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Changing Scales
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:57 PM
I myself currently have HO, S, and O scales in my home. I'm planning on selling the "O" Lionel for G scale equipment for outside and I am in the process of buildin an "S" scale layout in my home office. For some reason I just enjoy the larger scales more for their size.
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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Sunday, June 27, 2004 2:54 PM
Personally I'll stay with S. While a G layout in a building of say 50' x 100' would be fun, I'm afraid I don't have the time to build it or maintain it. One of the neat things about doing S in 11'x18' is just puttering along when I feel like it. Laying track, running trains, building a kit - whatever. The larger scales are seductive, but where do you stop? When G seems too small, you move up to 1 inch then 1 1/2 inch then 3 inch.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:57 PM
I'm currently in HO, but I'd switch to O if space and money were not a problem. There's a very nice O-Scale US layout in Continental Modeller (July 2004 Issue) which uses full DCC control - those Overland brass factory-painted locos are beautiful! Interestingly this layout takes up 16ft by 8ft and has a full oval of track as well as assorted sidings, so space is evidently not a massive problem. I'd also consider G-scale, but I prefer the proportions of O where standard-gauge locos are concerned, though I do have a small collection of G-scale German narrow-gauge equipment (LGB).
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 4:39 PM
I changed scales already. I had O scale. I got screwed in that scale. When all of the manufacturers went over seas everything turned into junk. Bad circuit boards, never could find the train line you wanted, waited months for repairs, couplers wouldn't uncouple or worse yet stay coupled. I went to HO went I learned I could couple/uncouple cars using Kaydee magnets and couplers. Much better than O scale. I can even find the train cars I want, instead of waiting years for someone to produce them. O scale looks great, has neat options, but options fail! I even had my KW burn up all the switches on layout. It was too costly even for me. I enjoy HO when it runs well, I tolerate some of the minor nuisances now that I know how to fix them.
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Posted by Yampa2003 on Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:02 PM
I changed up from N to HO about 4 years ago, but am now starting on a portable N scale layout as well as building a permanent HO scale layout. I'd love to have an outdoor G scale layout as well, preferably live steam / radio controlled diesels.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:09 PM
I am currently in N-scale. Even with more funds, my major limitation would be that I have limited time to work on my layout. Because of that, my smaller layout will actually allow me to get the layout to this or that stage much more quickly than if I filled a room with one. So even though I am limited somewhat by space and money, I am more limited by time.

How that relates to scale is that I will be detailing the layout and rolling stock as well as the scale will allow. For example, I will paint the face and hair of an N-scale person, while I will paint the face, hair, eyebrows, and lips of an HO-scale person, and I will paint the face, hair, eyebrows, lips, eyes, nostrils, scars, beards, mustaches, etc. on an O-scale person. So in N-scale, I have 12 1/2 sq. ft. worth of scenery to put together for the amount of running and operation I have, while in HO scale, I would have 50 sq. ft., and in O-scale, I would have something along the lines of 200 sq. ft.

Now, if space and money really weren't an issue, I might also have a place where I'd have someone come in and build the whole layout for me, and have several people operate it with me. But I would still probably stay with N-scale. The engines and DCC are to a point where they can run well enough for smooth operating sessions. And even with a big room, you can take advantage of a train to scenery ratio that will really draw you in.

And something that I've noticed on alot of medium to large HO layouts is that the distance between passing sidings or from one major stop to another is little more than a train length or two. While the layouts I have in mind are terrific, nothing to be ashamed of, and something that I would LOVE to join in on the operation, an N-scale layout of the same design in the same amount of space would allow the trains to "stretch their legs" a little more, and it would give more of a sense of distance between points.

Of course, if space and money truly wasn't an issue, one could upscale a building and make it in HO or O, but if you did that, you would find yourself walking quite a ways, trying to keep up with the train, instead of casually walking around, watching it. So, I would still keep it in N-scale to get a more stretched out style of running, while keeping the comfort factor in mind.

But that's me...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:27 PM
Nah, I'd just increase the size of my layout. Get a few more towns and some real space between them.

I'm in HO, and no other scale offers a good selection of the oddball diesels my road ran in my era.
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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:49 PM
Even if I had unlimited space, I'd still be in HO. HO is the scale.

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Posted by ddechamp71 on Monday, June 28, 2004 8:01 AM
Guys, this poll misses an item: where is Z scale? I'm myself involved with Z and am very happy with this scale. But I should switch to G if my time planning would allow: I currently live in an appartment (where Z scale is completely OK), but as I have an house in the country I begin working on a modular Z scale layout.
BUT, BUT, BUT, as I have a 70000 square feet garden with that house, I think I'll extend my modelrailroading passion to G scale. But what lacks me for now is spare time: I'm only in that house about 5 to 6 days a month. To comply with this, I'll have to wait for retirement, in 20 to 25 years....
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 28, 2004 6:08 PM
Originally posted by ddechamp71

Guys, this poll misses an item: where is Z scale? I'm myself involved with Z and am very happy with this scale. But I should switch to G if my time planning would allow: I currently live in an appartment (where Z scale is completely OK), but as I have an house in the country I begin working on a modular Z scale layout.
BUT, BUT, BUT, as I have a 70000 square feet garden with that house, I think I'll extend my modelrailroading passion to G scale. But what lacks me for now is spare time: I'm only in that house about 5 to 6 days a month. To comply with this, I'll have to wait for retirement, in 20 to 25 years....
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ddechamp71, I didn't mention Z due to the Idea of going up in size. If you have Z and want to stay with it you would vote staying with current scale. ]
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, June 28, 2004 6:15 PM
Hey Matt,

Well I'm already in G doing 1/20.3, but as you know the saga of my ever shrinking layout LOL, if my 8' x 10' layout in the hobby area gets whittled down any more, I'm going to have to switch DOWN in scale to On30 ! If I had the room I would still stick to 1/20.3, the size and detail possible are too interesting to me to go ever go down is scale unless i had no other choice. Later.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 28, 2004 7:54 PM
Hey Vic, Hard choice especially with Bachmann's prices on On30! Real tempting![}:)][:D]
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Posted by bluepuma on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:23 PM
I'm in N, always liked the size, get tempted at times with some Ho stuff I'd like to have. I'd like to motorize my PCC die cast, near O scale, and run them through a city street in LA. Most of all, I'd like room for some of my most desired N scale scenes, and enough room between key scenes for a nice long 22 car train and passing sidings. LA/Long Beach harbor to Union Station to the yard at Colton, station at Riveside. I think there is not enough room for the layout I'd like to have in N scale, it would be a huge wheel. In reality, somewhere between 32 square feet and 96 square ft. of layout with narrow track connections maybe 10-16 ft. each linking each 3x6 or 18"x96" section.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:36 PM
I'm really suprised by the amount of people who would stay with the same scale! Must be diehards I guess. If you chose to stay with the same scale tell us which scale it is and why?
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Posted by on30francisco on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:35 PM
I model in On30 and really enjoy working in that scale. If I had the space I'd like to try Large Scale (G) and build an indoor logging narrow gauge railroad. I like the fantastic detailing possibilities available for O scale and G scale structures and trains. Plus for me the larger scales are easy to work with and run great!
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Posted by tomwatkins on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:00 PM
I'd stay with HO. It's big enough for me to detail as much as I want to. Availability of locomotives, rolling stock, structures and detailing parts is excellent. With more space and money I'd simply expand to increase the length of run, distance between towns, etc.

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Posted by ckape on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:18 PM
Well, the answer depends on what I'd like to do, given all the time, money, and space I need. For mainline modelling I'd stick with HO or move smaller. For traction modelling I'd probably want to move up to S or O scale, and I'd love a G scale outdoor logging railroad.
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Posted by tutaenui on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 4:18 AM
I would vote no. Changed to On30 10 years ago and see no need to change.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 8:26 AM
I was in O gauge for 7 years, spent thousands of dollars, have a 35x50 foot basement, but I am currently switching to N scale!

Why?

Because I started in trains with N scale. The stuff is cheaper, more reliable, and I can do more in less space.

I love the size of O gauge, but it is just too many headaches to deal with.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 4:37 PM
I'd stay with S scale as it offers great operation and still doesn't take a gym to build a decent sized layout.

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Posted by rexhea on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 4:56 PM
"O" would be a strong temptation, but considering all the goodies you can get with "HO'", I would stay HO.
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