them all alone or in combination.
The thing is, concrete is not a single color. Like dirt, rocks, grass, sky, and so on, the color can vary greatly. I find that there are two basic shades, however - grey and brown. Note that these are very faint shades of course. Some feel that concrete - ususally fresh - has a green tint, and I can't argue with that.
What it comes down to is for you to experiment and perhaps mix your own. I ended up doing that, for I just wasn't comfortable with what colors came out of the bottle. Soooo, play around with the colors and soon you will get to what works for you.
ENJOY !
Mobilman44
Living in southeast Texas, formerly modeling the "postwar" Santa Fe and Illinois Central
Rich, you're right. I have smaller parking lots and work areas around buildings that are concrete. See photo below.
I did these in 'aged concrete' and weathered to taste. No visitor has ever said anything about them not looking exactly right. In fact the only comment I've heard about it at all was from a visitor (not modeler) that was a little amazed that it was painted styrene.
jacon12 I know what you mean when you say concrete is not one color, and that is the problem. I'm beginning to think the secret is in getting as close as you can with a base color and the weathering makes the final difference. This has been the hardest color for me to come up with in all my model painting. Jarrell
I know what you mean when you say concrete is not one color, and that is the problem.
I'm beginning to think the secret is in getting as close as you can with a base color and the weathering makes the final difference.
This has been the hardest color for me to come up with in all my model painting.
The thing is, though, when the concrete is on the layout, who really challenges its color. Everyone who looks at it knows that it is concrete.