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Oil company tank cars
Posted by willy6 on Friday, August 12, 2011 11:14 PM

About what year/years did the major oil companies (Shell,Texaco,etc...) quick using their logos on their tank cars?

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Posted by ericsp on Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:55 AM

It do not recall seeing seeing tankcars without underframes that had logos for many oil companies. I would say most must have stopped putting their logos on their cars in, or by, the 1960s.

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:49 AM

Consider that oil companies after about the '50's or so cut way back on transporting their product by rail--they went with pipelines.  And also, a bit later, the advertising benefit was probably overwhelmed by the fear of having the company name show in photos of wrecked cars (think the dreaded "oil spill" and citizens increasingly being anxious about such things) and then there's the more-dreaded terrorism threat.  Or threat of a threat.  I sure have never heard about some official shutdown of the concept similar to the well-known billboard reefer events.

I just thumbed through a copy of the 1953 Car Builders' Cyc, and found NO pictures of billboard style oil company tank cars (these photos generally reflect state-of-the-art samples).  A LOT were for chemicals.  There were a couple from UTLX listed as general purpose, and one from British American Oil that had no note as to commodity--it could possibly negate my statement earlier in the paragraph.  This one would be the closest to the old Texaco-Gulf.....  cars.

Also, Kline and Culotta's "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet" don't show any in 18 photos.

From Kaminski's "American Car & Foundry 1899-1999", the latest photo of what I would call an oil company billboard car is one of a modern style car with a big Sunoco logo and lettered for Napthalene built in 1968.  There's also a white Mobil tanker with six wheel trucks built the same year.  Going further back, there's a more classic looking tank car lettered for Warren built in 1953.  This is just a sampling of ACF cars, though.

I think if I wanted to run a large cut of classic billboard tankers, I'd cut it off at about 1950.  I'd run such single cars and twins up to maybe 1965.

 

 

 

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Posted by leighant on Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:21 AM

 

I am assembling a bibliography of published photos of oil company tank cars for this thread.  Igt will take several minutes.  So in the meanwhile, here are some photos of N scale tankcars painted and decalled for my 1957 era layout.

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Posted by leighant on Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:52 AM

I have collected information on oil company tankcars for my 1957-era Texas layout.  I wanted especially to represent the 1950s Texas subsidiaries of national oil companies:

  • Conoco
  • Gulf
  • Humble (Esso)
  • Magnolia (Mobil)
  • Phillips 66
  • Shell
  • Sinclair
  • Texaco

 

My 1957 cut-off has made me omit/ ignore some later information so this may not be complete for later eras.  Also, I have a lot of references to early photos, but I frequently checked a 1954 Official Railway Equipment Register to see if these cars were still around.

 

  • Champlin Petroleum HHCX 310 ARA Spec 3, TM

I photographed this car being transferred from trunk to barge on its way from Corpus Christi to the Galveston Railroad Museum about 1983.

  • Champlin Petroleum HHCX 580  USRA design  8000 gal.      listed 54 Reg  TM AAR III         Model Railroading MarApr84 p.32
  • CONX 180 Conoco 3-dome, model photo Athearn _ModRRer_ Apr02 p.44    listed 54 Reg. TM 80,000 # capy.
  • CONX 5052-5112 Conoco USRA design  1 dome TM 8000 gal      listed 54 Reg      Model Railroading MarApr84 p.32
  • GATX 75954  Gulf Oil, TM, 70 ton. listed 54 reg as TMI 50 ton       partial view, “Your Safety”, (MP RR employees’ safety book,1958) p.14, 36
  • Gulf GATX 15592 8000 gal.  prize O scale model _NMRA Bull_ Nov78 p.72
  • Gulf Oil GATX 75954 TM 50 ton.      pix, _Your Safety_, (MP RR,1958) p.14,36
  • Gulf Oil GRCX 5010 blt 1923  1 dome  TM riveted 10,140 gallon      listed 1954 Reg      "A Rolling Pipeline of Colorful Tank Cars: Classic  Freight Cars Vol.2" p.60 color pix
  • WRNX 13575 Gulf Oil Corp (labeled "Chemicals Dept") #not listed 54 Eqpt.Reg.:                          listed 71 EqptReg as TM 8000 gallons   1967 photo by Jim Sands on website www.rr-fallenflags.org
  • Gulf Oil WNRX 14280  blt 1930 1 dome non-pressure  1979 pix.       # not listed 54 _EqptReg_ for Warren or Gulf       "A Rolling Pipeline of Colorful Tank Cars: Classic       Freight Cars Vol.2" p.60 color pix
  •        Note: Gulf Refining Co. acquiring Warren Petroleum   of Tulsa OK in exchange-of-stock deal. Including   4300 car tankcar fleet.per Business Week_ Nov.19, 1955 p.66
  • Humble Oil HOX 315  _Houston North Shore (book documenting interurban line absorbed by MoPac) p.86
  • Humble Oil UTLX 31589  ARA-III blt 1918 UTLX series 21000-42999     100,000 lb. capy w exceptions   service stencil late as 1969  Photo at Galveston RR museum: 

 

  • KOTX 879 Kanotex (Kansas Oklahoma Texas--       Anderson Pritchard Oil Corp, Oklahoma City)       not listed 54 Reg;       kla pix at Museum of Industry and Transport, Galveston, Texas. 

 

  • KOTX 1004 Kanotex Refining Co ARA spec.III  10,115 gal. blt 1920;           listed 54 Eqpt Reg TM; pix American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.62
  • KOTX 8309-8404 Kanotex USRA design TM 8000 gal.  Model Railroading MarApr84 p.32
  • KOTX 8395 Kanotex Refining ARA spec.III  8174 gal.  blt 1926;        KOTX 8201-8400, 200 cars listed 54 Eqpt Reg TM;            pix American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.68

 

to be continbued with Magniola & Mobil

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Posted by leighant on Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:12 PM
  • Magnolia MPCX 43    6000 gallon TM listed 1954 Reg.     end pix overturned in train wreck 1930s?     _Journal Tx Shortline RRs_ MayJunJul98(Paris & Mt.Pleas.issue) p.3 
  • Mobilgas  SVX 2127 (Socony-Vacuum Central Region);       USRA design, blt 1954, AAR III TM, 10000 gal;       Model Railroading MarchApril 84 p.32 pix 
  • Mobilgas, 1 dome tank, end distorted perspective view 1940; _Coach, Cabbage & Caboose (ATSF mixed-train book) _ p.115 
  • SHPX 10246 Phillips Petroleum  ARA spec.III 10,144 gal blt 1926;   SHPX 10205-10279  75 cars,             listed 54 Eqpt Reg; pix American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.68  
  • PSPX 11014  Phillips Petroleum  ICC-105-A-300  insulated 10,414 gal.  blt 1929             for “Philgas” LPG  PSPX 11010-11019  10 cars ;       listed 1954 Eqpt Reg as TPI;          pix American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.73
  • PSPX 13085 Phillips Petroleum    ICC-105-A-300-W  insulated 10,478 gal.  blt     1940 for “Philgas” 10 cars     listed 1954 Eqpt Reg as TPI; pix American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.90
  • PSPX 15003  Phillips Petroleum ICC-104A  11,013 gal.  blt 1927; PSPX 15001-15010 ; listed 1954 Eqpt Reg as TPI;   pix American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.70
  • PSPX 20001 flat deck type car w 30 small upright pressurized tanks for liquid petroleum gas.    listed 1954 EqReg as TRI  ICC 103AL-W  #20001-20025;   ca 1930 pix, "50 Years of Oil in the Southwest: Golden Anniversary  of       the Oil & Gas Journal"(1951)
  • Phillips Petroleum  SHPX 10246  ARA spec.III 10,144 gal blt 1926; SHPX 10205-10279  75 cars,             listed 54 Eqpt Reg; pix, American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.68
  • Shell Chemical SCMX 900  series 890-901; almost identical 801-849;  ACF Type 27 8000 gallon riveted tank  ca.late 1930s;       listed 1954 _Eqpt Reg_ Rail Mod Journal_ Oct97 p.29
  • Shell Oil      RPX 2030 Roxana Shell Products   AAR IV insulated;  not listed 54 Reg.;      Train Shed Cyclopedia #12 p.1925-258.
  • Shell Chemical SCMX 900  series 890-901; almost identical 801-849;  ACF Type 27 8000 gallon riveted tank  ca.late 1930s;  listed 1954 _Eqpt Reg_ ; Rail Mod Journal_ Oct97 p.29
  • Shell Oil;   RPX 2030 Roxana Shell Products   AAR IV insulated;  not listed 54 Reg.;      Train Shed Cyclopedia #12 p.1925-258.
  • SDRX 1037 Sinclair Oil 10,000 gallon TM;  ca. 1920? pix  listed 54 Reg.;  pix "A Great Name in Oil...Sinclair..." (proprietary/promotional company history)  p.26
  • SDRX 2601  Sinclair  Oil;  series 2605-2699 listed 54 Reg  5 extant;    "A Great Name in Oil...Sinclair..."p.37
  • SDRX 8831 Sinclair Oil  8000 gallon  TM  1 dome;  listed 54 Reg  pix in WW2?;  "A Great Name in Oil..Sinclair..." p.54
  • SDRX 11823 Sinclair Oil  8000 gallon  TM;   listed 54 Reg  pix ca. 1919?    "A Great Name in Oil..Sinclair..." p.27
  • SDRX 17869 Sinclair Oil; pix 1920  listed 54 Reg;   "A Great Name in Oil...Sinclair..."p.37
  • Texaco TCX 1806 tank TM 8000 gallons blt 1911 1 dome;    from series TCX 1100-2499.in 54 Reg.;  photo from Rosenberg Library, Galveston (sorry, no permission to copy or post...)
  • Texaco TCX 1687 tank TM 8000 gallons 1-dome high car-long platform ;  from series TCX 1100-2499.in 54 Reg.;    photo from Rosenberg Library, Galveston
  • Texaco TCX 7892  10,000 gallon ACF type 21,  blt 1927  single dome;     photo _Rail Model Journal_ May97 p.25
  • TCX 9383 Texas Company/Texaco  ICC-104 insulated 10,230 gal  blt 1929; TCX 9375-9399; listed 54 Eqpt Reg (with GATX); pix American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.72  
  • TCX 9919 Texas Company/Texaco ICC-103  insulated 10,040  gal  blt 1930; TCX 9750-9799  50 cars; listed 54 Eqpt Reg (with GATX); pix American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.73

NOT OIL COMPANY BUT REFINERY-RELATED:

  • Ethyl Corp EBAX 900 ICC-105-A-300-W insulated  welded  9030 gal  blt 1955;   EBAX 900-907 8 cars.  pix American Car & Foundry (Kaminski) p.121
  • EBAX 3095 Ethyl Corporation blt 54;       listed 54 Reg as TPI ICC 105A 300W;      "A Rolling Pipeline of Colorful Tank Cars: Classic  Freight Cars Vol.2" p.54 color pix
  • EBAX 6039 Ethyl Corporation blt 44;  listed 54 Reg as TPI ICC 105A 300W;   "A Rolling Pipeline of Colorful Tank Cars: Classic Freight Cars Vol.2" p.54 color pix
  • EBAX ETHYL Corporation;   artist's rendering of typical antiknock fleet   6000 gallon tankcar,   p.192, "Ethyl: A History of the Corporation and the  People Who Made It", Joseph C. Robert, 1983.
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Posted by Ron High on Sunday, August 14, 2011 7:15 PM

Gulf Oil tank cars ran with their logos in New England into the 1960s ,The cars with the large orange Gulf herald on a black car were still being used in that time period.Gulf cars with older heralds and No Nox eythl  were likely used in the late 1950s maybe early sixties See A&R videos of New Haven to see some on the Southbridge Mass local freight. Also some of the Morning Sun books on New Haven have a few shots in that time period.

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Posted by willy6 on Sunday, August 14, 2011 7:27 PM

Wow, that's of info,thank you very much y'all for your help,i really appreciate it.

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Posted by jmbjmb on Monday, August 15, 2011 9:46 PM

I recall seeing the Gulf cars in Spartanburg into the early 70s (large pipeline terminal there).  Probably some of the others too, but Gulf was certainly there.  There were still several small oil dealers in my hometown that got deliveries by railroad up until the late 60s/early 70s.

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Posted by blubryexp on Friday, August 26, 2011 3:44 PM

 Wanted to respond to your post two weeks ago. Had to learn how to post a picture(took a while to get it right). So,here's a Tank Car from "Red Caboose" I just bought from a LHS. Was built in 1949 according to the markings. Hope this helps along with the replies you've already received.

                  

 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, August 26, 2011 4:14 PM

willy6

About what year/years did the major oil companies (Shell,Texaco,etc...) quick using their logos on their tank cars?

Others have shown older (much older) tank car examples.  In more recent years such as the 1980's and onward, most of the oil company tank cars were "plain jane" and marked with simple reporting marks such as MOBX (Mobile) or CONX (Conoco).  Atlas and Walthers have offered 1970 and 1980's era 26k gallon takn cars with these marking and other common oil companies.

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Posted by strider on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:04 PM

Thanks for all the info, I'm going to print it out and save it.

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Posted by UncBob on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:18 PM

I have a Sunoco 66--Sinclair 69

 

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