That one is still goign through as well, they were just talkign about it on the LDSIG group on Yahoo. I didn;t see this but they CLAIM the Kalmbach sponsored one is excluding e-zines and podcasts and other modern media. Again, I did not see this stated by anyone from Kalmbach so I don;t klnow if it's true or what the deal is, although how or why they woudl exclude any content provider from adding to a universal index escapes me. ANd then on one hand they say it wouldn;t be right if it was behind a site that required logins (which the Kalmbahc one seems to not be - they didn't say it would be subscriber-only) yet turn around and say if the NMRA hosts it it wouldn't be so awful if it was for NMRA members only.
Someone's got their information way out of whack here - I guess until January we won't know absolutely one way or the other.
--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more.
Last I heard the NMRA was going to do something. No idea whats been happening in the background. The index already had non-kalmbach publications like RMC and Traction and Models and others. I hope all that returns.
Someone was asking about Max Gray South Shore O scale cars, and I can't check the index, it will be thumbing thru back issues and I have lots of projects on the burner now, the quick search helps.... A LOT!!!!!!
Really, you have no idea how helpful the internet search has been, I would go researching in libraries on things, if I can't find something I go to interibrary loan to find a book or smidget of data in a book and all that takes WEEEKS if they even allow the book out....
Someone on ebay was selling some trolley street track, I never heard or saw of it before, neither the seller I did some internet snooping and found the maker in a short amount of time and even told the seller and he thanked me and would add the data to to the listing. Believe me, the MR mag index HELPS. Get it back ASAP!!!!!!
I for one, am grateful for the rebirth of the Model Train Magazine Index.
We, as Kalmbach's clients, have found the index to be the "where to-find-it resource" while Kalmbach has given one more compelling reason for model railroaders to come to the website => Win/Win.
Plus, if another publisher, say Carstens, wishes to keep their issues up-to-date going forward, then the due diligence is up to them, to do the data entry for their own magazine => Win/Win/Win.
Thank You to Kalmbach!
Conemaugh Road & Traction circa 1956
I also download MRR Hobbyist (but am a loyal MR subscriber also) every 2 months. I make a back up disc of each year now, to preserve the data, if not the functional links. I would be right up there with many others in buying a compilation disc set of MR- a yearly purchase plan would work fine, with a set of back issues discs from the 1950s thru the 2000s. I am sure there is a vendor out there that could see their way to working with Kalmbach on this. If they can do it for Trains..... etc.
Cedarwoodron
Sometimes, if you complain enough, things get done
This is indeed great news all around and will be a welcome and needed resource for all in the hobby. I suspect we made need some volunteers for the defunct print magazines who won't have any staff around to make the entries into the tool. And I REALLY hope the ones STILL in business contribute their information and don't push it off as "why should we do anything to help the guys at Kalmbach" This index doesn't benefit one particular publisher, it benefits ALL of us.
Well, I'm glad to see it back. Kudos to Kalmbach.
Enjoy
Paul
Cheers
Roger T.
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It is indeed great news that the index is coming back - I have missed that index.
I wouldn't worry overly much about whether the Model Railroad Hobbyist eZine gets invited to contribute to the new index or not - downloaded computer files can always be searched fairly quickly anyways. But I wouldn't get surprised if they also eventually get invited to take part in the new index as well.
Anyways - the important part is that it makes it a lot easier for me to locate old magazines with articles I would want to read, so I can order back issues when they seem relevant.
Smile, Stein
Rich, how old was the F150, mine is 10 years old but only has 150k, still runs like new.
I like new when it is truely better, but I'm not much impressed with change just for change sake, and I'm only 53.
Sheldon
This is really great news. I have MR's back to the 1950's and the index sure did help. I am glad they could bring it back.
Elmer.
The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.
(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.
ATLANTIC CENTRAL richg1998: I hope they will consider including E-Zines which I doubt they will. Kalmbach has been good over the years but are still in the Analog age. This is the Digital age. Some online site will do that someday as E-Zines are the wave of the future, like it or not. Rich Well, now it shows up on the forum - great news! Rich, you may like E-Zines, and I even read one - at least some of it anyway, but as long as they print them and mail them I will buy them and keep them. I know, instead of having anything we can actually own or touch, lets just lay down in a bed, hook up to a computer, and build/run trains in "matrix land". But what do I know, I'm just hick with a pickup, some guns, and some trains without brains. Sheldon
richg1998: I hope they will consider including E-Zines which I doubt they will. Kalmbach has been good over the years but are still in the Analog age. This is the Digital age. Some online site will do that someday as E-Zines are the wave of the future, like it or not. Rich
I hope they will consider including E-Zines which I doubt they will.
Kalmbach has been good over the years but are still in the Analog age. This is the Digital age.
Some online site will do that someday as E-Zines are the wave of the future, like it or not.
Rich
Well, now it shows up on the forum - great news!
Rich, you may like E-Zines, and I even read one - at least some of it anyway, but as long as they print them and mail them I will buy them and keep them.
I know, instead of having anything we can actually own or touch, lets just lay down in a bed, hook up to a computer, and build/run trains in "matrix land".
But what do I know, I'm just hick with a pickup, some guns, and some trains without brains.
I am a seventy year old Geezer, yeah that is redundant, who still plays with trains. I love to see change happening. I use the best of both worlds and the world is changing fast.
The F150 fell apart a year ago.
Like Uncle John's Bathroom reader series says, Go With the Flow.
If you ever fall over in public, pick yourself up and say “sorry it’s been a while since I inhabited a body.” And just walk away.
This is great news.
As for electronic versions - I would go for it in a heartbeat. We had this discussion before. So as of January, I can come here, search the index for what I'm trying to find, and then go grab the approriate issue from my rather large collection - luckily I have them in binders by year. With an electronic version on DVD, in less spce than taken by about 4 years worth of printed magazines (counting the size of my computer as well as the DVDs) I can search an index there (I would assume any electronic form offered would have a content index, otherwise why bother?) and immediately open up the article in question. Quicker, easier, and a whole lot faster. Plus if I wanted to print a plan to work from - I'd also have the ability to scale the printing, say iof the plan was drawn half size for HO, I could print it out double and be done. No going to find a copier that can do scaling, or scanning it in then resizing and reprinting. And if I messed up my printed copy - just print another!
richg1998 I hope they will consider including E-Zines which I doubt they will. Kalmbach has been good over the years but are still in the Analog age. This is the Digital age. Some online site will do that someday as E-Zines are the wave of the future, like it or not. Rich
Well, this is very good news and will keep me a loyal Kamlbach customer.
I would still BUY a disc if it was offered as I have little faith in the long term availablity of ANY information on the Web.
Also it it interesting that I could not find the page you linked to directly from this site - why is it hidden?
Another forum which is part of a on line magazine was working to make this index and discussion suddenly died so something was happening behind the scenes.
What a relief! I have the old Stephenson indexes for MR and RMC from years ago but that left a couple of decades unindexed -- meaning for MR I had to laboriously flip through their paper indexes (noticing by the way that obviously different people with quite different priorities and talents had done the indexing over various years) and basically SOL for RMC not to mention the "other" magazines, some of which of course no longer exist.
I guess the various cries of anguish expressed on this Forum were heard.
Dave Nelson
Found in a Yahoo Group forum.
http://trc.trains.com/modeltrainindex