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Shay conversion

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Shay conversion
Posted by Graffen on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 8:39 PM

Hello in the cold Big Smile
I took the opportunity while I'm still snowed in to address a couple of projects I have been keeping on the shelf.
The first is my Shay locomotive. It is a H0 scale, 3 truck 80
-ton Shay from Bachmann and their Spectrum series.

The locomotive has led to many concerns, repairs and other headaches....
The first thing that happened was that the Tsunami sound decoder that I ordered did not fit ....
So I had to build a new tender shell from brass to make it: fit:

Then the drive gears on the side rod cracked one by one ... :? .
Luckily, NWSL makes new gears made of steel instead of the originals that are in plastic!
Then the locomotive
worked "good", except that it was not possible to back up through a switch, because then the middle boogie would derail guaranteed.
I was doing all sorts of adjustments and fine-tuning without much success.
Then I thought: :-Aha! I can rebuild it.!
I had already mounted the sound decoder in another of my locomotives (that happens ...),
and I had just bought a Lenz Gold decoder,  the foundation for the project was laid.
I've always appreciated the look of two truck Shay´s, and to rebuild it from three truck to two truck ought to work.
I dismantled the whole locomotive into pieces:

And after some measurements I put the saw firmly to the chassis!
I cut off a piece of the chassis behind the rear bolster and cut the tender chassie in the same place. I glued together the two halves with epoxy and reinforced the joint with carbon fiber rods. I then used epoxy with micro balloons in it to reinforce it:

Top View.


Bottom.

When it was finished I cut the original tender shell so that it fit tightly against the cab backside.
A little wiring later (I made it all new), that was it:

It works much better than before in every way, and it does not look so clumsy as before. Now it fits well as a Port switcher on my layout.
It took 5 hours of work, but it was not much else I could have done instead .....:rolleyes:

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Posted by richg1998 on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 8:48 PM

Quite a nice project.

I do know some have squeezed in the Micro Tsunami. Don't remember what size speaker though.

This will inspire some. The new gears will be a good bit of info.

Rich

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Posted by ChadLRyan on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 9:26 PM

Nice work, looks great!!!

Chad L Ryan
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Posted by jwhitten on Thursday, December 2, 2010 7:16 AM

 

Very nice! That's a terrific project, thanks for posting it and for the photos. I'm with you, I like the two-truck shays a lot better. The three-truck versions are interesting and I'm glad I have one, but that's all I really want. Now that I've seen what you did I think I'll convert my other one the same way. I already have all the right parts even!

Thanks!

 

John

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Posted by Graffen on Thursday, December 2, 2010 8:45 AM

Thank´s for the replies.

I hoped that I could inspire someone to make the conversion as well.

It isn´t SO hard, but rather more a matter of: "measure twice, cut once".....

It runs so well now that I have thoughts about buying a Loksound micro for it.....It should fit in the tender now and the speaker in the Cab roof or maybe in the boiler backend.

Sure, it won´t pull as much now, but I don´t have any inclines on my layout so that isn´t much of an issue for me. As long as it will pull 8 cars on the level I´m happy.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 2, 2010 1:41 PM

Very cool!  I had a friend that did the same conversion and he also regauged his to Sn3.

Good job!

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Posted by Geared Steam on Friday, December 3, 2010 8:16 PM

Graffen

Excellent job, I having been planning to do this as well, thanks for the post!

GS

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Posted by Geared Steam on Monday, December 27, 2010 2:30 PM

Graffen

Thank you for the inspiration, My new 2 truck is out for a test run. Cool

Obviously I still need to cut down the tender shell and finish adding the details.

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Posted by richg1998 on Monday, December 27, 2010 2:36 PM

Graffen

Thank´s for the replies.

I hoped that I could inspire someone to make the conversion as well.

It isn´t SO hard, but rather more a matter of: "measure twice, cut once".....

It runs so well now that I have thoughts about buying a Loksound micro for it.....It should fit in the tender now and the speaker in the Cab roof or maybe in the boiler backend.

Sure, it won´t pull as much now, but I don´t have any inclines on my layout so that isn´t much of an issue for me. As long as it will pull 8 cars on the level I´m happy.

Go to a gun shop and get some bird shot. Works quite well.

Rich

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Posted by Forty Niner on Monday, December 27, 2010 3:37 PM

Why would he want to "shoot" his engine???

Mark

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