QUOTE: Originally posted by jgilber0 Hi -- I have searched the web over and over and cannot find more information on these two locomotives[:D]. Does anybody on the forum have any idea what they might be and who made them? The first is a european prototype 2-6-0 with a three axle tender. Photos and a description are at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=5913686152&rd=1 The second item is a Santa Fe EMD F-7, with a shell that looks almost exactly like the old Athearn model, but with separate, glued on numberboards. The chassis is not an Athearn chassis, and it has brass wheels, an open frame rectangular shaped DC motor, no flywheels, and a stamped rectangular metal hoop for a coupler on the rear. I classified it as Fleischmann, but now I'm not so sure. More info on this one can be found at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38273&item=5913690889&rd=1 Thank you in advance for any help you can give. [:D] Jon Gilbert Jupiter, FL