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Finally, a movie about Trains
Posted by IVRW on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 9:07 PM

Just watch the trailer once, and you'll be hooked!

http://www.unstoppablemovie.com/

Tell me what you think? I think its going to be the most awesome movie ever!

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 9:21 PM

That I gotta see!

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Posted by trainman6446 on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:09 PM

Looks good! I am sure there will be inaccuracies, but don't most movies have them?

Ill have to go see it.

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:09 PM

I don't know if I'll go with "most awesome movie ever" but still looks pretty good.  Tony Scott knows how to put an action flick together.  Still, I don't know whether it's worth the $75 to take my family.  On Demand is only $5, and Netflix is, essentially, free.

 I remember the original incident -- it wasn't nearly that dramatic.Here is a link to the alleged CSX final incident report from a Railfan site:  http://kohlin.com/CSX8888/z-final-report.htm  The funny part is, the caption says, "The Culprit" and shows a photo of CSX #8888; it should show a photo of the engineer.

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:15 PM

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Posted by Flashwave on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 11:12 PM

CTValleyRR

I don't know if I'll go with "most awesome movie ever" but still looks pretty good.  Tony Scott knows how to put an action flick together.  Still, I don't know whether it's worth the $75 to take my family.  On Demand is only $5, and Netflix is, essentially, free.

 I remember the original incident -- it wasn't nearly that dramatic.Here is a link to the alleged CSX final incident report from a Railfan site:  http://kohlin.com/CSX8888/z-final-report.htm  The funny part is, the caption says, "The Culprit" and shows a photo of CSX #8888; it should show a photo of the engineer.

My first fear is what the NIM(rods)Bys have to say to such a thing...

If the engine failed, ain;t nuthin' that engineer could've done. Hostorical event huh?

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 11:24 PM

I'm in who cares about inaccuracy's it's entertainment but then I'll be the watching it on DVD one night and my wife will constantly be saying it's only a movie

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Posted by Motley on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 12:54 AM

This is a little bit of old news, the trailer has been out for a month or two.

Nevertheless, it's going to be a great action train movie. And Denzel Washington is one of my favorite actors.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 8:24 AM

Flashwave

 CTValleyRR:

I don't know if I'll go with "most awesome movie ever" but still looks pretty good.  Tony Scott knows how to put an action flick together.  Still, I don't know whether it's worth the $75 to take my family.  On Demand is only $5, and Netflix is, essentially, free.

 I remember the original incident -- it wasn't nearly that dramatic.Here is a link to the alleged CSX final incident report from a Railfan site:  http://kohlin.com/CSX8888/z-final-report.htm  The funny part is, the caption says, "The Culprit" and shows a photo of CSX #8888; it should show a photo of the engineer.

 

My first fear is what the NIM(rods)Bys have to say to such a thing...

If the engine failed, ain;t nuthin' that engineer could've done. Hostorical event huh?

Actually once a train goes out of control there is very little the engineer can do to stop it.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 8:26 AM

CTValleyRR

I don't know if I'll go with "most awesome movie ever" but still looks pretty good.  Tony Scott knows how to put an action flick together.  Still, I don't know whether it's worth the $75 to take my family.  On Demand is only $5, and Netflix is, essentially, free.

 I remember the original incident -- it wasn't nearly that dramatic.Here is a link to the alleged CSX final incident report from a Railfan site:  http://kohlin.com/CSX8888/z-final-report.htm  The funny part is, the caption says, "The Culprit" and shows a photo of CSX #8888; it should show a photo of the engineer.

Actually CSX is the culprit since they happily cut the crew size over the years to a almost unsafe level..

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 10:30 AM

WEll it looks like an interesting movie, purely from a "like trains" standpoint.

I think I shall see it, but when it comes out later,not in the theater.

But I wonder how much fear of unmanned or runaway trains it will cause among those ordinary citizens who hate waiting trains at a crossing. Or those who fear what is in those RR cars and tankers flashing by. It won't exactly be showing trains and Railroads in the "best possible light" based on real incident or not...

 

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Posted by pike-62 on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 10:48 AM

IVRW

Tell me what you think? I think its going to be the most awesome movie ever!

Pretty bold statement. Not sure if "most awesome movie ever" fits, but entertaining for sure. I will go to see it mostly because a lot of the rail scenes were filmed quite litteraly in my back yard. Many of the scenes in the trailer looked familiar.  The trainload of kids were from a local school. a couple parents of the kids work with me so it is something special to them as well. The interesting thing I got from them was the fact that the filming for the kids took place over a 4 day period. Each day the kids had to show up in the same clothing as the filming sequence would be edited down to a short time span from 1 day.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 10:49 AM

galaxy

WEll it looks like an interesting movie, purely from a "like trains" standpoint.

I think I shall see it, but when it comes out later,not in the theater.

But I wonder how much fear of unmanned or runaway trains it will cause among those ordinary citizens who hate waiting trains at a crossing. Or those who fear what is in those RR cars and tankers flashing by. It won't exactly be showing trains and Railroads in the "best possible light" based on real incident or not...

 

Good point but,there's been other shows and one that comes readily to mind is "Train Wrecks" that was hosted by John Bunnell..

That was a one sided piece of work  that over dramatised by Mr.Bunnell .

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Posted by Medina1128 on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 5:05 PM

I'm thinking that unless you have a really nice surround sound system, this is a movie that must be seen on the big screen. To feel the awesome power of this movie. I think a tour on a static (albeit) powered locomotive should be part of every driver education course. I had no idea of the sheer power of one, until I stood on one; and it was just idling. If people had a better idea of the power of one, they MIGHT be less inclined to beat one at a railroad crossing.

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 9:00 PM

I totally agree that without a $10G home theater system, the movie theater experience can't be beat.

That said, by the time I've shelled out $8.50 each for my wife, myself, and my oldest son, and $7 each for the younger two boys; add in popcorn ($5 for a small cup) and soda ($3 for a small), and I've already made a nice installment payment on that home theater system.. It takes one heck of a movie to make me want to shell out that kind of dough, no matter what the experience is like.

I know it will get a whole bunch of paranoid yutzes confusing Hollywood with reality.  The real incident was a freak chain of errors by the engineer (at least, according to the report), and CSX insists that they have made changes to prevent it from occurring again.  Still, when have people preferred facts when rumor and legend are so much more fun?

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Posted by frontierfan on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 9:50 PM

The movie kinda has a personel touch for me all the GE,s are CP and came thru our shop before and after the movie so I can hardly wait to see the movie!!

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Posted by teen steam fan on Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:27 AM

Sounds alot better than some movies I've been drug to see. Looks cool though. 

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Posted by galaxy on Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:36 AM

Medina1128

I'm thinking that unless you have a really nice surround sound system, this is a movie that must be seen on the big screen. To feel the awesome power of this movie.

 

CTValleyRR

I totally agree that without a $10G home theater system, the movie theater experience can't be beat.

That said, by the time I've shelled out $8.50 each for my wife, myself, and my oldest son, and $7 each for the younger two boys; add in popcorn ($5 for a small cup) and soda ($3 for a small), and I've already made a nice installment payment on that home theater system.. It takes one heck of a movie to make me want to shell out that kind of dough, no matter what the experience is like.

 

We have a surround sound 5 speaker theater system that holds 5 Dvds, will play music Cds, and will show off Kodak Photo cds from Yamaha and only cost us only $75.  It does very well at producing a nice surround sound experience-even to rattling walls and shaking the floor when something like a train goes rumbling by in a movie. No need to spend a fortune like $10 grand and the cost of one family outting to the theater will pay for the entire system! Home "media centers" or "theater systems" that cost a fortune are overrated as far as we are concerned...and hey, think of all the money a good $75 system will save that could go to model trains!!!

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Posted by pastorbob on Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:47 AM

Must admit that we don't see a lot of movies because of the content of most of them today, but this one, I have to see.  It appears that they "sacrificed" some ATSF warbonnets in it, which doesn't set well with me, but do have to see it.  I remember my dad going through a crash of two diesels way back when he was still alive and still working for Santa Fe, but nothing as dramatic as this movie seems to be.  But then Hollywood doesn't always reflect true life.

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Posted by frontierfan on Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:52 AM

ATSF warbonnents were they the sd40,s the GE,s were our CP units

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, September 9, 2010 9:16 AM
This movie is the typical garbage put out by Hollywood now a days. Very far from the original situation.

I like trains but this requires you to suspend disbelief more than I am capable of.
Probably good for children who do not know any better.
I have the original article with the photo of the chase loco, engineer, conductor and the worker who jumped on the runaway loco when slowed enough by the chase loco.

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Posted by RedLeader on Thursday, September 9, 2010 9:54 AM

Did you notice how similiar the herald in front of the runaway loco looks to the Santa Fe.  Also instead of being engine #888 it is #777.  Movies "based on real events" are as faithful to the real event as dreams are to reality.  Remember the movie Outbreak "based on real events" of the Reston, Va. Ebola infected lab monkeys case.  But it sure seems like a very entertaining movie.  Let's see what kind of odd Hollywood_physics laws are they going to use...

 

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:35 AM

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Did you notice how similiar the herald in front of the runaway loco looks to the Santa Fe.

Yep looks a lot like the Santa Fe "cigar band".  Noticed this after seeing photos posted online when they were filming this.

 

 

Looks to be an interesting movie, one that I might go and see just because it is about trains.  But it also looks to have "borrowed" a few scenes from the movie Runaway Train and the made for TV movie Atomic Train.

Also, I don't want to be mean here, but the few clips showing Rosario Dawson looks to be bad over acting.

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Posted by Flashwave on Thursday, September 9, 2010 12:47 PM

CTValleyRR

I know it will get a whole bunch of paranoid yutzes confusing Hollywood with reality.  The real incident was a freak chain of errors by the engineer (at least, according to the report), and CSX insists that they have made changes to prevent it from occurring again.  Still, when have people preferred facts when rumor and legend are so much more fun?

FOr the guy who was at best not out of diapes when this happened, wha really happened?

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:34 PM

 The old thread linked a few messages back had a link to the actual story.

CLiff Notes: Engineer goofed, thought he had the throttle in the correct position, dismounted the loco to throw the switch ahead, unfortunately he had the throttle in run 7 not dynamic and by the time he realized it the loco was moving too fast for him to climb back on.

Sure this wouldn;t have happened with an additional crewmember, but neither woudl it have happened if the engineer hadn't dismounted a moving loco, which surely has to be against the rules no matter how often it was done anyway as a timesaver. Short cut the rules and it WILL bite you in the butt sometime.

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Posted by cndash9 on Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:19 PM

IVRW

Just watch the trailer once, and you'll be hooked!

http://www.unstoppablemovie.com/

Tell me what you think? I think its going to be the most awesome movie ever!

I'm hooked!!!  I'll be there opening night Big Smile

Thanks for the link

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Thursday, September 9, 2010 6:48 PM

Flashwave

 CTValleyRR:

I know it will get a whole bunch of paranoid yutzes confusing Hollywood with reality.  The real incident was a freak chain of errors by the engineer (at least, according to the report), and CSX insists that they have made changes to prevent it from occurring again.  Still, when have people preferred facts when rumor and legend are so much more fun?

 

FOr the guy who was at best not out of diapes when this happened, wha really happened?

My first post on this thread had a link to the accident report.  You could probably Google it, too.

Short answer is that the loco was switching the yard, with 47 cars in consist.  Conductor and brakeman were already on the ground lining switches, or coupling cars, or something.  The engineer was moving at something like 10 mph when he noticed a switch wasn't lined correctly.  He realized that he wouldn't stop short of the switch using the brakes, so he tried to set the dynamic brake, but didn't do it correctly, so when he notched up the throttle to apply the dynamic brakes, he actually throttled up.  By the time he had lined the switch, the train was moving too fast, and he couldn't get back on.  The train travelled something like 60 miles at 45 mph before another loco coupled on the rear and slowed it down enough that an engineer could jump on board and stop the runaway.  Especially note that there was no mention of any hazardous cargos in the consist.

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Posted by twhite on Thursday, September 9, 2010 7:50 PM

Ummm--it's a MOVIE, guys!   Movies are about entertainment (and hopefully making money for the releasing studio).   Movies don't need to be accurate about anything, all they need to do is entertain. 

How about the 1960's movie THE TRAIN which has been touted as one of the best train movies ever filmed.  You remember that one--the Germans pack a train full of French art during the fall of Paris in 1944 and send it toward Germany.  The whole movie is about stopping the train without destroying that precious art cargo.  *** good movie!  Thrilling, with some of the best train photography ever filmed.  Wrecks galore, bombings, strafings, derailments--everything that you'd ever want in a WWII action film about trains, right?

Yah, well, in the historical context of the whole thing, the train never got out of the Paris yards due to the French railways and the Maquis purposely mixing up the orders for the train to even get GOING!  The train sat in the railyards and was liberated by the Allies without the locomotive turning a wheel.  Okay, that's a fact.  Now what kind of neat drama is THAT going to make for a movie, if you want to watch trains galloping around the countryside, huh?Stick out tongue

So--I'm going to go see the movie.  If it's 'accurate', okay.  If it makes for good, exciting drama, even better.  If it does BOTH, then I say "Wow!"   But I'm not going to get all anal if it's not 'according to railroad practice.'   Hollywood doesn't do that.  You either accept it or you don't.  Movies are made to entertain and make money for the studio. 

I don't think I've EVER seen an accurate Movie, no matter what the subject matter.  That hasn't stopped me from going to see--and either enjoy or laugh at-- movies for the past 60 years. 

It's an ENTERTAINMENT medium. 

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:20 PM

 True, to a point. It IS entertainment, and some suspension of disbelief is required. But it's the subject matter, and the format (not to mention the splashign around of "true story! true story!").

Take a typical action/western/mob movie, where the hero gets, I dunno, 30-40 shots ouf of a pair of .45 ACP's withotu reloading. Yeah, I notice, but it doesn't bother me that much. A real gun fanatic, it drives them nuts. Now we have a train movie. ANyone remotely knowledgable about trains (say, I dunno, everyoen here?) will easily see the goofs and in a way it sorta ruins the movie. It's the "they could have at least done x and got it right" factor. The general public action movie fan won't even notice. Just liek the general public never saw the modern double stack pass over a 1950's scene in Ray. Heck my ex father in law who retired after a lifetime career on the railroad didn't notice it until I rewound and replayed the scene.

 This is why I best like SF and fantasy movies - if it's set 1000 years from now, who's to say they WON'T have what is shown?

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Posted by danmerkel on Friday, September 10, 2010 3:50 PM

pike-62

 IVRW:

Tell me what you think? I think its going to be the most awesome movie ever!

 

...I will go to see it mostly because a lot of the rail scenes were filmed quite litteraly in my back yard. Many of the scenes in the trailer looked familiar... 

You must be from Bellaire.  I grew up in Tiltonsville but now live in Findlay, Ohio.  The original runaway almost went through my back yard...

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