You both must never look at Weekend Photo Fun, I am constantly posting pictures of the models I have done that serviced Toledo in the 60's and 70's, those included the NKP, DT&I, Wabash, D&TSL, and Ann Arbor as well as the biggies NYC, ,C&O, B&O, and PRR.
Rick Jesionowski
Rule 1: This is my railroad.
Rule 2: I make the rules.
Rule 3: Illuminating discussion of prototype history, equipment and operating practices is always welcome, but in the event of visitor-perceived anacronisms, detail descrepancies or operating errors, consult RULE 1!
well not for nothing, old timer here, been away a few years, returning to one of my favorite hobbies, but them odd ball train lines of days gone by, our local road names are my pride and joy, memories from my hometown of Butler, New Jersey, names such as "Susie Q" (Susquehanna), Lackawanna RR, Erie Lackawanna, Erie both steam and diesel, diesel electric....my layout is built on those as my model. I lived 30 minutes from Midtown, Manhattan so under my layout I do have a NYC subway system and don't cha know, my favorite line back in the day was "The Red Bird" subway trains, 1980's, yup even got that in HO....years ago I bought it, analog but I can convert it with no problem to DCC.....but those old time lines is what's up front and personal to my mind and heart, 76 years old and model HO, 1940's-1980's....happy railroading
I live on the east coast and have never been west of ohio but I model today's Union Pacific. For some reason I like the UP even though I have never seen a real UP train except in books and film.
I did Model the Penn Central on another layout many years ago but about 12-15 years ago I changed to UP and this being my last layout UP it is. Being 74 now most likely precludes me from starting another layout
Dave
PRR8259 Randy-- I historically have always loved the western roads, but I don't LIVE there. I love Reading because it went through my hometown of Montoursville, PA, and I love the green and yellow paint. I also love Lehigh Valley, L&HR, etc. So for me it's always been difficult to focus on just one of the local railroads. Then there's the unfortunate bankruptcy period for so many of them...which compared to roads like Santa Fe that were always pretty prosperous, with the long haul over relatively sparse terrain, can make the eastern roads hard to love at times, or at least makes the '70's a conflicted era for me. John
Randy--
I historically have always loved the western roads, but I don't LIVE there. I love Reading because it went through my hometown of Montoursville, PA, and I love the green and yellow paint. I also love Lehigh Valley, L&HR, etc.
So for me it's always been difficult to focus on just one of the local railroads.
Then there's the unfortunate bankruptcy period for so many of them...which compared to roads like Santa Fe that were always pretty prosperous, with the long haul over relatively sparse terrain, can make the eastern roads hard to love at times, or at least makes the '70's a conflicted era for me.
John
That is mainly why the 70's is an era I have very little interest in.
Sheldon
I used to think that - and always looked to dealers in other areas to try and find the Reading equipment they had to take since some manufactures don't allow dealers to completely cherry pick their road names, so if no one models the Reading out int he pacific Northwest, if anyone has the item in stock, it would be a dealer out there, even if all the local dealers are long sold out. Nope. While the percentages may shift, say 10% Reading modelers and 1% Santa Fe on the East coast, vs 10% Santa Fe and 1% Reading on the West coast, there still are enough to sell out anything made in a 'limited' quantity. So while "hometown favorites" may prevail in most areas, there still are people doing the others, for whatever reason - they just like it, they are originally from the region modeled, but have moves elsewhere, they visited the area and liked it (seems common with the Colorado narrow gauge roads), etc.
--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
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Holy zombie thread batman. Does raise a few thoughts though- It all depends on where you live. I have lived around the country and there are always "regional" railroad modelers. There are always those that have broad appeal Pensy, Santa Fe UP etc but the smaller roads were more regional in scope. In Oklahoma and the southwest there were always some MOPac modelers. (Our club scheme was even based on it) There were others there that did the Rock Island Katy etc. Frisco was big when I was in college in Missouri. In Indiana saw some that modeled the Monon- one hobby shop had an encap strictly of Monon stuff. Here in Virginia I have lost track of how many people have N&W 611 models but we have some that have a little bit of Virginian and for the more offbeat Atlantic and Danville. There are certainly some regional railroads that transcend regions such as the Rio Grande. (and I model it and the Colorado and southern in Virginia!)
These forums are really a tiny snapshot of the modeling community. We see a whole lot of posts from the same group of less than say a hundred or two hundred people. That small group of people's interests cannot possibly cover all the railroads out there. Even today the manufacturers are releasing new products, never previously available, such that modeling some of the "lesser known" railroads of yesterday is easier to do than ever before.
DoughlessI think the OP was merely observing that he was surprised that the railroads he mentioned don't seem to be modeled by people here on the forum.
I think you are right about the OP question. I thought he was calling these roadnames perculiar, but he was actually asking if people model these.
tatanssome are: Western Maryland, Boston & Albany, Western Pacific, B&O, Texas Pacific, Missouri Pacific, NKP, Reading, FEC, Wabash to name a few. My query is, does anyone out there model these specific lines?
The question is 8 years old.
I misunderstood it.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
Guess the OP never read any of my posts - just look at the tag line in my signature to see which railroad I model. Not to mention I also belong to a group where most of the members who have layouts at home ALSO model the Reading. And a well-features (in MR, MRP, and Great Model Railroads) local modeler used to to LNE and now does Reading (Jim Hertzog)
I think the OP was merely observing that he was surprised that the railroads he mentioned don't seem to be modeled by people here on the forum. Outside of Sheldon and his B&O, WM themed interest, I tend to agree with OP.
I don't see much conversation about MOPAC, NKP, SEABOARD, and most other railroads OP mentioned.
- Douglas
tatans Just a strange question, while checking a list of brass locomotives for sale, I noticed some great looking locomotives from long gone railroads, some are: Western Maryland, Boston & Albany, Western Pacific, B&O, Texas Pacific, Missouri Pacific, NKP, Reading, FEC, Wabash to name a few. My query is, does anyone out there model these specific lines? Posters never seem to mention any from the above list, I'm sure some must, but they must be in a minority, the U.S. had (has) a great many railroads as opposed to most other countries- - they seem to have one. Here in Canadaland we have two, would like to hear from people that model these specific railroads, I know there are lots of fictitious railroads out there, but does anyone model the older lines? I don't mean ODD in a derogatory manner.
Just a strange question, while checking a list of brass locomotives for sale, I noticed some great looking locomotives from long gone railroads, some are: Western Maryland, Boston & Albany, Western Pacific, B&O, Texas Pacific, Missouri Pacific, NKP, Reading, FEC, Wabash to name a few.
My query is, does anyone out there model these specific lines? Posters never seem to mention any from the above list, I'm sure some must, but they must be in a minority, the U.S. had (has) a great many railroads as opposed to most other countries- - they seem to have one. Here in Canadaland we have two, would like to hear from people that model these specific railroads, I know there are lots of fictitious railroads out there, but does anyone model the older lines?
I don't mean ODD in a derogatory manner.
Rich
Alton Junction
SeeYou190 ATLANTIC CENTRAL No offense to the OP, today or 8 years ago, but the original question just shows how some people live only in the present. Kind of like those "Odd Bands" people sometimes ask about. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Eagles. I thought B&O being listed in Odd Roadnames was very strange. The B&O has always been part of major roadname releases. -Kevin
ATLANTIC CENTRAL No offense to the OP, today or 8 years ago, but the original question just shows how some people live only in the present.
Kind of like those "Odd Bands" people sometimes ask about. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Eagles.
I thought B&O being listed in Odd Roadnames was very strange. The B&O has always been part of major roadname releases.
I must be odd in that respect too, I have nearly every record, yes vinyl record, from all three of those "odd" bands.
ATLANTIC CENTRALNo offense to the OP, today or 8 years ago, but the original question just shows how some people live only in the present.
And I model the WESTERN MARYLAND, B&O and C&O, back in the dark ages of 1954.
No offense to the OP, today or 8 years ago, but the original question just shows how some people live only in the present.
When I started in this hobby in 1968, B&O was on of the most popular roads to model, as marked by what was in MR, and by the products that were available.
Well, I model the Western Maryland and collect brass for the B&O, Pennsy, Virginian, Reading and Ma&Pa plus some other "odd" engines I happen to like.
oldline1
dknelson tatans Just a strange question, while checking a list of brass locomotives for sale, I noticed some great looking locomotives from long gone railroads, some are: Western Maryland, Boston & Albany, Western Pacific, B&O, Texas Pacific, Missouri Pacific, NKP, Reading, FEC, Wabash to name a few. My query is, does anyone out there model these specific lines? And by the way, back when I first started to pay attention to such things in the late 1960s, and well into the early 1980s and beyond, it was common to see freight cars going by with all those road names on them (even if the railroad such as the Nickle Plate had long since been absorbed - the rolling stock lived on with logos and names even if the reporting marks showed the new owner). Dave Nelson
tatans Just a strange question, while checking a list of brass locomotives for sale, I noticed some great looking locomotives from long gone railroads, some are: Western Maryland, Boston & Albany, Western Pacific, B&O, Texas Pacific, Missouri Pacific, NKP, Reading, FEC, Wabash to name a few. My query is, does anyone out there model these specific lines?
My query is, does anyone out there model these specific lines?
And by the way, back when I first started to pay attention to such things in the late 1960s, and well into the early 1980s and beyond, it was common to see freight cars going by with all those road names on them (even if the railroad such as the Nickle Plate had long since been absorbed - the rolling stock lived on with logos and names even if the reporting marks showed the new owner).
Dave Nelson
I remember in the mid 90's seeing an old PRR boxcar quietly rusting away on a weedy and overgrown siding. Looked like both had been forgotten long ago.
Unfortunately, it was before smart phones with cameras.
Paul
NittanyLionYou know, I've never seen an FEC layout.
I have seen a couple. No surprise there.
DoughlessBut if I was going to model a prototype, it would be the MOPAC. Have been a fan of that road since I was a kid.
I don't know which railroad I would model if I chose a prototype.
My gut says SEABOARD AIR LINE or SEABOARD COAST LINE, but I really do not know.
wjstix I guess it's appropriate for a thread to 'rise up from the dead' during Holloween season.
I guess it's appropriate for a thread to 'rise up from the dead' during Holloween season.
It got me.
I'm freelancing, too, but because I've set my layout in the late-'30s era, a lot of those now long-gone railroads show up regularly on my layout. That was one of the main reasons I opted for that timeframe.
Wayne
Not me, I'm a free lancer, bent towards modeling CSX and NS beacuse of the rolling stock and locos that might appear on the layout.
But if I was going to model a prototype, it would be the MOPAC. Have been a fan of that road since I was a kid.
Hi Dave,
I'm currently building a modular version Algoma Eastern's track in Little Current. The swingbridge will be the beginning and the tracks that lead behind where the Brewers Retail is today. Right now I am using a photograph of the swingbridge on the facia as a placeholder. I plan to eventually extend the layout in order to build the swing bridge. Before I get there I have lots of scratch building to do. I think it will be very structurally challenging but also a beautiful model if done right.
I'll chime in and say "Yes" to the above and add my $0.02. My plan right now is to model the FSUD out of Detroit, which will include the Pere Marquette, Pennsylvania, and the Wabash (not to mention the FSUD line with its NW5's) . Wabash is on that list and as Fritz alluded to earlier, the PM is even more obscure. Try finding a PM Pacific to haul a passenger train.
Somewhere along the line, I'm trying to figure if it's feasible to incorporate some NYC, Detroit, Toledo & Ironton, and Ann Arbor Railroad operations in the plan. I have some old photos of the DT&I using hand-me-down PRR locos and I thought how interesting it would be to incorporate those into the plan. As usual, I'm doubting I'll have the room.
Well, it will be a while until we are actually that far anyway.
Chris van der Heide
My Algoma Central Railway Modeling Blog
Chris
Sounds great! I totally understand the huge amount of layout space required to fully swing the Little Current swing bridge, even if it is compressed. How about adding just a small degree of swing to the bridge, just so it can be seen in motion? Then you could also model those (relatively few) occasions when the bridge got stuck open. That would certainly require your operators to scramble a bit!
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
If you are a constant participant on this forum, I'm sure you have seen, or will see, Western Maryland (Wild Mary) modlers frequent (OK, sometimes) contributions on line/ The WM Historical Society is alive and well , operating in Union Bridge, MD, and offering modles of WM equipment and other historically correct memorablia. I personally have 37 WM diesels, 7 WM steamers, and 164 WM cars (freight and Passenger) on my HO layout. JWH
I don't model the specific railroads you mention, but I include traffic from them on my Santa Fe layouts. I did Santa Fe in the piney woods of East Texas, and on Galveston Island, probably not scenes that come instantly to mind nwhen you mention Santa Fe.
I have designed MISSOURI PACIFIC layouts for people and put them on this and other boards.
Missouri Pacific in Austin, Texas in the 1950s-- N scale
Missouri Pacific in Austin, Texas in the 1970s- N scale
Missouri Pacific in San Antonio, Texas in the 1950s -HO scale
Don't know how many of these have been built.