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Posted by Kudlor on Friday, August 24, 2012 9:19 AM

Maybe no "conspiracy to deny access to Atlas track, more of a bad business plan on the part of Atlas.  They could have continued to produce track in the US while gearing up production in China.  Apparently, Atlas just chose to stop US production regardless of the length of time it was going to take to ramp up production in China. 

Maybe Atlas just thought we were all "chained" to their product and would wait 6 months or more for their track.  A few weeks back I just gave up on Atlas and have purchased around $1,000 of ME code 55 flex track and switches to start my new layout.

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Posted by maxman on Friday, August 24, 2012 9:08 AM

richhotrain

maxman

CSX_road_slug

 
Looked at these links.  According to the description, due to supply problems a buyer is limited to a purchase of quantity 2 boxes of an out of stock item.

More importantly, both items are "out of stock".

Rich

Yes, I know that it said "out of stock".  What I thought was ironic was that even though out of stock, one was still limited to a purchase of two.
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Posted by rrinker on Friday, August 24, 2012 6:52 AM

 They weren't when the link was first posted - the vultures descended!

Atlas posted on their web site about this, there's no secret conspiracy to deny access to flex track.

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, August 24, 2012 4:48 AM

maxman

CSX_road_slug

 
Looked at these links.  According to the description, due to supply problems a buyer is limited to a purchase of quantity 2 boxes of an out of stock item.

More importantly, both items are "out of stock".

Rich

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Posted by ho modern modeler on Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:11 PM

My LHS ran out a few months ago and told me all the wholesalers were tapped. I thought I was done laying track for a while, but apparently I came home last year one day with 9 pcs of flex and stuck them in a corner of the garage, so I'm good to go for a while.

Mine doesn't move.......it's at the station!!!

 

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Posted by maxman on Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:19 PM

CSX_road_slug

 
Looked at these links.  According to the description, due to supply problems a buyer is limited to a purchase of quantity 2 boxes of an out of stock item.
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Posted by Geared Steam on Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:08 PM

That's it fellows, he MRR hobby has officially ended.

Last one out turn off the light please. 

 Clown

Now excuse me while I list some flex track on Ebay.

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Posted by Kudlor on Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:44 PM

What I don't understand is why the staff and editorial staff at Model Railroader Magazine isn't reporting on this news story.  Cody and others apparently specak with Atlas representatives and management all the time, Yet they haven't reported ANYTHING on this issue to my knowledge.

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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:31 PM

 Guess I did not start a unfounded rumor after all.

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Posted by caldreamer on Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:17 PM

The last container update is 6/11/2012 and contains some N scale RS11's and some N and HO freight cars and trailers.  That is it.  Nothing after that.

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:03 PM

If this keeps up, the hobby will grind to a halt.

It seems like all of the U.S. manufacturers are changing production sources and locations in China.

Is anything being shipped back from overseas?

Rich

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:01 PM

Kudlor

Pretty shameful of Atlas to not keep their customer base informed about a major production change that will affect  the availability of their track in various scales and code for an extended period of time.  Very unprofessional of them.  

And Atlas printing a full page ad in every MRR magazine would have changed the siuation how?  If anything it would have made the shortage worse as people and profit seekers would have horded it.

 

 

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Posted by Kudlor on Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:16 PM

Pretty shameful of Atlas to not keep their customer base informed about a major production change that will affect  the availability of their track in various scales and code for an extended period of time.  Very unprofessional of them.  And too bad Cody didn't ask the Atlas representative at the national convention about this issue and include it in his video.

My main supplier said not to expect any new supply of Atlas track until the 1st of the year.

 

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Posted by caldreamer on Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:32 PM

This is NO rumor.   My LHS (Mainline Hobbies) are out of code 55 #5 and 7 switches and have only a couple of #10's and about 10 sections of flex track.  Bonnie told me that none of her suppliers have any and od not expect any until next year.  If Atlas is back on track and the new company meets Atlas standards for track then good, but until then I will not hold my breath.

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Posted by JeremyB on Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:18 PM

MisterBeasley

I discussed this with my LHS guy back in April when this thread started.  He confirmed the information that most of us had - there will be a shortage of Atlas track for several months.  His suppliers told him not to expect any before October.

I bought a few pieces from his remianing stock, which will hold me over for quite some time.



I was also talking to my LHS guy today and he said the same. Not to expect any until October even November. Im glad I stocked up last winter on track.

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Posted by EDZ on Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:10 AM

I heard this back in the spring, too, from my LHS guy that code 83 wouldn't be shipped until fall.  I bought track right then, figuring that if the estimate in April was for the fall, then Murphy's Law states it's probably going to be December, lol..

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:36 AM

I discussed this with my LHS guy back in April when this thread started.  He confirmed the information that most of us had - there will be a shortage of Atlas track for several months.  His suppliers told him not to expect any before October.

I bought a few pieces from his remianing stock, which will hold me over for quite some time.

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:17 AM

The problem seems to be a shortage of Atlas Code 83 flex track.

There seems to be plenty of Atlas Code 100 flex track.

Rich

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Posted by CSX_road_slug on Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:12 AM

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Posted by HaroldA on Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:52 AM

Well I will add my My 2 Cents to the rumor mill - and this comes from my LHS.  About a month ago I bought five pieces of Atlas code 100 and when I checked out, the guy said 'where did you find that?  We aren't supposed to get any more until the end of the year.'  I have been in there since, and they haven't had any in stock and 'can't get any from our supplier' for several months.  You have to understand, this is the same guy who said that 'old man Shinohara isn't making turnouts anymore.'  Funny thing, I can find sources for all these products.

So, if you are looking for it, MBK has 124 cases in stock..

There's never time to do it right, but always time to do it over.....

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:42 AM

This time around, even MB Klein is out of stock, at least regarding Code 83 flex track.

Rich

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Posted by mactier_hogger on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:41 PM

So....4 months later, still no Atlas flextrack! What's up??

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:36 AM

cacole

Instead of spreading an unfounded rumor, did you check the Atlas Model Railroad Company web site?  There's no mention there of any track shortage in any scale made by Atlas.

http://www.atlasrr.com/ 

That's a little harsh.

I was unaware of this issue until Ken raised it on this thread.  It is good to know for future planning.

Thanks, Ken, for letting us know about this shortage.

Rich

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Monday, April 9, 2012 10:09 PM

Never touch the stuff!

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, April 8, 2012 6:17 PM

 Average income of model railroaders was about that - in 1949, per the survey I just read in MR. Neat info in these old magazines. Haven't gotten up to 1968 yet.

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Posted by Milepost 266.2 on Sunday, April 8, 2012 5:27 PM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL

But $5.95 for a jar of paint does not seem bad to me at all. That seems right in line with 1968 when everything else was one tenth of todays prices - gas $.038, cars $3,000, houses $30,000, freight car kits $2, jar of model paint $.060.

 

And the average income was probably around $4,000 per year, if that.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Sunday, April 8, 2012 2:08 PM

locoi1sa

Good news for hand layers! But there are others around. Walthers/Shinnohara, ME, and Peco come to mind immediately. We still have plenty to choose from. What is really shocking to me is that 1 ounce bottle of RR color paint costing $5.95 !  Ouch that hurts !

        Pete

Personally, before I would pay the high prices of those other brands of track, I would go back to hand laying.

But $5.95 for a jar of paint does not seem bad to me at all. That seems right in line with 1968 when everything else was one tenth of todays prices - gas $.038, cars $3,000, houses $30,000, freight car kits $2, jar of model paint $.060.

And I took inventory, I have about 450 feet of Atlas code 83 flex - I can hold out until they make some more.

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Posted by Medina1128 on Sunday, April 8, 2012 12:30 PM

Stevert

Old news, and as others have noted not completely true.  Here's the explanation from Atlas about what's been going on.

I don't which parts aren't completely true, but here's what Paul Graf of Atlas had to say about it in Atlas' forum.

"In an effort to minimize price increases and improve availability long term, we are in the process of moving production of all of our products from the existing primary supplier to other suppliers. The majority of the rolling stock and locomotive tooling has been moved, and production of these items has been returning to normal levels. Track and accessory tooling is currently in the process of being moved, and there will likely be some disruption of the supply line, but we expect it to be measured in terms of months, not a year.





Paul Graf
Atlas Model Railroad Company"

Sounds like a disruption in track supply to me.

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Posted by locoi1sa on Sunday, April 8, 2012 12:18 PM

Good news for hand layers! But there are others around. Walthers/Shinnohara, ME, and Peco come to mind immediately. We still have plenty to choose from. What is really shocking to me is that 1 ounce bottle of RR color paint costing $5.95 !  Ouch that hurts !

        Pete

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, April 8, 2012 11:01 AM

The sky is falling!  The sky is falling!  Quick, everyone run to your basement.  Oh, right.  That's where we are already.

OK, everyone run to your workroom and start building your inventory of rolling stock and structure kits.  I could literally spend a year doing that alone.

But, thanks for the heads up.  I don't need track now, but I'll pick up a couple of pieces so I don't get caught short in a month or two when construction moves out that way.

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