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Scale telephone pole wires
Posted by jerryl on Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:13 AM

 Does anyone know where I can buy the elastic cord that is used for scale electrical wires? I know a magazine had an article concerning this a few years ago.   Thanks

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Posted by jrbernier on Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:28 AM

  Berkshire Jct has EZ Line phone wire:

http://www.berkshirejunction.com/scenery.htm

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Posted by tatans on Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:19 PM

Isn't the scale for HO telephone wires " invisible" ? Theoretically it would be impossible to see wires on a telephone pole or wires on a fence( that is, prototypically)

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:51 PM

 If you don't want to spring for the EZ wire, try latex thread available from a fabric store.  Yeah, I know.  I've never been to one of those myself.  But sometimes you've got to swallow your pride and walk past the aisles of pink pony pillows to find what you need.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:46 PM

 I tried something like that before. It did a great job of snaring the cat.Laugh

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Posted by shayfan84325 on Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:56 PM

tatans

Isn't the scale for HO telephone wires " invisible" ? Theoretically it would be impossible to see wires on a telephone pole or wires on a fence( that is, prototypically)

I've never measured the wires on utility poles, but they look about 1/2" in diameter to me.  That scales to .0057" for HO scale.  It's about the diameter of 6# test fishing line and about 2 1/2 times the diameter of a human hair.  Both are visible to me.

I saw a layout that had EZ wire and it really added a lot to the credibility.

 


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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, August 20, 2010 1:08 AM

Whatever you use, remember to let it hang in gentle catenary curves.  Even in the depths of a South Dakota winter, telephone wires don't draw up tight between poles.

I tend to favor 'virtual' wire (and 'virtual' catenary where my 1500VDC juice motors run.)  One (two) less things for the Awkward Squad to get their elbows into.

In the prototype world, telephone wires tend to 'disappear,' only to re-surface slashing across that beautiful scenic vista (or six-axle mobile generator unit) that you just photographed...

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Posted by Don Z on Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:21 AM

100 pair cable is just under one inch in diameter, and if my math is close...that would scale down to roughly 1/8" diameter for telephone cables. The power lines are much smaller; remember that the phone lines are usually about 5-6 feet below the power lines on the poles.

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Posted by farrellaa on Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:20 AM

I think that (1" prototype) would be about .011" diameter in HO scale.

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Posted by Don Z on Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:48 AM

farrellaa

I think that (1" prototype) would be about .011" diameter in HO scale.

Bob

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Posted by Oakhurst Railroad Engineer on Sunday, August 22, 2010 11:07 AM

tomikawaTT
Whatever you use, remember to let it hang in gentle catenary curves. 

I agree, but it is very difficult to get the parabolic curves of drooping wire to work.  I used the EZ line and it works, is durable, and looks good.  However, I found it impossible to get three wires to droop realistically and consistently.  If one wire droops more than the others it looks lousy.  It is easy if you do the wires straight and tight. 

In real power wires, it is the weight of the cable that makes it droop in the way we see.  For our models, the line weight is trivial.  We are fighting physics.  Does anyone have a good way to get the EZ line to droop as we want it to?

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Posted by Prowler7 on Sunday, August 22, 2010 11:56 AM

 You also have to keep in mind the era in which you are modeling. If you are modeling pre-1990s, the cable on telephone poles tended to be thicker than it is currently. If you REALLY want to be proto-typical, put heavy gauge wire and run it with woven metal strand next to it to help hold it in the air on longer runs.

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