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Don't You Love Boats and Water Fronts

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Posted by ARTHILL on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:01 PM

And I thought I would ge a bunch of great dock scenes. At least MrB came through for me.

As far as wimsical scenes for the enjoyment of the modeler, that is what I am all about.

But if someone started a thread on great waterfront scenes, I would look, but have nothing to show.

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Posted by richg1998 on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:43 PM

If you want a lighthouse for a water front display, Harbor Freight, a tool supplier has one that is 8 inches tall and is solar powered for $5.98. It could be modified for a layout. You can buy or make your own circuit that pretty much simulates the rotating beacon. I have made my own electronic circuit that works quite well with an inverted cone white LED which gives a 360 degree light.

Rather than post the link, do a Google search for harbor freight solar lighthouse. Don't want to offend the Powers That Be.

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Posted by Mike Kieran on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:23 PM

If we have the same mind, I feel sorry for Bernie.Laugh If I get the MR Collection on CD, then I can see it. Mine will also be a short line switching arrangement. It will be a 56x38 inch tabletop layout that folds in half.

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Posted by ef3 yellowjacket on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:52 AM

Hi, Mike;

His name was Bernie De La Torre, and he comes originally from Cuba.  The concept was a portable layout that was pretty much a switching/short line arrangement.  Now, this layout was a featured article in the June 1967 Model R ailroader, and what caught my mind was the two features; switching and as a seaport.  It was called the "Port Able" lines.  See?  Great minds think alike after all.

 

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Posted by Mike Kieran on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:29 AM

Hey Rich,

The name just came to me because it's portable, and will rest on my tabletop (por table). I've shrunk it down from my original plan of 66x45 inches to 56x38 inches. The layout will fold in half so that I can fit it in the back seat of my car. I will commence building it in a few weeks.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:01 AM

This scene is from the Treasure Coast Model Railroad Club in Port St. Lucie, Florida:

I'm just a visitor with a camera, so I can't claim any responsibility for the scene.  The club has an extensive waterfront area, and some of the best "dirty water" modeling I've ever seen.  Check out "Layout Scenes" on their web site http://www.tcmrr.org/ for more pictures of their port.

The car float and apron are the Walters kits.  I managed to get one of each when they briefly re-surfaced as a production run a couple of years back.  It's somewhere on my list, but the whole "Mooseport" area of my layout is still nothing but pink foam right now.

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Posted by ef3 yellowjacket on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:45 PM

HI Mike;

Did you buy that Port Able Lines layout from another modeller, first name being Bernie?  I ask because there was an article about one about 44 years ago  in MR.

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Posted by ef3 yellowjacket on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:42 PM

Billie Holliday and a ton of other singers and instrumentalists.  Billie Holliday  Made that song to be almost her trademark she did it so good.  I have one of the Walthers carfloats and doing a transfer facility of any size will be a mighty undertaking, but it WILL be built!

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Posted by Ibflattop on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:57 PM

Go to youtube and Type in MA&G of Cliff Powers. See what he has done for modeling harbors and ships with Modelrailroading.    Kevin

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Posted by Mike Kieran on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:40 AM

My Port Able Railway will have a fish company for its waterfront since it will not have the space for a port facility. If I were to put one though, I would consider putting a bulk liquid facility (just add hoses and a pump station) or a gravel transfer facility (the Walthers Golden Flame Fuel Company would be perfect for that).

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:24 AM

OH!

Alriught, can I remove my tongue from my cheek now so I can avoid choking to death?

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Posted by citylimits on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:49 AM

Smile

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Monday, July 11, 2011 6:53 PM

Wasn't there a song from the 1920s or 1930s titled: "I model the waterfront" or something like that?

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Posted by robert sylvester on Monday, July 11, 2011 1:45 PM

 

Rich:

It's o.k., for me it was fun to build, I could have extended the water a little more but, hey I am o.k. with whatever is said. For me it is the idea of just being able to create, it is model railroading, and I have fun. When folks drop by to see it they like it.

I have seen many a water front scene that are small in Model Railroader over the years, some with passenger ships on a model railroad; and yes the barge comes from no real place. Whatever we say can be discouraging to some but I don't mind at all. I certainly would not want to discourage a newcomer with all kinds of criticism. Whether it is perportional or not, I like to at least demonstrate some modeling effort and just enjoy the hobby. Besides, why do we have to be so exact.

I guess every picture that has appeared on this forum has been perfect, all done by professional modelers; I just can't tie my self up in rivets.

Thanks,

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Posted by markpierce on Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:33 AM
That's OK. I nearly ran aground on the Napa River with my trawler this afternoon due to a lapse of rational thinking.
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Posted by tangerine-jack on Saturday, July 9, 2011 8:55 PM

Looks good to me.  Clearly the barge belongs to a pilot school and it's the first day on a real watercraft for the student. No problem.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, July 9, 2011 5:52 AM

LOL

Robert, you are taking a beating on that photo of your landlocked barge, but nice job of scratchbuilding, nonetheless. 

Rich

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Posted by galaxy on Saturday, July 9, 2011 1:59 AM
"Don't You Love Boats and Water Fronts"
No, not really.
But If I did, I would model something more like a leisure campground near the river, with small water craft, not an immense barge that dwarfs the trains and looks like it was jammed there.
"just building a scene" or not, and "not-to-scale realism" or not, that barge just does not look to be in place there. It is just to unplausible. As others have said it looks like a flood brought it to bear on the tracks.

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Friday, July 8, 2011 4:25 PM

You might want to put random debris abound the water's edge.  The barge looks like it's wedged against the bridge after a flood. It doesn't look like it could have gotten there any other way.

Looks like it's well built.

Do you have a wide pic of the layout?

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, July 8, 2011 3:36 PM

Having spent my `formative years' in the Port of New York area, I have severe rivet counter syndrome when it comes to waterfronts and water craft.

OTOH, I have no idea what might have been appropriate in the universe you are modeling.

The ferry is an interesting design, but obviously intended for placid waters.  As for the placement, back in `the day' there was a Blue Coal bunker at the head of navigation of the Bronx River that was more than a little reminiscent of your scene.  Watching a tug trying to maneuver a coal barge in there (and get the empty out) was an interesting way to spend an hour or two.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with watercourses navigable by kayakers with death wishes)

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Posted by robert sylvester on Friday, July 8, 2011 11:19 AM

chutton01:

Nah, it certainly is way out of proportion and I understand that. For me it is just the idea of building a scene. Of course it's not even practicle; for me it is the joy of just creating a scene and it satisfies my little world.

I certainly enjoyed building the boat, its my boat and I am captain and haul what I want. No history or mystery here,

Thanks for looking,

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Posted by chutton01 on Friday, July 8, 2011 10:56 AM

Just wondering - in "weld counter mode" - do (or did in your time frame) motorized barges look like that? If not, perhaps you could repurpose the barge for maintainance, such as dredging or pile-driving.

Did they carry trailers on a regular basis (or is the load just for photo-shot purposes) on the Mississippi and it's tributaries (which include the Ohio, Missouri, Red, and the Tennessee/Tombigbee)?  I'm sure there were one offs and such, especially during wartime

And are you planning a large wharf scene with much more space - the way the barge is crammed in there now against the bridge looks like the end result of a massive flood rather than a controlled docking manuever - also, it seems you mean for that bridge to be permanently located there rather than just for the photos - but that bridge (in the real world) would clearly restrict navigation - a movable bridge would be preferrable for that locatioin, unless you're considering the water feature just a small triburtary rather than the main river

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Don't You Love Boats and Water Fronts
Posted by robert sylvester on Friday, July 8, 2011 9:53 AM

Well, I know it's model railroading and we have talked about trains, planes, cars and even water on the route. My railroad is in West Tennessee the WTRR. It crosses some rivers like the Tennessee, but I still wanted a harbor so I moved a small portion of Memphis to fit the railroad.

It is a small area but it satisfies my want of a harbor. I decided to scratch build a barge, since they travel the Mississippi and the Tennessee. I found a piece of 2X6, angled the bow and sides and flattened the back then painted it. I then scratched the pilothouse from scraps, adding here and there with figures and trailors being hauled to port.

The area measures 2'X21/2', the base is plywood painted, then I used Woodlands Scenic water out of a bottle, two layers. The bridge is scratched built out of  plywood for the road bed, Holgate and Reynolds siding then I painted the bridge and laid the track.

As they say, it ain't much but I like it as I build up my little port city on the river. I hope others will share their river ports and the like.

The "Debra Lee" at the Port of Riverside

The Port City of Riverside with a truck transfer build right next door.

The "Debra Lee" just received a load and is shooving off for a new destination.

Share your ports.

Thanks,

Robert Sylvester, WTRR

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