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Posted by bobwrght on Thursday, November 25, 2010 6:35 AM

On all my steam engines with wires and plugs i make a cap or retainer for the drawbar stud so the drawbar will stay on the tender  while moving the engine around. On the shaft from the tender i take a piece of 12-14ga wire covering or small tube and press it on to the end of the shaft. Works very well.

Bob

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Posted by richg1998 on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:32 PM

Good troubleshooting. I like it when a plan comes together. Try to be careful in the future. These things can be rather delicate.

Rich

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Posted by mccabs on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:03 PM

actually pulled it off. I took out this microscopic metal piece, stuck the wire in and crimped it shut. Inserted the metal piece back into it's tiny spot and the thing actually worked.

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Posted by mccabs on Monday, November 22, 2010 3:41 PM

got a tip from the guy @ walthers. he said to follow the wires and try to bypass the plug in and direct wire the loose wire. haven't tried it yet but seems to give me another option

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:32 PM

These connections are crimped at the factory. If the pin with attached wire pulled out, check the locking tab and insert back into the plastic housing. You might try to order a new wiring assembly. I had to do that with a Spectrum steamer.

If the wire broke loose from the metal part in the plastic housing, you might be able to solder the wire back on with a pencil iron with a pointed solder tip iron. Going to be a challenge.

If you have the proper tool, you can push the metal part out of the plastic housing and solder the wire in place. Then push the assembly back together.

Some years ago in aircraft wiring we use to repair connectors like this but had the proper tools and new pins but much of the wire was #22 or larger.

Your situation is much smaller. Manufactures do not tell us that this type of wiring is quite delicate and we should handle these locos carefully.

Rich

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:17 PM

The metal pin or socket has locking tab(s) that keep it in the plastic housing. The plastic housing should have little holes showing the tab. using a pin push down on the tab while using another pin to push the pin/socket from the rear out the front. Once you get it out, feed the wire thru the plug and solder it to the pin/socket, bend the tab back up a little and then pull the wire back into the plug, it should click when it's home.

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Posted by bobwrght on Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:54 PM

The wire inside the plastic plug was connected to a female pin or male connector, then it  is locks into the plasic housing. It won't be easy but you will have to reconnect the wire to the inside piece in the plug. In most cases it is much easier to get a new plug with the wires attached. If you get lucky at pulling the end in the housing out you can solder it to the end of the wire and press it back into the housing.

Bob

 

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Posted by mccabs on Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:00 AM

THE PLUG IS WHITE PLASTIC WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER WIRES RUNNING INTO IT. IT'S OBVIOUS WHICH WIRE HOLE IT GOES INTO. JUST WONDERED IF THERE'S A SECRET TO THE INSTALL.

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Posted by mccabs on Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:57 AM

HO SCALE PROTO 2000 HERITAGE STEAM BERKSHIRE. ONLY ONE WIRE IS LOOSE FROM THE PLUG. SEEMS LIKE ALL I NEED TO DO IS STICK IT BACK IN BUT WONDERED IF THERE'S A SMALL METAL CONNECTOR THAT IS REMOVEABLE TO RE-ATTACH OR SOLDER TO, THEN STICK IT BACK IN. THANKS

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Posted by chugg on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:15 PM

Is the whole connector pulled out or is the wire broken?

What is the composition of the plug?

Philip

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Posted by richg1998 on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:05 PM

Loco brand, model, scale?

Rich

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tender plug wire
Posted by mccabs on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:24 PM

anyone have any experience repairing a loose wire in a tender plug. Noticed one is out of the plug and wongered if there is a secret to fixing it.

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