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6000 sq ft, what to do?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 7:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GDRMCo

There is now a new problem in my way. We will be moving by the end of this year and the new house has no space for a large layout except in my bedroom.

Well, welcome back to reality, GDRMCo.

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Posted by GDRMCo on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 6:45 PM
There is now a new problem in my way. We will be moving by the end of this year and the new house has no space for a large layout except in my bedroom.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 1:55 PM
N scale or HO scale are probably your best bets. You should form a club like some others have suggested. If you have enough space go ahead and model Santa Fe L.A to Chicago with DCC. But I suggest you do what you want to with your layout. Heck you could make it just one big yard if you wanted to. Although I think a long stretch of two tracks is a better idea. Just my 2 cents.

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Posted by bnsfkline on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 1:45 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 12:52 PM
do it in N or Z scale! no You should just do it in like small 200 sqaure feet sections and keep adding.
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Posted by darth9x9 on Saturday, July 3, 2004 9:55 PM
Heck, with that much room I would build a live steam switching layout! Switching solutions won't be so obvious when you don't have a bird's eye view on it......just like the prototype.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 3, 2004 8:29 PM
Model the ultimate RR,The Late, The Great, New York Central, or the New Haven.
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Posted by coal drag on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:59 PM
First off get a tax number and start a "hobby shop" so you can buy supplies at dealer cost. You also want to start a "construction company" so you can get builders discount at the lumber yard. As far as what type of layout, let your dreams come true !!
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Posted by brothaslide on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:20 PM
Just curious - Are the owners of the house (i.e. parents) aware of your intentions to transform the tennis court into a model railroad empire?
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Posted by Roadtrp on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:21 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by up9899

go with a modern U.P. HO scale layout--nothing better than that

My HO equipment always ran poorly after being rained on.

Sounds like he's contemplating an open-air garden railroad on I assume a paved tennis court.

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Posted by Roadtrp on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:55 PM
None of these guys are thinking BIG enough. I'd buy an old 1:1 scale full dome car passenger car and turn it into the coolest rec-room anyone has ever seen!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:46 PM
go with a modern U.P. HO scale layout--nothing better than that
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Posted by krump on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:34 AM
Garden Railway

cheers, krump

 "TRAIN up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it" ... Proverbs 22:6

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:50 AM
I would model the Clinchfield Railroad including the clinchfield loops with that much space.

It was less than 300 miles in it's entirety but had a LOT of interesting scenery and towns as well as the loops to gain the elevation to cross the smokey mountains.
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Posted by Jetrock on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:34 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GDRMCo
I do, its in the form of a 50'X120' tennis court outside my home.


Okay, so it's an outdoor layout. In that case about the only scale you want to consider is G or other large-scale "garden" layout. I don't know how heavy-duty the weather gets where you live but generally unless you live a very comfortable, temperate climate garden railroading is only a fair-weather hobby. Large-scale equipment is very expensive so you'd better start mowing lawns, unless your parents, already willing to give you a tennis court, also give you a very prodigious allowance. I don't know much about Australian winters but anything smaller than O scale is likely to blow away. Plastic items will definitely melt in the summer. It's going to be expensive and a lot of work.

How experienced are you with modeling? Have you considered building a small, indoor layout instead of a monster outdoor layout? With so much space to work with, and the resources of a 12 year old, you'll be finished with college before you're halfway finished with the layout--why not work on a small layout in a bedroom or shed that you can complete before you're old enough to vote?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:59 PM
If it's a tennis court is this outside or covered over?

If it's outside your best bet is for a nice G Scale Layout, perhaps a double mainline and a couple yards and whatnot.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:44 PM
Ahh a tennis court is it inclosed i suspect not but if you have that kind of space definatly model a major class one but dont model the up they might come after you demanding royalties for such a large layout depicting them... but model the bnsf norfolk southern or just go crazy and go free lance you dont have to model something down to every mail box number that it may represent but if some one were to look at it they would immediatly associate it with that region,,,,well im only 15 and i have a 6x8 that took me almost 3 years to complete i would suspect your layout might need some help but good luck what ever you do and when its complete in oh say a few years dont forget to come back and post some pics we would all love to see this masterpeice
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Posted by Jacktal on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:19 PM
My club's "N" scale layout is 20' X 16' (320 sq.ft.) and yet about two thirds of this is actually benchwork.We are planning improvements,the most important one being the elimination of the duckunder entry by opening one of the ends.Replanning the trackwork so the layout stays practical and reframing the workbench will be quite time consuming,and still,this is nothing compared to the project you have in mind.I suggest you think twice about it.
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Posted by wlbankes on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 6:05 PM
i would look at all of what everyone says and think long on what you do. i would not run n scale with that much space to fill. i might go with HO scale because of the availabity on what is on the market to model with. also start with a small layout and expand it as you want to, don't try to fill the whole area up at once. i would have a very nice workshop. i would think about a club of friends if you don't want to do it by yourself, just be sure they are people that you can get along with.

AND REMEMBER THAT THE WHOLE POINT IS TO HAVE FUN DOING IT ABOVE ALL ELSE GOOD LUCK
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:42 PM

Model Chicago!!!

Start near the center of the space and radiate outward. Have commuter trains, passenger trains, and freight trains. All roads, any era, with staging at the ends of each line.

On the other hand, since you are only 12 and are going to be playing outside, get a G scale set and some extra track and have fun, but watch out for tennis balls.[swg]
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Posted by brothaslide on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GDRMCo
I'm still only 12 so the layout will last me a long time.


Well. . . Forget the home equity loan. Start mowing a lot of lawns, walking the neighbors dogs, washing cars, etc. . . . and put a shrimp on the barbie for the rest of us (just kidding!)

Start out small and grow your layout as your skills and experience grow.

Good Luck!!!
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Posted by GDRMCo on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 4:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by philnrunt

Do you really have 6,000 sq ft or is this a" make us put on our thinking caps" kind of question?

6,000 sq ft, eh? Buy some real track, get an SD70MAC and back it up and down...no, no, that's just CRAZEE!

I do, its in the form of a 50'X120' tennis court outside my home.

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Posted by GDRMCo on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 4:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bluepuma

What railroad do you know best, love most?

What locos are on your most wanted list?

What scenes do you most want to have?
1. Since I live in Darwin Aus you would think I would like to model the North-South Ry. but that is not the case. I'm still only 12 so the layout will last me a long time. The RR I know best is Queensland Rail and its mainline between Charters Towers (a place I have lived at) and Townsville (another place I have lived at)

2.The locos I most want would be all the locos that operated from CT to Tville.

3.The big bridge over the Burdiken River.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 4:26 PM
I'd suggest modelling in O scale. With that much space HO locos will take ages to tour the layout at sensible speeds! You have space there for full-length O-scale intermodals, though cost may become a problem there - you can buy a few HO cars for the price of one O-scale one. My favoured comparison is that for the price of one Weaver O-scale loco I can buy two or three Athearn HO examples. Full-scale coal drags are also an option, though you'll spend ages renumbering cars - most RTR examples only have three or four different numbers!
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Posted by philnrunt on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 4:05 PM
Do you really have 6,000 sq ft or is this a" make us put on our thinking caps" kind of question?

6,000 sq ft, eh? Buy some real track, get an SD70MAC and back it up and down...no, no, that's just CRAZEE!
For me, this would be having too many options, because you could literally model ANY RR you want! A switching terminal, fed by as many Class 1's as you would want, would be neat, using your home power to collect and distribute cars to various yards, alot of switching and mainline running, like the BRC or Gateway.
Or you could just rent space to modelers without any.
Let us know what you decide, and know that we all envy you, you lucky dog!
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Posted by bluepuma on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:37 PM
ATSF Chicago to LA, UP, Chicago LA, BNSF to Seattle, NS or Conrail, NYC NYC to Chicago.
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Posted by Noah Hofrichter on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:18 PM
Just make sure what ever you decide that you'll have fun with it, it's not supposed to be a chore. Ask for help as you need it on here and in person to people in your area, and you might try formign a club, if that's what you really want to do. Each person is different, so I don't know if what people here suggest will be what your looking for, but Good luck!

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Posted by bluepuma on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:58 PM
What railroad do you know best, love most?

What locos are on your most wanted list?

What scenes do you most want to have?

I'd pick two end points for a point to point with loops for continous running. Build that part, connect them with plane rail, add the other parts in sections, keep moving the end points further apart, expanding the yard tracks such at each end.

Do you really want to gather a group of people just to run trains?

What buildings fit the time/place, what is available in the scale? Everything else must
be scratch built. Where can you use what is available?

Terrain, mostly flat, mountains, trees? Money?

You've got to make a list of what you want, focus on just that. Maybe you should seal off the extra space until you need it. - Tom

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