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Why doesnt anyone sell a Queen Anne Victorian home in HO?

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Posted by steemtrayn on Monday, July 25, 2011 4:18 PM

Suhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Classic-Miniatures-HO-Scale-Queen-Anne-House-/350261074333?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item518d2fd99drprised no one mentioned this yet:

 

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Posted by Owendubya on Monday, July 25, 2011 12:01 PM

Not only are there variances within the Victorians but also regional differences within the Queen Anne.  For example some might have 2 or 3 different types of "fishscale" different colors as well. Three to 5 colors was not uncommon as many as 8 were used on some.There were differences from Nor'East to West so it would be difficult and expensive to build a kit for every type and locale.

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, July 25, 2011 7:12 AM

galaxy

Unless you want to scratch build as mentioned, OR "make do", as mentioned with those that ARE available, and "did all your research", Then WHY are you posting the question? Seems you already should know the answer.

galaxy, aren't you being just a bit contentious here?

If you read the OP's initial post closely, he is looking for a Queen Anne Victorian kit or RTR.  He would prefer not to scratch bulid and is hoping that someone knows of the availability of such a product.  So, he doesn't know the answer.

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Posted by Medina1128 on Monday, July 25, 2011 7:11 AM

Apparently, the real estate market hasn't recovered enough. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, July 25, 2011 7:06 AM

came across this in a Google search:

http://www.borders.com/online/store/TitleDetail?sku=0486292762

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Posted by galaxy on Monday, July 25, 2011 6:57 AM

richhotrain

 Santa Fe all the way!:

Galaxy, I know you were'nt  implying that I didnt do my homework before asking for help? I spent more than 3 seconds online looking before asking here, more like several  hours. I appreciate you going to the trouble of posting all those links, but Ive already found and discounted most of them because there not really Queen Anne victorians. Some are other types of victorians and some arent victorians at all.

 

Santa Fe is right, not all Victorians are Queen Anne Victorians.  Here is a photo of a classic Queen Anne Victorian:

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv90/richhotrain/QueenAnneVictorian.jpg

I LIVE and GREW UP in a town with MANY VIctorians and QUeen Annes in a HISTORIC DISTRICT, of ALL manners of CONSTRUSTION MATERIALS. I KNOW WHAT they are.  ALSO a LOT of Greek Revivals, and  a few Gothics tossed in. We also still  have wooden train stations that date from 1850's! NO, I will NOT find "ready made or kits" or houses like what is in my neighborhoods. BY the way, many "Queen Anne" Victorians have LACE GINGERBREAD FRET WORK ALL over them AND DIfferent "sculptural" shingles.

A description:

What Makes a Queen?

Fanciful and flamboyant, America's Queen Anne architecture takes on many shapes. Some Queen Anne houses are lavishly decorated. Others are restrained in their embellishments. Yet the flashy "painted ladies" of San Francisco and the refined brownstones of Brooklyn share many of the same features. There is an element of surprise to the typical Queen Anne home. The roof is steeply pitched and irregular. The overall shape of the house is asymmetrical.

Virginia and Lee McAlester, authors of A Field Guide to American Houses, identify four types of detailing found on Queen Anne homes.

1. Spindled (See photo)
This is the style we most frequently think of when we hear the term "Queen Anne." These are "gingerbread" houses with delicate turned porch posts and lacy, ornamental spindles. This type of decoration is often called Eastlake because it resembles the work of the famous English furniture designer, Charles Eastlake.

2. Free Classic (See photo)
Instead of delicate turned spindles, these homes have classical columns, often raised on brick or stone piers. Like the Colonial Revival houses that would soon become fashionable, Free Classic Queen Anne homes may have
Palladian windows and dentil moldings.

3. Half-Timbered
Like the early Tudor style houses, these Queen Annes have decorative
half-timbering in the gables. Porch posts are often thick.

4. Patterned Masonry (See photo)
Most frequently found in the city, these Queen Annes have brick, stone, or terra-cotta walls. The masonry may be beautifully patterned, but there are few decorative details in wood.

Queen Anne Features

A list of Queen Anne features can be deceptive. Queen Anne architecture is not an orderly or easily classified. Bay windows, balconies, stained glass, turrets, porches, brackets, and an abundance of decorative details combine in unexpected ways.

Moreover, Queen Anne details can be found on less pretentious houses. In American cities, smaller working-class homes were given patterned shingles, spindlework, extensive porches, and bay windows. Many turn-of-the-century houses are in fact hybrids, combining Queen Anne motifs with features from earlier and later fashions.

Examples:

 

1889 Queen Ann Victorian in Dover-Foxcroft, Maine
Built in 1889, this Queen Anne home has "stick" detailing in the gable. The house is located in Dover-Foxcroft, Maine.Photo © Rhonda Bacon-St.John
Queen Anne With Brick Tower
Queen Anne With Brick Tower - Queen Anne House StylePhoto © Joy
Brick and sandstone Queen Anne
James B. Arthur House in Fort Collins, ColoradoPhoto © Georgia E.

{source About.com Architecture}

Unless you want to scratch build as mentioned, OR "make do", as mentioned with those that ARE available, and "did all your research", Then WHY are you posting the question? Seems you already should know the answer.

A "search our community" earch would have turned up past threads on this very exact subject, and so,I submit that perhaps, NO, you did NOT do ALL your research. The answers in past threads were the same-scratch, take what is available and make do, or forget the whole thing if the Victorian Mansions styles available are you want available are not available that you want.

Same goes for a particular locomotive!

SoapBox  Bang Head rant over.

-G .

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Posted by tstage on Monday, July 25, 2011 6:51 AM

Santa Fe all the way!

The goal of my post was1. "vocalizing" my frustration at a lack of Queen Anne style victorian homes available in kit or rtr, 2. Asking for help finding said house.3. Asking the question, "why doesnt anyone make one of these"  The Grandmas house that someone mentioned is about as close to what Im looking for as I've found other than the brass model mentioned in my OP. The two problems with it are, it doesnt have a turret and at over $100 its a little expensive. Like someone said, if I want it, I may need to consider scratchbuilding or maybe modifying a kit. Anyway, thanks for the responses.

Santa Fe,

Yep, sounds like a golden opportunity to hone your kitbashing or scratchbuilding skills.  And that Queen Anne will become even more special to you when completed than if it had been provided by an manufacture as is.

As I've learned more and more about modeling in my short stint in MRRing so far, kits are merely a starting point for detailing.  I hardly ever leave them strictly according to the assembly instructions.

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, July 25, 2011 6:13 AM

Santa Fe all the way!

Galaxy, I know you were'nt  implying that I didnt do my homework before asking for help? I spent more than 3 seconds online looking before asking here, more like several  hours. I appreciate you going to the trouble of posting all those links, but Ive already found and discounted most of them because there not really Queen Anne victorians. Some are other types of victorians and some arent victorians at all.

Santa Fe is right, not all Victorians are Queen Anne Victorians.  Here is a photo of a classic Queen Anne Victorian:

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Posted by river_eagle on Monday, July 25, 2011 2:47 AM

polar lights makes a HO Bates mansion kit.

downtown deco grimm's funeral home

 

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Why doesnt anyone sell a Queen Anne Victorian home in HO?
Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:48 PM

Galaxy, I know you were'nt  implying that I didnt do my homework before asking for help? I spent more than 3 seconds online looking before asking here, more like several  hours. I appreciate you going to the trouble of posting all those links, but Ive already found and discounted most of them because there not really Queen Anne victorians. Some are other types of victorians and some arent victorians at all. The goal of my post was1. "vocalizing" my frustration at a lack of Queen Anne style victorian homes available in kit or rtr, 2. Asking for help finding said house.3. Asking the question, "why doesnt anyone make one of these"  The Grandmas house that someone mentioned is about as close to what Im looking for as I've found other than the brass model mentioned in my OP. The two problems with it are, it doesnt have a turret and at over $100 its a little expensive. Like someone said, if I want it, I may need to consider scratchbuilding or maybe modifying a kit. Anyway, thanks for the responses.

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Posted by HHPATH56 on Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:00 AM
Wow! Those are gorgeous homes! I like your idea of using them as reduced size background structures, since they take up quite a bit of space. The other structures and scenery are terrific. Bob Hahn
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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:32 AM

I "cheated" with the victorian houses in this photo. They are background buildings, and they look better being smaller than HO scale to force perspective. Each one was purchased at a dollar store for a doller. I touched up some of the paint and placed them on the layout.

A foreground model would have to be HO scale, of course.

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Posted by tangerine-jack on Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:02 AM

If you can't buy it, scratch build it. Then make a mold of it and sell it as a kit. Then you can be the somebody that makes a kit in HO of a Queen Anne.

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:56 AM

Santa Fe --

Walthers is the largest distributor / wholesaler of model railroad products in the US, but by no means the only source.

Several of the Branchline structures would be OK as is, and I seem to recall several others that could be kitbashed.  There are lots of products out there. Google is your friend.

Don't turn up your nose at the cardstock models, either.  My father and I built an entire layout in the 1970s using nothing but, and I still have some of them today.  They are very nicely detailed, much better than the average styrene or laser cut wood structure.  And no painting is required.

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Posted by galaxy on Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:40 AM

There is this:

http://www.amazon.com/Assemble-Victorian-Houses-Buildings-Scale/dp/0486238490

 

http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Victorian-Houses-HO-Scale-Cut-and-Make-4-Full-Color-Building/24193842

 

http://www.abebooks.com/9780486287706/Cut-Assemble-Victorian-Gothic-House-048628770X/plp

 

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Model-Power-N-1526-Victorian-House-Kit-p/mdp-1526.htm

 

here are some victorian buildings as well as houses:

http://hogtrainz.com/AMBSTRUCTURES.htm

Parts if you wnat to scractch build:

http://www.oakridgehobbies.com/index.php/hobby-products-tools-paints-wood-metal-plastic-hobby-supplies/architectural-scale-model-building-supplies/ho-scale-eighth-scale-architect-model-building-supplies/ho-scale-windows-doors-trims

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/brl/brl600.htm

 

interesting: http://modelrailroading.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/free-mo-module-scenery-part-1-the-old-victorian-house/

Here's a list of possible places that may have what you want:

http://www.railserve.com/Models/Manufacturers/Structure_Kits/

oh, cool looking victorian:

http://www.1stplacehobbies.com/cgi-bin/p_181-601_n.asp

http://www.1stplacehobbies.com/cgi-bin/p_181-601_n.asp

interesting structures: http://www.scalemodelplans.com/smp/pgs/catalog.html

There are lots more. I simply googled "HO scale victorian houses" and came up with several pages in just 3 seconds. It took me longer to make this post than it did to acutally find these structures.  SUre some are kits that need to be put togeter, but the structures are fantastic, and you get the satisfaction of building them.

Good luck.

 

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Posted by train18393 on Sunday, July 24, 2011 3:30 AM

I am no expert in Queen Ann Victorian houses, but isn't Campbell's Grandmas house one of them?

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, July 24, 2011 12:18 AM

Perhaps they are trying to force you into scratch building! I believe that most of the neccessary components are available from Grandt Line, Tichy and Evergreen etc. It might be worth a try and you might actually like it!

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Why doesnt anyone sell a Queen Anne Victorian home in HO?
Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Saturday, July 23, 2011 11:59 PM

Almost every town in the US has at least a few of these. I live in a town with a population of 1500 and we have several. They've been around from approx 1850 to the present , so they would look appropriate in any time frame. So, wouldnt you think it would be a nice thing to offer as a kit or RTR??? And by a Queen Anne victorian, I mean fishscale shingles, eave decorations, widows walk, gingerbread porch trim, and at least one turret. In the entire Walthers catalog, there's only one house that comes close. Its an expensive brass model. Woodland Scenics are you out there?? Do you hear me?

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