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Posted by jwhitten on Monday, July 19, 2010 9:20 AM

cudaken

  Thank you for the detailed answer John. Sounds like I won't be after the sitting Big Boys at my LHS. Hope you get the bugs worked out and enjoy it as much as I do my Y6 b.

  Far as motors, ask Darth Santa Fe, he seems to have a handle on the motor topic.

 Thank you for your time, Ken

 

 

Yeah, but I got it for about $40 bucks off ebay. I wouldn't pay much more for it.

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, July 19, 2010 6:33 AM

  Thank you for the detailed answer John. Sounds like I won't be after the sitting Big Boys at my LHS. Hope you get the bugs worked out and enjoy it as much as I do my Y6 b.

  Far as motors, ask Darth Santa Fe, he seems to have a handle on the motor topic.

 Thank you for your time, Ken

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Posted by jwhitten on Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:24 PM

cudaken

  John, good job on the old Rivrarossi. Was it worth the effort? When I got started in this hobby I was looking for a affordable Big Boy and my LHS had some new in the box. ( 6 years later he still does) The owner said not to buy one, they where junk. Just wonder what you think about Rivraossi.

                Ken 

 

 

I dunno. I think I'm mixed about it. This was my first dcc/sound decoder install into a Rivarossi. It was kind of a pain. The next one though won't be so bad, I'll know what not to do. One of this biggest challenges was figuring out how it was wired-- it seemed obvious, but then in the end it turned out not to be. It was only a little tip I saw somewhere on the web that said you need to cut a strap from the motor's brush to the frame. And then later, the a-ha moment hit me, you need to connect one side of the decoder (on the track in [-] lead) to the frame, and that was the last bit to making it work. I used the Soundtraxx DSD-something or other, the one with the articulated pattern. Being the first one and the non-obvious pickup, I ended up doing a lot more disassembly / reassembly than I would have preferred. I may have to do some repair / realignment work on one of the valve gear-- but either it came like that or else I fat-fingered it somewhere-- that shouldn't have happened. I think I got it straightened back out though (fingers crossed) and I'm hopeful some plain running for awhile will smooth it back out.

All told, the first one was a pain. The next ones, if any, won't be anywhere near so bad. The thing I really want to do with this one though is wire the tender trucks for power pickup. I think that will help smooth out its operation. I also put extra weight into the tender which helps it track much better too. I pulled out the original light bulb in the loco and replaced it with a grain of wheat bulb-- probably should have used an LED, would have if I'd had one sitting around. I also added a bulb to the tender-- it doesn't come with one out of the box. Both mods were also easy, though I'll probably switch it for LED's eventually.

The biggest issues, aside from figuring out power, were how to run the wires. I should have used a connector between the loco and tender, I didn't. I just hard-wired them with an extra length of wire, which is tucked into the tender. I used a bit of black shrink-wrap, cut alternately halfway across from the left and then the right, etc. to make a flexible hose to hide the wires. I drilled out the location on the tender where the coal autofeeder is-- it was almost the exact correct diameter, and fed the wires and shrink-wrap "hose" through that. So it looks like the autofeeder.

The one thing I would like to do, if I keep operating the loco, is to figure out where/how to repower it (the motor) and where/how to re-driver it. The drivers are pizza-cutters. Even the tender wheels were pizza-cutters. I tried to switch out the tender wheels but the metal wheels I have wouldn't fit right for some reason. So I'm leaving that for another day.

 

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:48 PM

  John, good job on the old Rivrarossi. Was it worth the effort? When I got started in this hobby I was looking for a affordable Big Boy and my LHS had some new in the box. ( 6 years later he still does) The owner said not to buy one, they where junk. Just wonder what you think about Rivraossi.

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Posted by jwhitten on Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:18 PM

 My first entries in this thread...

Been working on installing dcc and sound into an old Rivarossi Y6B 2-8-8-2. My kid and I were having fun running it this morning and we took a video to share:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ODwmxQIT_Y

While we were taking video of stuff, we also did one of our BLI Paragon2 NW2 Switcher:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhYdFNZdWT8

 

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Posted by BRVRR on Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:48 PM

Good looking stuff again this week guys. Keep them coming.

Not much doing on the BRVRR this past couple of weeks. A trip to Seattle slowed things down even more than summertime.

Here are a couple of photos I took today:

NYC Hudson #5335 rounds the bend in front of the General Industries building on the East end of the BRVRR layout.

NYC Mike #9519 crosses the truck access road behind the Farmers Union grain elevator at the West end of the layout.

Keep the photos and ideas coming guys. You are always inspiring.

Remember its your railroad

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:37 AM

 

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Posted by tomkat-13 on Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:40 AM

Santa Fe all the way!

Tomkat, Hawk Point is not too far from where I live!!  When I used to work/live in Jacksonville,ILL, I used to go thru Hawk Point when I went back home.

Hawk Point Missori is about 2 1/2 hrs Southwest of Jacksonville Illinois.

I model a freelance bridge RR The Missouri & Arkansas Railway used by the CB&Q & MKT. The location is in Eastern Missouri. The line starts out at Old Monroe Mo on the Cuivre River at MO. State Highway 79, then goes west to Hawk Point Mo. From Hawk Point the line swings south along MO. State Highway 47 where it crosses the old Wabash / Norfolk & Western RR line near Warrenton Mo. The line continues south thru Missouri Wine Country to connect with MKT near Marthasville Mo. near State Highway 94. Since this is "My" railroad most places will have the "flavor" of this area but may not be perfect to the prototype.  Time is pre Burlington Northern (1970). The location & time frame gives me a lot of room of the type of motive power I can use plus pre-merger freight cars from so many different Railroads from all over the country. As with many railroads built in the 1800’s they never reached all the way as planned. So they never made it all the way to Arkansas.  #1 This will be a point to point RR built on Hollow-core doors (about $24 ea) along two walls, so it will be in sections. #2 It's going to be less track, no yard, no switch machines, open staging, & simple engine service area.#3 Just a few small towns with one or two sidings.#4 More open scenery between towns.#5 Interchange with RR on each end.

 

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:40 AM

Tomkat, Hawk Point is not too far from where I live!!  When I used to work/live in Jacksonville,ILL, I used to go thru Hawk Point when I went back home.

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Posted by Wikious on Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:12 PM

 I finally got off my chair and started doing more work on my next diorama. Next time I should remember to paint the styrofoam before I lay down track and road.


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Posted by tomkat-13 on Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:34 PM

Track repair at Hawk Point Elevator.

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Posted by superbe on Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:08 PM

jacon12
I think I'm going to eliminate business 1 altogether. That'll solve that problem.. :)

Jarrell,

Having seen your previous modeling efforts and the detailed pit and the rock face already done I anxiously wait to see what you do to complete the scene. 

Happy Railroading

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 8:49 PM

G Paine

Motley
Yes I did use the alcohol with an eye dropper, then used the WS scenic glue with an eye dropper, and it still floats the ballast.

Hi Motley, sorry for the late My 2 cents, but the wife and I have been busy hosting a family reunion today; I did not get to WPF until this evening

Adding the alcohol with an eye dropper will float WS ballast and ground foam - too much volume of liquid. Get a good misting bottle and spray a fine mist of whatever wetting agent you like into the ballast. Once it gets damp, you can increase the volume and get closer to give it a good wetting. The key with both ballast and ground foam is start lightly; sometimes I have to spray up in the air and let the mist gently rain down on fine ground foam so that it will not wash away.

G Paine

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Yes I did use the alcohol with an eye dropper, then used the WS scenic glue with an eye dropper, and it still floats the ballast.

Hi Motley, sorry for the late My 2 cents, but the wife and I have been busy hosting a family reunion today; I did not get to WPF until this evening

Adding the alcohol with an eye dropper will float WS ballast and ground foam - too much volume of liquid. Get a good misting bottle and spray a fine mist of whatever wetting agent you like into the ballast. Once it gets damp, you can increase the volume and get closer to give it a good wetting. The key with both ballast and ground foam is start lightly; sometimes I have to spray up in the air and let the mist gently rain down on fine ground foam so that it will not wash away.

As he said.  When using alcohol mix  it 50/50 with water and spray it on.  The scenic cement is still done with eye dropper but the wetting is sprayed.  Makes all the difference in the world.  The glue will absorb right in.

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Posted by jacon12 on Saturday, July 17, 2010 8:21 PM
Thanks for the suggestion Bob, I think I'm going to eliminate business 1 altogether. That'll solve that problem.. :) Oh, and I forgot to mention the wall has to be cut down to proper height. Jarrell
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jacon12
I'm trying to decide where to put what

 

Jarrell,

You asked so here goes...

Two thoughts....

First, I find the stone wall to be objectionable mainly due to it's height and it doesn't look like it has a purpose.

Secondly it looks like you have something in mind as you have created a very nice pit for hoppers to dump "whatever'. Perhaps one industry with the track in the center. Also maybe a smaller building were business #1 is located.

Happy Railroading

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Posted by zgardner18 on Saturday, July 17, 2010 8:08 PM

Driline
zgardner18

I don't have any good cropping tools on my computer so I just used Microsoft Paint to add scenery on the bottom to cover my bench work.

Another great looking shot. Who is the manufacturer of the blue and red trucks?

The Green truck is a Ford F150 from Atlas and the Red truck is a Ford F250 from Herpa (I think).  Everyone in Montana has a truck for the most part so that is the look that I am trying to go for here.  Those are my 3 SD45's.  The first two are P2K models that I custom painted and the last one is an Athearn RTR that I just patched.  All three are modeled after actual MRL units that at the time I was living there were in these colors. All still need a bit of weathering though.

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Posted by G Paine on Saturday, July 17, 2010 8:03 PM

Motley
Yes I did use the alcohol with an eye dropper, then used the WS scenic glue with an eye dropper, and it still floats the ballast.

Hi Motley, sorry for the late My 2 cents, but the wife and I have been busy hosting a family reunion today; I did not get to WPF until this evening

Adding the alcohol with an eye dropper will float WS ballast and ground foam - too much volume of liquid. Get a good misting bottle and spray a fine mist of whatever wetting agent you like into the ballast. Once it gets damp, you can increase the volume and get closer to give it a good wetting. The key with both ballast and ground foam is start lightly; sometimes I have to spray up in the air and let the mist gently rain down on fine ground foam so that it will not wash away.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:48 PM

 Been moving some structures around on the layout. Here's a run-through shop on the Knutzville spur before it splits to a dead end and the engine house.



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Posted by jamnest on Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:43 PM

I have two model railroad workbenches 500 miles apart.  One is at my home in a 1800 Sq ft basement which I am building a HO scale layout.  Last job change we decided to keep the home.  I plan to retire in about ten years.

Home workbench 

Apartment workbench

I have been spending the time in the apartment installing DCC decoders in my locomotive fleet.  I have a two track 6 foot long test track and use a DB150 as a command station to test locomotives.  I use a PR3 and Decoder Pro to program locomotives.  I just completed adding a Digitrax SFX04 sound only decoder to a Digitrax DH165AO.  It works great.  I had to move the headlights so I am waiting for the parts to dry.  I used latex caulk to hold the LED headlights in place so they can be removed if needed.

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Posted by superbe on Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:00 PM

jacon12
I'm trying to decide where to put what

 

Jarrell,

You asked so here goes...

Two thoughts....

First, I find the stone wall to be objectionable mainly due to it's height and it doesn't look like it has a purpose.

Secondly it looks like you have something in mind as you have created a very nice pit for hoppers to dump "whatever'. Perhaps one industry with the track in the center. Also maybe a smaller building were business #1 is located.

Happy Railroading

Bob

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, July 17, 2010 3:53 PM

jacon12
A spot that I'm trying to decide where to put what. We've all been there, haven't we.  I think business 1 is going to have to go away, it's getting a little too crowded..  Jarrell

How true. Many times for me. It's happening right now for one of my projects. You're doing well with that scene so far, Jarrell 

 

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Posted by jacon12 on Saturday, July 17, 2010 3:39 PM
A spot that I'm trying to decide where to put what. We've all been there, haven't we. I think business 1 is going to have to go away, it's getting a little too crowded.. Jarrell
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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:41 PM

Motley

Very nice shots Ken!!! The lighting looks fine to me....

Love those Monon F3's.

 

 Far as the Monon F'3's, there is still hope for you! Big Smile Just added another B unit and the speed matching is driving me a little nuts.

 I will add Micheal your picture look pretty darn good as well.

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:30 PM

Nice photos all!

Looks like they have fired up old Mogul #38.  Probably for helper duty as there is a heavy train to get up and over Bare Mountain this evening.

Yep!  here she comes out of the roundhouse:

As evening falls, the crew has arrived to get Connie #217 ready to take the head end:

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Posted by Driline on Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:06 PM
zgardner18

I don't have any good cropping tools on my computer so I just used Microsoft Paint to add scenery on the bottom to cover my bench work.

Another great looking shot. Who is the manufacturer of the blue and red trucks?
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Posted by zgardner18 on Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:24 AM

I don't have any good cropping tools on my computer so I just used Microsoft Paint to add scenery on the bottom to cover my bench work.

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Posted by tattooguy67 on Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:16 AM

Recently some have been asking for work in progress shots and if you look in the dictionary under works in progress there is a pic of my layout! I have learned some things doing this one that I will not soon forget! things like you should really have a master plan and not make it up as you go along, also you should really find the bridges you like and make the land fit them, not the other way around! with that in mind here are some shots.

I have managed to get 2 of the 3 tracks ballested, also have some roads marked out, and the last shot shows the lake in progress, so there is that, thanks for reading and looking.

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Posted by mountaingoatgreg on Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:37 AM

Hamltblue,

Thanks for your concern on the trackwork but I believe this is just the transition from Micro Engineering rail to the rail in the Walthers tunrout. I think I am going to have to make some tranisiton rail joiners in HO scaleThumbs Up

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Posted by stebbycentral on Saturday, July 17, 2010 8:47 AM

 I think I can, I think I can, I think I can,...

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Saturday, July 17, 2010 8:13 AM

mountaingoatgreg

I have made a little progress in my shelf layout...

 I was able to get all the turnouts working with Tortoise switch machines and DPDT switches in place on the edge of the layout. All the track is in and has been tested in DCC mode without any problems. Next I will tackle the small staging area and test the operations.

 Here is a photo of the completed track and some trains staged in action.

 Here are a couple of photos of some structures I am mocking up. I am still not sure where everything will go but I am getting some good ideas from the stand ins.

 

 

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Hi Greg,

In the lower left corner by the turnout there looks like an alignment issue.  The track connecting to the turnout looks like the rails are higher.  If so it will probable give you some headaches.

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