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Amtrak Superliner Sightseer Lounge Cars

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Amtrak Superliner Sightseer Lounge Cars
Posted by MRH044 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 7:57 PM

I am working on building Amtrak's Coast Starlight that runs from Los Angeles to Seattle. Bolow are some pictures of what I have done to improve Walthers new plated superliners. 

 

Walthers Superliner II Amtrak Sightseer Lounge Phase IVb #932-16122

 

The first thing I did to this car was to pull out the interior. After I painted the interior and added some passengers, I painted the wheels and couplers rusty brown. I also painted the silver strip along the edge of the diaphragm. I plan to add some road grime to the cars, but as of now they are still factory clean. Finally, number decals were added.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by MRH044 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 7:58 PM

Now for the Superliner I Lounge:

Walthers Superliner I Amtrak Sightseer Lounge Phase IVb #932-16194

NOTE: The lounge itself is prototypical; the added decals are not. The Coast Starlight has a unique car in the midst of the train named the Pacific Parlour. In real life, it is not a superliner but rather an ex-Santa Fe high level. I have had Microscale’s decal set for such a long time that I finally said I would just apply them to a superliner. Please forgive the inaccuracy.

The car has painted interior, wheels, couplers, and diaphragm just like the first car. Walthers did a great job on the window placement difference between superliner I and II cars. 

So, with that, Pacific Parlour 39973:

  Includes piano on first floor.      

 

 

If you found this thread helpful, please let me know. I have worked on each of Walthers superliner cars except for the Superliner I diner. I will be more than happy to post pictures of the rest of the train.  Michael

 

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Posted by wholeman on Saturday, May 1, 2010 8:09 PM

 Looks great.  I have the Superliner II Lounge, Diner, Sleeper, and Transition Sleeper.  I also have the Superliner I Coach (2), Sleeper, and Coach Baggage.  I painted my interiors different colors than yours, but I am happy with the way they turned out.  I also like what you did with the Superliner I lounge.  Looks great.  Hopefully someone will produce one in HO.

EDIT:  Before you had technical difficulties, the pics were awesome.

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Posted by TomDiehl on Saturday, May 1, 2010 8:22 PM

Yes, that's a big problem with any model brand of the Sightseer Lounge cars, those big honkin' windows make it really obvious that you're running the empty shell of a car. I have a couple Con-Cor brand that I scratchbuilt interiors for the upper level. Vastly improved the appearance of them, even though they're the only ones with interior detail. The smaller, darker windows in the other Superliners hide the fact they have no interior, but since the obvious one has an interior, everybody assumes the rest do as well.

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Posted by MRH044 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 8:32 PM

EDIT:  Wheww....I decided that I wanted the thread to be nicely laid out so I drafted it up in MS Word. When I copied and pasted it to the forum, needless to say the forum didn't like it. Sorry guys for some lines having a lot of space and others no space. I will definitely not do that again!

At least it is readable again. Let me know if you have any questions.  Michael

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:01 PM

Michael,

Always enjoyable seeing a passenger train modeler sharing info on a project.

Great work!  What a difference this type of detailing makes on streamlined varnish.  A+ for painting those white headrest cloths on the top of the seatbacks.   Adding an interior and passengers brings these cars up to a much greater level of dimensional realism.  ChefThumbs Up

Questions:

1.  What shade of blue did you use? Looks similar to Santa Fe blue.

2. Which brand(s) of passengers are you using? I plan on adding some passengers to my Rivorossi and Walthers cars in the future and am looking for suggestions.

3. Will your interiors be lighted?  The flouresent interior kits from Miniatronics would go nicely with your cars:  http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/475-100ICL01  

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Posted by wholeman on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:32 PM

 Michael,

You are giving more inspiration/work to improve my Superliners even more.  Good job on painting the suspension parts silver on the Superliner IIs.  I guess I will need to do that to mine.  

How did you paint your coupler without fowling up the mechanism?  I assume they are Kadees.

 Antonio,

I believe those figures are made from Preiser.  I have some like that in my cars and they look familiar.  I always buy the unpainted figures and paint them the way I want them.

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Posted by Flashwave on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:42 PM

MRH044

NOTE: The lounge itself is prototypical; the added decals are not. The Coast Starlight has a unique car in the midst of the train named the Pacific Parlour. In real life, it is not a superliner but rather an ex-Santa Fe high level. I have had Microscale’s decal set for such a long time that I finally said I would just apply them to a superliner. Please forgive the inaccuracy.

The car has painted interior, wheels, couplers, and diaphragm just like the first car. Walthers did a great job on the window placement difference between superliner I and II cars. 

So, with that, Pacific Parlour 39973:

But you know what, it sure looks good, kinda like something Amtrak would do in a pinch hit if the Parlours went down.

-Morgan

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Posted by MRH044 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 11:34 AM

AntonioFP45

The painted interiors sure made these cars look better. Thanks for noticing the headrests!

1. I am a first year in college so I work on these cars to relax.  I live in the dorms and therefore don't use an airbrush.  What I do use is cheap paint form Michael's. The blue is 'denim' and below is a picture of some other colors I used on the cars. Each bottle cost me $0.33.

2. Preiser

3. I don't have any plans for lights right now but I will keep those in mind.

wholeman

The suspension parts were still wet while I took the pictures! Very glad you noticed!! For the couplers, I just paint the outside of the kadee brown being careful to not get paint in the mechanism.

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Posted by wholeman on Sunday, May 2, 2010 2:10 PM

 Thank you for telling me how you painted the couplers.  When I painted the interiors of my cars, I used PollyScale which about $3.50-$5 a bottle.  I am glad you are able to also enjoy college and still do MR.  I am a senior in college and am finally getting more into the hobby since I will be done with finals this week.

Will

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Posted by MRH044 on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 8:22 PM

Yeah, it is how I unwind. Spray paint would have been more efficient that is for sure.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 7:05 PM

MRH044,

Great use of those paint products.  Good example showing that it's not always necessary to buy "brand name" model railroad specific paints for every project.    

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Posted by MRH044 on Friday, May 7, 2010 10:28 AM

AntonioFP45

MRH044,

Great use of those paint products.  Good example showing that it's not always necessary to buy "brand name" model railroad specific paints for every project.    

Thank you! They are also a lot easier to work with in my room :)

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