Add Another Railroad To The Licensing List

[Anonymous]

DISCLAIMER: The Allentown Scranton & Northern doesn't exist, don't believe a word of the following [:p]

ALLENTOWN PA--- Allentown Scranton & Northern Industries has announced it will begin charging for use of it's logo, $5 for everything $.01 to $100.00 and $5.00 for every $100 after that, the following logos will be included:


The "diamond" logo.


The lettering on phase 1 diesels.


The new side logo on phase 2 diesels.

[BRAKIE]

The CDB Industries also advised they will start a licensing fees program for their shirt line operations.
The roads include the following:
Cumberland,Dickersonville & Bristol
Cincinnati & Lake Erie
Columbus & Hocking Valley.
Toledo & Southwestern
Kentucky Central
Artemus-Jellico
Detroit Connecting
Beaver Creek Ry.
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Fees will be $1200.00 per year.

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[Noah Hofrichter]

That's a good one. Another Railroad to watch out when your buying there stuff.

(by the way, don't tell you-know-who, but I just bought a you-know-who engine dirt cheap off e-bay, too bad I'm going to repaint it. I'll regret it when I decide I need a UP engine.

Noah

[Anonymous]

The Burlington Route-Rock Island Lines should try this licensing thing!
Then if they charged something like $1,000 a year, the CEO, founder, and President of the railroad (me,myself, and I) could actually get the CB&Q-CRI&P built! [:D]

LOL

[Anonymous]

MAYTAG owns the trademarks to the ROCK ISLAND - and they DO take action against those who use it without permission.

SO FAR, they don't charge model makers a fee .....

Of course, they may later join UP, CSX, and AMTRAK (who everyone forgets had a fee before UP!).

[GDRMCo]

From the CEO of North Queensland Sugar,
Licensing of the name, logo and paint scheme for NQS will come into effect by tommorrow. That is all. Have a great day.

[Anonymous]

WHAT????!!!!!

How in the heck does Maytag own the Rock Island trademarks? You'd think the Iowa Interstate or another RI spin-off would, but MAYTAG??!!

GBaily, tell us more avout how a washing machine and fridge manufacturer in Newton, IA came to own the CRI&P trademarks!!!!


That is the BIGGEST DISGRACE OF ANY FALLEN FLAG'S NAME I HAVE EVER HEARD OF!!!!!

[Anonymous]

The short answer is that Maytag was the final major stockholder (after a series of transfers and attempted re-starts) after RI shutdown in 1980.

The longer story: http://www.simpson.edu/mjdomo.archives/rits/msg07167.html

(also read the messages up and down the thread)

Maytag HAS sued to protect their RI trademarks - a few years ago, a want-to-be RR company THOUGHT that they would start up a "new" Rock Island RR in Missouri - Maytag lawyers quickly brought THAT to a stop !

Operationally, of course, the Iowa Interstate RR is the true "heir" to the RIL, running as they do on the old RI main track from Chicago to Rock Island and across Iowa.

[kog1027]

Maytag owns the rights to the Rock Island name because they bought the Rock Island. When the CRI&P emerged from bankruptcy they changed their name to Chicago Pacific Corp and styled themselves as a Real Estate ( They retained the rights to a lot of the Rock Island's non-railroad property. ) and Investment company. One of their investments was to purchase, in 1985, the Hoover Vacuum Cleaner company. They were then purchased by Maytag in 1989.

http://www.hoover.com/dbPages/History.asp

Mark Gosdin
Who is glad that the UP didn't end up with the Rock Island name....

[Anonymous]

While Amtrak and CSX have licencing policies, niether of those corporations have taken measures that openly hinder and disrupt free and unfettered model building. From my reasearch on this topic CSX only asks model companies that they obtain the railroads formal permission before using their logo on models. And Amtrak, while it does charge a surcharge, It is minimal and from what I can tell is applicible to Amtrak proprietary items. I.E. It gets tacked on to the Superliners, but the Budd Cars were used by many other railroads and thus it is not charged on them.

Another big difference between CSX and Amtrak vs Union Pacific, their licencing policies have been in place since the start of the corporation. Union Pacific on the other hand has had well over 140 years to put a trademark licencing policy together and nearly 70 to impliment it in the model train field. (Lionel's "M-10000" of 1937 is the first Identifyable Union Pacific Model train) Union Pacific has also in their suit demanded that they be given ownership of tooling. This goes from a mere trademark battle to direct interfearence in this hobby. I am sorry to inform the Union Pacific railroad, they are not the only railroads to have owned SD70Ms (Normal or flaired Radiators) AC4400s SD45s SD40-2s, and I digress. If anyone should have a gripe about the tooling, it should be EMD. Yet if recent history has followd pattern, the F-59s SD70ms and such were developed with the full co-operation of EMD. As in Athearn's Heyday the relationship between EMD and Athearn was such that when EMD knew they were going to be building a new locomotive, Athearn would be one of the first people informed and blue prints of the new locomotive sent so that development on tooling can begin.

So to close this is how I view the situation at this time. Union Pacific can kiss mine, and for my Union Pacific models, Have Airbrush, will paint.

James

[Anonymous]

James- That is one of the most informed and well thought out post about this topic. I agree 100% with your statements except for the Up can kiss... I'm just not affected that much to get that worked up.
Andrew