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Keystone Pulpwood Car Conversion Kit

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Posted by FRRYKid on Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:18 AM

nypeterbilt379

I'm looking to do the same. Do they fit Athearn HO Scale 50' gondolas?

Henry

As said old post. I did use Athearn 50' cars for the two I built. What I ended up using for my dimensional data is this: CAPY 135000, LD LMT 137500, LT WT 63500. I don't exactly remember where I got those figures but I seem to think it was from a prototype picture of a dmir car. The class is GBS. The rest came from the lettering on the original Athearn gon itself. I even when so far to scratch built a pulpwood load for each car. (The first load got stuck in the car. Built it in the car without providing for a way to prevent it from sticking. Got it out but I had to glue the middle back together.) Purchased a NWSL Chopper for cutting all the logs. (Very good investment if you have to cut lots of pieces all the same size.) I seem to think it ended up somewhere between 100 and 200 pieces of dowel for the two loads. Stained the pieces with some pine Flo-stain to give them the look of pine.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:58 PM

HAH!  Got me, I guess! Stick out tongue

Maybe my links will be useful for Henry.

Wayne

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Posted by maxman on Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:40 PM

doctorwayne
FRRYKid, your link didn't work,

Probably because that link is in a post over 8 years old.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:04 PM

FRRYKid, your link didn't work, but if you click on this one, then scroll down about eight rows of drawings, the Keystone parts will show.

From the look of the sketches, any of the three options shown could be scratchbuilt fairly easily.

I modified a couple of Athearn 50' flatcars with bulkhead ends, left-over from some Walthers 53' GSC flatcars...mine are in lumber service, but could easlily accommodate pulpwood, too...

I removed the original deck and floor structure, to allow the cars to ride lower, then re-decked them...

I also had an Athearn 40' pulpwood car, and was going to get rid of it when I came across two similar cars, on the "used" table at a now-long-gone LHS.  At a buck or two each, I couldn't resist, and decided to make them into bulkhead-end gondolas, changing them, and my original one, into 50'-ers by adding a 10' long piece of .060" sheet styrene mid-deck.  The sides were scratchbuilt using .020" or .030" sheet styrene, with ribs made from .060" square strip...

FRRYKid
....What values would the reporting marks on these cars be (CAPY, LD LMT, LT WT, & (mainly) AAR car classification)?

I lettered the bulkhead flats as 50 ton capacity (probably could have been 70 tons), but apparently wasn't paying attention for the gondolas, which turned out to be 100 tonners.  A better choice, I think, would have been 70 tons.

EDIT:  Tichy offers a kit for a 40' pulpwood flat in their catalogue HERE (scroll down to page 12) and, right below it, there's a bulkhead-end gondola.
If you scroll down close to the bottom (page 58), the bulkhead ends are available in pairs,  Part #3064

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Posted by nypeterbilt379 on Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:19 PM

I'm looking to do the same. Do they fit Athearn HO Scale 50' gondolas? 

 

Henry 

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Keystone Pulpwood Car Conversion Kit
Posted by FRRYKid on Monday, April 9, 2012 12:14 AM
I was looking to modeling a pair of modified gondola using Keystone Locomotive Works' Pulpwood Car Conversion Kits -- Gondola, Low End, Solid Bulkhead kit (Walthers #395-53). Have any of you worked or modeled with this detail part? What values would the reporting marks on these cars be (CAPY, LD LMT, LT WT, & (mainly) AAR car classification)?
"The only stupid question is the unasked question."
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