bend is on your left no matter what side, doesn't make sense though because locos stripes always were bent in the front of the loco.
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I just looked at 17 more pictures of BN green passenger cars. ALL had the bend to the left. The odds that all these cars just happened to be facing the right way, and the bend on the other side is really to the right is one chance in 4 billion.
THE BEND IS ON THE LEFT WHEN YOU FACE THE CAR SIDE.
Exceptions to this might be for observation cars (bit I don't think BN ever painted any of theirs in the green and white scheme) and for business cars. The 1975-1976 BN Annual has a section on BN business cars, and all of those had the bend at the FRONT of the car. Thus, on the right side, the bend would be on the right. This "bend to the front" concept appears to have been applied to business cars that had a rear platform, and also to track measuring car B-9 (which had windows on the end away from the bends). Interestingly, BN's dynamometer car B-10 had the more typical "bend-to-the-left".
For all other cars, see rule in all-caps above.
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7j43k 7j43k I s'pose it's possible that one or more BN cars were mispainted and looked like the car on the left. I'll ask on the BN list and see if anyone knows of an example. Ed It's been a couple of days and no takers. So it looks like there were no exceptions to the rule: The bend goes to the left when you are looking at the car side. Ed
7j43k I s'pose it's possible that one or more BN cars were mispainted and looked like the car on the left. I'll ask on the BN list and see if anyone knows of an example. Ed
I s'pose it's possible that one or more BN cars were mispainted and looked like the car on the left. I'll ask on the BN list and see if anyone knows of an example.
It's been a couple of days and no takers. So it looks like there were no exceptions to the rule:
The bend goes to the left when you are looking at the car side.
riogrande5761 7j43k Burlington Northern #24 to each their own... Quite true. I'll note that AFTER BN got out of the passenger business, they changed to the "non-bent" scheme: Ed Why it looks "wrong" to me (the bent stripe) is that it isn't a continuous line. Visually what looks "right" on a passenger trains, since a train is a long line, is a paint scheme which is hormonious or compatable with long, horizontal lines. Everyone has a right to like what they want, thats fine... I'm just guessing what looks "right" to the general population since there has been a historically wide spread consensus with things like this, which is why over the history or railroads, the trend for paint and design is one which favors the eye passing continuously along the "long axis" of the train - long continuous lines. Passenger trains nearly alwasy followed this visual pleasing effect. I haven't followed BN's passenger dealings. What passenger business was BN involved in after Amtrak took over most of the nations passenger service 1971? When did they get out of the business?
7j43k Burlington Northern #24 to each their own... Quite true. I'll note that AFTER BN got out of the passenger business, they changed to the "non-bent" scheme: Ed
Burlington Northern #24 to each their own...
to each their own...
Why it looks "wrong" to me (the bent stripe) is that it isn't a continuous line. Visually what looks "right" on a passenger trains, since a train is a long line, is a paint scheme which is hormonious or compatable with long, horizontal lines.
Everyone has a right to like what they want, thats fine... I'm just guessing what looks "right" to the general population since there has been a historically wide spread consensus with things like this, which is why over the history or railroads, the trend for paint and design is one which favors the eye passing continuously along the "long axis" of the train - long continuous lines. Passenger trains nearly alwasy followed this visual pleasing effect.
I haven't followed BN's passenger dealings. What passenger business was BN involved in after Amtrak took over most of the nations passenger service 1971? When did they get out of the business?
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yeah, that's what my CC domes have the non bent scheme.
Quite true. I'll note that AFTER BN got out of the passenger business, they changed to the "non-bent" scheme:
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to each their own I guess, I think they look cool plus I'd never seen them before until after I got my first couple con cor cars
I've got some photo's of those BN passenger cars in the 80's in my D&RGW books. I never cared for the stripe that bends down on one end, it looks confusing and wrong. Like a passenger car design gone wrong. Yuk.
7j43k My point was that it is VERY UNLIKELY that 15 random shots of BN passenger cars would ALL have the bend on the left unless the bend was to the left on both sides. Thus the car on the left would be incorrectly painted. For the other car, I would just run it with the seats facing forward. I s'pose it's possible that one or more BN cars were mispainted and looked like the car on the left. I'll ask on the BN list and see if anyone knows of an example. Ed
My point was that it is VERY UNLIKELY that 15 random shots of BN passenger cars would ALL have the bend on the left unless the bend was to the left on both sides. Thus the car on the left would be incorrectly painted. For the other car, I would just run it with the seats facing forward.
front engineer side bend is over here
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<---- direction seats are facing
front conductor side
Bend is over here.
hmmmm, a new dilemma which cars schemes are to prototype?
do you know which side of the car you're looking at in the picture? just out of curiosity, I'm sure I could swap the direction of the interior car so that it's closer to 1:1.
I just looked at pictures of 15 BN green and white passenger cars in my BN color guide. ALL had the bend-in-the-white to the left. So, I'm betting that the Con-cor is wrong.
yeah.
I brought this topic back up because I was comparing my con cors to someone else's Katos of which I hadn't owned yet a while back and I figured out why his cars stripes were in the other direction from mine.
I am sure that BNSF never gave a rip which way the cars were facing. The SEATS are supposed to face forward, but the seats can be rotated to face in either direction. AMTK does not like turning the seats, they would rather turn the whole car, I do not know if BNSF ever had such a policy, but it is likely that they did not since not all passenger terminals would have turning facilities, especially now that steam engines have gone bye-bye.
You must consider that as the great passenger routes faded into history, these cars could well have been used in commuter service, and would not have been able to be turned at such terminals. The conductor, or more likely the brakeman and or car-knocker would turn the seats if there were time. Otherwise the whole crew would pitch in to do it, or they would just leave have facing in each direction. As for the stripes, they would have to go whatever way they were pointed when it was time to leave.
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I have both cars by Con Cor and Kato, if you guys recall my thread asking about which way is forward dealing when with burlington northern cars. the con cor cars have the stripes going in the same direction on both sides, where as the Kato cars stripes are running in either direction.
the coach on the left is the con cor the engineers side(right) is up, the kato car is sitting on the conductors side(left).
the cars have been reversed, the face down side of the kato car is going in the same direction as the face side up stripe on the con cor car.
the cars are based off of two prototypes the con cor one is based off of GN's cars and the Katos are based off of UP's cars. the Kato cars look great but to apply the additional pieces you have to remove them from the sprue and snap them on(according to direction) that unfortunately not the case some of the parts had to be glued the antenna holders for the observation and diner cars were a pain to put in place especially on the diner which took a good 3 hours (6-9 pm). the Con cor cars are ready to go the schemes on both are Opaque the con cor cars have road numbers and names where as the Kato's carrry the BN road name and that's it. If neither the con cor or the Kato cars fit your tastes Intermountain is releasing 4 road numbers each to two different BN schemes, I've ordered one of the Silver and one of the Hockey stripe scheme. these will be released on May 31st.