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Norfolk Southerns First Heritage Unit

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:10 PM

Looks like something that would be at the head of a passenger special, with the exception that it is an ES44 frieght loco, and not an E6.

Also, isn't that the Southern's tuxido paint scheme?

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Posted by Milepost 266.2 on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:46 AM

Texas Zepher

I'm sorry.   I think the words heritage and Norfolk Southern have no business being thin the same time-zone let alone same sentence with each other.   This is a railroad that took two operating steam locomotives out of service and purposely destroyed critical parts so they could not be restored to operating condition again.   Lost all respect for them and  I sold all my stock in the company after that little manuver.

Some folks down in the Trains Magazine forum are talking about 611, and they seem to think it's in excellent condition.  Now I wouldn't be surprised if NS had filled the boiler tubes and cylinders with cement, but they seem to think that, apart from more stringent inspection standards, she's pretty much roadworthy.  

It is a shame NS sold off all the equipment that went with the program, but at least most of it went to a good home.  They would have to hire outside people for maintenance anyhow.  I've greatly enjoyed riding in the former N&W coaches at the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad in Cumberland.

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Posted by jacon12 on Monday, February 20, 2012 6:10 AM

 

John, I would not be terribly surprised to see some changes in the final versions either.  Just as I'm not sure where this poster came from.

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ReinhardtJH

 I think that's just someone's hopes.  The Trains release said that 10 would be EMD and 8 GE and the poster is all GE.  I wouldn't even be sure they've finalized the various paint schemes yet.

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Posted by ReinhardtJH on Monday, February 20, 2012 4:04 AM

 I think that's just someone's hopes.  The Trains release said that 10 would be EMD and 8 GE and the poster is all GE.  I wouldn't even be sure they've finalized the various paint schemes yet.

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Posted by tstage on Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:51 PM

Delighted to see that they'll be using the lightning stripe scheme for the NYC locomotive.  I would have been VERY disappointed seeing the cigar band. Dead

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:46 PM

UncBob

 Texas Zepher:

I'm sorry.   I think the words heritage and Norfolk Southern have no business being thin the same time-zone let alone same sentence with each other.   This is a railroad that took two operating steam locomotives out of service and purposely destroyed critical parts so they could not be restored to operating condition again.   Lost all respect for them and  I sold all my stock in the company after that little manuver.

 

Do you know the rational behind that action ?

Mostly becasuse there was some sort of accident and law suites such that the cost of insurance went way up.  Also related was the executive manager James A. Bistline who had been a strong supporter of the program had retired in 1987, so he wasn't around to support it to the board of directors.  Then the general cost of maintaining the 611 and 1218 were climbing.  So I can understand scaling back the program or gettting the locomotives into a place that deals with steamers like Steam Town, but to have the boiler tubes ripped out and shredded.   I just never understood.

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Posted by jacon12 on Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:17 PM

A friend sent me this today.

 

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Posted by THayman on Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:35 PM

jacon12

I think it's a very good Photoshop job because of the headlight placement.  NS has theirs up between the number boards and I believe KCS and UP *maybe* have them on the nose?

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Actually, NS is the only railway that has ordered GEVOs with headlights on the cab. Every other railroad has ordered both DC and AC versions with nose headlight only. The SD70ACe/M-2 series have had cab-headlights on several other railways as well, but not the GEs.

And as I said before, enough things have been changed on the new GEVOs such that any new order loco would have a lot of discrepancies from the one shown above.

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Posted by UncBob on Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:48 PM

Texas Zepher

I'm sorry.   I think the words heritage and Norfolk Southern have no business being thin the same time-zone let alone same sentence with each other.   This is a railroad that took two operating steam locomotives out of service and purposely destroyed critical parts so they could not be restored to operating condition again.   Lost all respect for them and  I sold all my stock in the company after that little manuver.

Do you know the rational behind that action ?

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Posted by tatans on Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:32 PM

I think it looks OK, are there any other railroads that plan to "heritage" their locomotives?

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:01 PM

I'm sorry.   I think the words heritage and Norfolk Southern have no business being thin the same time-zone let alone same sentence with each other.   This is a railroad that took two operating steam locomotives out of service and purposely destroyed critical parts so they could not be restored to operating condition again.   Lost all respect for them and  I sold all my stock in the company after that little manuver.

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Posted by Odie on Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:58 AM

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Posted by jacon12 on Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:25 AM

I think it's a very good Photoshop job because of the headlight placement.  NS has theirs up between the number boards and I believe KCS and UP *maybe* have them on the nose?

Hey, good job anyway!   Larry, you may get the tuxedo scheme after all!  Big Smile

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Posted by UncBob on Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:18 PM

Actually I had the same idea but for Conrail Back in the late 90s before they went under

I got a boxcar for each of Conrail's lineage and also an engine

 

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:33 AM

So definitely photoshopped, but well done :)

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Posted by THayman on Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:35 AM

...and for some reason I didn't even think of this at first: the GE in the photo is an earlier generation ES44 with the nose headlight. Everything NS has ordered from GE has had the cab headlight, and any new GE should have the nose door on the opposite side.

So definitely photoshopped, but well done :)

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Posted by THayman on Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:31 AM

jacon12

 

I keep wondering, is this an excellent Photoshop job or the real thing?    Wink

Jarrell

 

 

After looking at it for a couple moments, I'm thinking it may be photoshopped. Well done, yes, but not real. I could be wrong, but the numbers and NS logo on the side of the unit look a little off, and not that clear. Especially given how clear the front of the loco (pilot, etc) look, the paint looks too...fuzzy.

My bet is fake, but it will certainly be exciting to see the real thing when it is released!

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Posted by jacon12 on Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:15 AM

Lol.... Larry, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one, it looks fine to me.  Reminds me a little of the paint scheme on my Southern E6 though.

I keep wondering, is this an excellent Photoshop job or the real thing?    Wink

Jarrell

 

BRAKIE

OMG! That looks terrible!

That would look far better in Southern's "tuxedo" scheme.Thumbs Up

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:39 AM

OMG! That looks terrible!

That would look far better in Southern's "tuxedo" scheme.Thumbs Up

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Posted by PennCentral99 on Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:23 AM

Even though there's another thread on this subject, that sure is a SWEET looking loco and paint scheme!

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Norfolk Southerns First Heritage Unit
Posted by jacon12 on Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:35 AM

I saw this on the Yahoo group Southern Modelers

reminds me of the paint scheme on my Southern E6

 

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